Nope, you are ignorant of the rules. It was completely legal.
the rules state that in fiscal issues decisions must be made with a full quorum. thats why the stripped the fiscal issues out of it and voted. which goes back to my first point. they admitted this is union busting and NOTHING else.
The reason the Republicans didn't do this earlier is that it's an inherently risky move. Sure they can pass the legislation but if the tide of public opinion were to turn even slightly against them the Republicans in the legislature facing recalls could be in serious jeopardy and tip the senate to the Democrats.
You must not be reading my posts, you didn't read up on the central limit theorem (as your complaints are directly addressed by it), and you appear to have no knowledge of statistics. Do you know what it means when the poll says +/- 4% at the 95% confidence level? Do you know what confidence level a 13 point gap corresponds to?
You absolutely don't need to believe that people aren't individuals to believe that polls are accurate, true representations of public opinion. Let me give you some tips for discrediting polls, you're going to want to look at the sample and declare it biased, or you're going to want to attack question ordering, things like that. Attacking the mathematical basis for scientific polling is a bad idea, because it is mathematically proven. ie: it's not open for debate.
You're going to strike out when attacking this poll in those other ways too, but it might be helpful in the future if you see other inconvenient truths that you're trying to ignore.
You seem to forget the underlying problems with a lot of polling. It's all predicated on the idea that you can get a really representative random sample of the population to be studied. That's the trick. I tend to believe the major polling companies because they have a track record of being at least somewhat competent, so I don't dispute the validity of this polling data.
I do have an issue with polling likely voters versus everyone in general. It might be more valid in terms of using it to predict elections and such, it doesn't say anything about the sentiment of the population as a whole. Likely voters might be 100% for something, but if they only comprise 40% of the total population, there's the possibility that the majority of people in general are against something.
I don't think that's the case in WI though, the unions have done a good job selling their absurd notions and the right to fleece people. Now it's up to the GOP to bring logic back into the picture.
Lol. Fail.
HAAllow me to introduce you to the central limit theorem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_limit_theorem
Like I said, if you don't consider this valid, you don't agree with math. (probably shouldn't be using your devil powered computer then either, it uses a lot of math)
the reason they didnt do this earlier is because it is against the law. they didnt even show the people what they were voting on. they completely took a shit all over democracy. this will be overturned in court.
have anything to add or you just going to keep posting like an idiot?
the reason they didnt do this earlier is because it is against the law. they didnt even show the people what they were voting on. they completely took a shit all over democracy. this will be overturned in court.
In all contract talks with unions, both sides commit to "bargaining in good faith". Both sides.
In this particular case, "The State", ie -"the people" bargained in good faith, as well as the public unions. If both bargained "in good faith", how is that construed as "fleecing the people"?
The people was/are represented by the state. The state bargained with the unions. If you feel the people were fleeced, you need to blame the state and not the unions for not bargaining what you thought was a good deal.
I don't follow the logic where the union bargaining committee/membership is at fault for doing their job, and the sate is the victim simply because they did not do theirs.
Both bargained "in good faith". Each side had a chance to represent each side's interests at the bargaining table. Each side then agreed - repeat - EACH SIDE then agreed to the terms worked out in the negotiations. How is that not fair? How is it that both sides agreed to terms yet somehow the unions fleeced the state - ie "the people"?
Simply the fact that they tend to be accurate is of no consequence, because there is no guarantee they will be for any given poll.
Prove to me, then, oh proveyer of things mathematically proven, that these polls are correct 100% of the time.
What about Obamacare? You know the bill Pelosi admitted nobody knew what was in it and it needed to be passed before we can figure it out?
Prove to me, then, oh proveyer of things mathematically proven, that these polls are correct 100% of the time. Until then, I'm done wasting my time with you.
Excellent!
Now, how soon can we go back to hiring children and making them work for 14 hours a day, 6 days a week; all for $1 a day?
A highly connected source in Wisconsin politics tells Fox Nation all hell is breaking loose at the state capitol.
Republican leadership was considering calling in SWAT teams or the National Guard. Plans have been set. We have almost completely lost control of the capitol building. Protesters now control the first and second floors and are amassing outside the governors office. The third and fourth floors are under control but were not sure what side our security is on. Law enforcement is leaking evacuation plans to the protesters. An official tried to evacuate through a secret underground tunnel and was turned back by protesters. No one is safe. Protesters have broken down doors, broken windows, Democrats are helping them into the building and theyre building momentum. Theyre robo-calling like crazy, trying to pack as many people into the capitol so the Assembly cant vote today. Right now theres no way the Assembly can vote we cant secure the Assembly and we cant protect our legislators. If the protesters fill up the capitol all the way, the governor would have to declare a state of emergency and hold a vote off site.
you are making a fool of yourself...
...in record time too if I might add.
you are making a fool of yourself...
...in record time too if I might add.
it absolutely shocks me how people who work for a living dont want an 8 hour day with honest pay. well, they do, but they are told they dont and they believe it. the blind faith is just horrific.
I am curious why nobody brings up the Dem fleeing the state having their jobs in jeopardy. The fled the state and didnt even fight the good fight allowing this to happen.
How do you figure that?
A lot of people make a good living and do without being in a union.