It also has a better all around deer hunting cartridge. The 7.62 X 39 isn't too bad for deer or pigs, better than the 5.56 X 45 NATO.AK-47 is more sturdy, reliable, and requires much less maintenance. It also has fewer moving parts and uses simpler gas-piston instead of gas-impingement.
AR-15 would be good for their second weapon, but if we're going to give weapons to toddlers we should start with AK-47s.
No. The .308 is closely akin to the 7.62 X 51 NATO, the AK round is the 7.62 X 39 . They are not interchangeable! The 7.62 X 39 is not nearly as powerful, shoots a lighter bullet at a lower velocity.is hunting with an AK any different than hunting with a bolt action 308?
no. 1 - the rounds are similar (and considered safe/interchangeable). 2- it's not like someone's going to be lighting up a deer.
i have no idea why people try and make the statement that hunting with any semi-auto rifle is somehow worse than a bolt-action one.
is hunting with an AK any different than hunting with a bolt action 308?
no. 1 - the rounds are similar (and considered safe/interchangeable). 2- it's not like someone's going to be lighting up a deer.
i have no idea why people try and make the statement that hunting with any semi-auto rifle is somehow worse than a bolt-action one.
I think there needs to be more data on the issue before we can draw conclusions on the age where hunting is associated with harm. That being said, who exactly out there needs this law? Who is so impatient that they can't wait till 10 years old before letting their kids learn to shoot?
And doesn't the wisconsin legislature have more important thing to be working on?
AKs suck. They are durable as a rock but they aren't suited for hunting. You need something akin to a sniper setup, which the .308 was a fave. AK's are the go to in any anti-gun argument. The NRA can raise specious concerns without doubt but then the opposition is sometimes FOS, like Hillary and "can you imagine if the shooter had a SILENCER!!!!!!" sort of thing. Well there's two things I think about that. I can understand people being freaked out about things they don't understand and that all things do not need to be had by the public. I'm OK with a silencer ban, but anyone who knows can tell you that no silencer would withstand more than a moment of continual or burst fire, if the latter is done rapidly. A bump stock would have cooked it and likely the rifle barrel. Things would have melted before he the LV shooter finished.
But like Chuck Schumer said about Trump, it's not too soon to use a tragedy. I'd personally love to see a bump stock ban but with each side being untrustworthy and dotards going on about equivalencies between hunting in Wisconsin and AKs, neither side will trust the other.
That's too bad. There are few honest people in authority discussing the subject with knowledge and rationality. Pretty much like anything else.
Can a 9 year old really understand the consequences of improper gun use? Do you allow your daughter to drive as well?A gun isn’t a toy and learning how to hunt isn’t "playing".
Can a 9 year old really understand the consequences of improper gun use? Do you allow your daughter to drive as well?
Can a 9 year old really understand the consequences of improper gun use? Do you allow your daughter to drive as well?
Kinda impressed. This is actually how everyone in the world hunts except in the US, we pick out our weapon of choice (usually a .308 but .30-06, 7.62x51 (which is great for the cheap ammo) or something like the 9X81) which is a bolt action rifle, usually one of three makes that are known for high quality and they only produce bolt action rifles. You couple that with a scope that is usually more expensive than the rifle itself, get communication devices to talk to your team and you build structures where you know that if you miss your bullet is going into the ground.
But apparently in the US silencers and bump stocks are absolutely needed on their poofta little M4 replicas and they don't really have to care about where the bullet goes if they miss.
I'm sorry but "hunting" isn't something that Americans do well at all and I sure as HELL would never be part of a team in the US, there is a greater chance of being shot by a fellow hunter than actually landing your sights on a big buck.
Kinda impressed. This is actually how everyone in the world hunts except in the US, we pick out our weapon of choice (usually a .308 but .30-06, 7.62x51 (which is great for the cheap ammo) or something like the 9X81) which is a bolt action rifle, usually one of three makes that are known for high quality and they only produce bolt action rifles. You couple that with a scope that is usually more expensive than the rifle itself, get communication devices to talk to your team and you build structures where you know that if you miss your bullet is going into the ground.
But apparently in the US silencers and bump stocks are absolutely needed on their poofta little M4 replicas and they don't really have to care about where the bullet goes if they miss.
I'm sorry but "hunting" isn't something that Americans do well at all and I sure as HELL would never be part of a team in the US, there is a greater chance of being shot by a fellow hunter than actually landing your sights on a big buck.
Someone who makes the mistakes you do regarding gun terminology truly has no business talking down to anyone about hunting or guns. Funny to hear someone from the UK, where suppressors abound, call Americans poofters because we like our hearing too. Toss off you nunce!
Hunting is one of the things that Americans do exceptionally well. We spend a lot of time and money on it, and it even supports entire communities abroad via hunt licensing and patronage. It's why people in Europe and Canada piss themselves when a Yankee decides to use a spear on a bear instead of a gun.
Silly Americans! Who do you think you are?! Samburu? Masai?
It also has a better all around deer hunting cartridge. The 7.62 X 39 isn't too bad for deer or pigs, better than the 5.56 X 45 NATO.
No. The .308 is closely akin to the 7.62 X 51 NATO, the AK round is the 7.62 X 39 . They are not interchangeable! The 7.62 X 39 is not nearly as powerful, shoots a lighter bullet at a lower velocity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62×51mm_NATO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62×39mm
True, but i've seen some range mistakes happen that weren't prettyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester
"Although very similar to the military 7.62×51mm NATO specifications, the .308 cartridge is not identical...Their interchange is, however, considered safe by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI).[7]"
my bad on the AK which is 7.62x39...but point being, the cartridges are no so terribly different (we're not talking a 50 BMG vs a 22LR)
Silencer would be better, don’t want to hurt his hearing.Pampers should start a bumpstocks for toddlers campaign there and stuff one into a lucky package that some young mother can win.
So... You actually don't know the difference between a standard .308 and a 7.62x51 NATO round and you are calling me out on that?
Silencer would be better, don’t want to hurt his hearing.
We have to wrap it up in a nice blanket so it would have to be the Juvenile Hearing Conservation Program of FY2018.Silencer would be better, don’t want to hurt his hearing.
Come on we're being sarcastic and having some fun. I love guns myself, however, we're just poking fun at a ludicrous maneuver.First, it's a suppressor. Second, hearing damage is cumulative. Third, don't knock it till you try it.
Just having some fun, I use hearing protection sometimes in my work, because my ears earn me my living.First, it's a suppressor. Second, hearing damage is cumulative. Third, don't knock it till you try it.
Bumpstock Joe?
I'm not sure that all the parents' fear is irrational. When I was a boy in the sixties, I walked the 1.5 mi. to school starting in kindergarten (in my fairly affluent suburb). Once, I was requested to get into a strangers car with the promise of candy. I didn't, but was still required to walk. The evil of humanity is everywhere there are humans. People can be great, but also not.Enter the era of the helicopter parent who themselves have irrational fears of everything so their kids have to grow up afraid of everything too.
I didn't say they were designed to harm humans. Also I said in an earlier post "harm to humans and animals."A hunting rifle isn’t designed to cause harm to humans. Can it? Sure.
I didn't say they were designed to harm humans. Also I said in an earlier post "harm to humans and animals."