With Amazon's new autorip of all your purchased CDs

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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All future presents I buy are going to be CDs :whiste:

Good call!

Now you just gotta find people who want the exact album you want.

Or a great white elephant gift for those albums you expect few would ever like. :biggrin:
 

phucheneh

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Jun 30, 2012
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Or there are these 'torrent' things you could use.

Seriously, does it really feel morally superior to copy your friend's music as opposed to just downloading the shit off the internet? Or are you afraid Lars Ulrich is going to come put his penis in your butt?
 

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
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Amazon just became even more awesome. I still like buying physical copies of music, but now I won't even have to open the packaging until I want lossless.
 

Bateluer

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Jun 23, 2001
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Good for Amazon. Surprised the RIAA hasn't filed a suit against them over this yet.
 

nageov3t

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Feb 18, 2004
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Or there are these 'torrent' things you could use.

Seriously, does it really feel morally superior to copy your friend's music as opposed to just downloading the shit off the internet? Or are you afraid Lars Ulrich is going to come put his penis in your butt?
#1 -- it's nice to support the artist if you really enjoy their music
#2 -- not all music is available via torrent/usenet/whatever, especially if it's not mainstream/Top 40/death metal
 

Golgatha

Lifer
Jul 18, 2003
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Wish they would enable this feature with movies. I'd even settle for Amazon Prime access to the movie instead of being able to download the files.
 

phucheneh

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#1 -- it's nice to support the artist if you really enjoy their music
#2 -- not all music is available via torrent/usenet/whatever, especially if it's not mainstream/Top 40/death metal

While #2 is true to an extent ('not all music is available') you've gotta get pretty damn obscure before you can't find something.

And #1 means I wasn't clear enough...I was referring to the idea of buying a CD for a friend and downloading the MP3's for yourself. You're still 'stealing' the music (big air quotes). The OP just seemed to imply that this was more acceptable than downloading from a different source, when it's the same thing.

Most of my favorite artists are pretty vocal about piracy, anyway...they endorse it. It has been many times that I have heard a band's lead say something to the effect of: 'Thanks for coming to our show; if you liked us, please buy our album; if you can't afford it, download it and share it with a friend.'

Those in the industry who are not heavily promoted generally 'get it' and realize that increasing their fanbase is of the utmost important. Ironically, they also tend to garner respect with such comments, which can lead people who normally pirate music to actually pay for the album.

Especially at a show, where they make more money on it. Although they probably still get a hell of a lot more from a T-shirt or something.

CD's distributed by large record companies and sold retail make the artist a notoriously small amount of money.
 

SamQuint

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Dec 6, 2010
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This is actually pretty cool. I bought some cd's for people for Christmas and was surprised to get an email from Amazon about this. Bang they were there in the cloud and clicked a button and they downloaded to my PC.

Pulled down the app for my Android and bang I can listen to them on my phone.

I will definetely buy my cd's from Amazon from now on.

(and yes I am old fashioned and still buy cd's all the time)
 

Baked

Lifer
Dec 28, 2004
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I had maybe 20 MP3 albums 2 weeks ago, then last week this happened.

Songs 1263
Albums 101
Artists 91

I'm like, fuck yeah! I can stream and/or d/l them to my droid phone too. Too awesome. Kinda wished I bought all my CDs in the past through Amazon. I still have a large collection I bought through traditional means from B&M stores.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Out of curiosity, has anyone not received all of the songs from an album via AutoRip? I bought Paul Van Dyk's The Other Side about four years ago, and they only gave me the first track from it.

I already ripped the CD onto my PC ages ago, so it doesn't really matter much, but I did find it odd that it screwed up. Also, why the hell did they replace the album art with some weird Japanese crap? This is the correct album art.
 

phucheneh

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Why would the RIAA sue? Amazon is paying for this.

They sue over everything. I'm assuming Amazon is not paying to license the songs twice for every album they sell?

There's nothing illegal about it; they're just cutting out the hassle of ripping the CD's yourself. But since it COULD be used for oh-em-gee-piracy, I'm sure they could come up with some kind of argument.
 

ViRGE

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They sue over everything. I'm assuming Amazon is not paying to license the songs twice for every album they sell?
Amazon is already paying the RIAA as part of their locker service, which AutoRip is an extension of. So they aren't strictly paying twice, but they are paying extra.
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Most of my favorite artists are pretty vocal about piracy, anyway...they endorse it. It has been many times that I have heard a band's lead say something to the effect of: 'Thanks for coming to our show; if you liked us, please buy our album; if you can't afford it, download it and share it with a friend.'

Those in the industry who are not heavily promoted generally 'get it' and realize that increasing their fanbase is of the utmost important. Ironically, they also tend to garner respect with such comments, which can lead people who normally pirate music to actually pay for the album.
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I love when companies go nuts over their music showing up in a video on Youtube.
There have been several songs now that I've bought because I heard it on a video online, likely used without explicit permission. Free advertising to an untargeted market? Hell no, we'll spend money on lawyers to stop that kind of crazy shit!
 
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lxskllr

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It's funny when companies go nuts over their music showing up in a video on Youtube.
There have been several songs now that I've bought because I heard it on a video online, likely used without explicit permission. Free advertising to an untargeted market? Hell no, we'll spend money on lawyers to stop that kind of crazy shit!

Record companies are irrelevant, but they don't realize it yet. They're still trying to prop up a monopoly they no longer have. When they're finally in the grave, the world will be a marginally better place.
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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I missed this thread at first, but I preordered an album and saw the "auto-rip" description so had to see if AT ever mentioned it. Great feature that will ensure I get all of my music from Amazon from now on, as I can order the physical copy and already have a downloadable copy to use until it gets to my door. Best of both worlds.
 

notposting

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Jul 22, 2005
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Autorip doesn't necessarily include all songs. None of the CD's that magically upgraded for me were complete.
 

KK

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so let me see if this is possible, someone buys the cd, and they give you the "autorip" thing which i guess is having the mp3 on their site. whats to prevent the person from selling the physical cd since they have the online copy?
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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so let me see if this is possible, someone buys the cd, and they give you the "autorip" thing which i guess is having the mp3 on their site. whats to prevent the person from selling the physical cd since they have the online copy?

Your conscience.
 

nageov3t

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Feb 18, 2004
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so let me see if this is possible, someone buys the cd, and they give you the "autorip" thing which i guess is having the mp3 on their site. whats to prevent the person from selling the physical cd since they have the online copy?
I can't imagine you wouldn't be taking a loss on that transaction.
 

DaveSimmons

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so let me see if this is possible, someone buys the cd, and they give you the "autorip" thing which i guess is having the mp3 on their site. whats to prevent the person from selling the physical cd since they have the online copy?

People who think that way probably just usenet / torrent the music anyway.
 
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