Witness 40: Exposing A Fraud In Ferguson

[cabri]

Everyone that said that they had anything that could be considered to be relevant was provided to the GJ.

Then their story was looked at with respect to the evidence.

When discrepancies arouse, the witness were questioned about such.

Then the GJ decided that given all the information provided and analyzed, that there was no grounds to indite.


Note that ALL people that stated they had information were allowed to present what they claimed to have saw/heard. All were given the 15 minutes of fame in front of the GJ.

Unless those that are butthurt can now show that there was a witness that was not interviewed by the GJ; they are reaching for straws and refusing to look at the whole picture.

Tunnel vision is still making those types look foolish.

 

[z1ggy]

This topic again?? Isn't this horse well beyond dead? Jeez.

 

[drebo]

Lol! Your posts prove you guys have no idea how a grand jury works or the point of an indictment. Fucking priceless!

Anyone saying the grand jury proved wilson was innocent or brown got what he deserved are retarded. An idictment (whether a true bill or no true bill) says nothing about guilt. It's why you fucking morons continue to bring up irrelevant info when it's pointed out that the process of indictment is different for cops.

No, I think it's you who are misguided.

You failed to get the result you wanted from the justice system, so now you're turning to the court of public opinion.

Unfortunately for you, anyone who isn't a bleeding heart white guilt extremist isn't going to pick the side of a gangbanging lowlife criminal over a police officer.

 

[Subyman]

I'd like to believe the grand jury made their decision based on more than 1 witness out of the 40+ witnesses.

 

[OutHouse]

What's wrong? The original ferguson thread not enough for you guys?

I covered this story several days ago


It's all good, justice was served! /s


Except that it wasn't...

Fail as usual.

 

[werepossum]

No, there has to be probable cause to indict. As it's been stated more than a few times having witnesses for and against a person in a grand jury is not unprecedented. The way this grand jury was done did not violate any standards or laws.

No, but it was irregular, and when you're trying to show fairness, irregularity is not your friend.

Everyone that said that they had anything that could be considered to be relevant was provided to the GJ.

Then their story was looked at with respect to the evidence.

When discrepancies arouse, the witness were questioned about such.

Then the GJ decided that given all the information provided and analyzed, that there was no grounds to indite.


Note that ALL people that stated they had information were allowed to present what they claimed to have saw/heard. All were given the 15 minutes of fame in front of the GJ.

Unless those that are butthurt can now show that there was a witness that was not interviewed by the GJ; they are reaching for straws and refusing to look at the whole picture.

Tunnel vision is still making those types look foolish.

That is a good point. I was very unhappy about this witness, but I guess if you're going to put everything in front of the Grand Jury, you can't cull.

This topic again?? Isn't this horse well beyond dead? Jeez.

At this point we're merely flogging the dry ground where we suspect the horse once lay.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Lol! One witnesses lied, no biggie! Nothing to see here, move along.

As if that was the only issue with this idictment.

Multiple witnesses lied. Most who lied were those who claimed 'hands up'.

When did you finally admit that Wilson was justified? It seems you finally admit that, but are still interested in the case.

 

[BoberFett]

LOL @ ivwshame

 

[SMOGZINN]

No, I think it's you who are misguided.

You failed to get the result you wanted from the justice system, so now you're turning to the court of public opinion.

Unfortunately for you, anyone who isn't a bleeding heart white guilt extremist isn't going to pick the side of a gangbanging lowlife criminal over a police officer.

You know, we really do get the system we deserve. :\

 

[Greenman]

Lol! Your posts prove you guys have no idea how a grand jury works or the point of an indictment. Fucking priceless!

Anyone saying the grand jury proved wilson was innocent or brown got what he deserved are retarded. An idictment (whether a true bill or no true bill) says nothing about guilt. It's why you fucking morons continue to bring up irrelevant info when it's pointed out that the process of indictment is different for cops.

And the insults start, very smooth.
I'll tell you what, you have you're little tantrum because we won't agree with you, and I'll not bother with this thread anymore. That way, at least one of us will be happy.

 

[zinfamous]

You misspelled "Hahahaha". As in they are just laughing their asses of at the liberal fraud and race baiting factory in Ferguson.

Incorruptible?

 

[mizzou]

nobidys going to ever be a witness after all this leaked shit get s out to be lynch mobbed

 

[cubby1223]

Fox News asserted Witness 40 proved Wilsons side of the story.

To the best of my knowledge, Fox News was not a member of the grand jury. If you have sources that state otherwise, please do provide.

You know, we really do get the system we deserve. :\

I also don't agree with what he said earlier, but the "system" the activist leaders have shown us as the alternative path for "justice," isn't any better, I would argue worse. People making snap judgements, riling up mobs, attacking anyone who doesn't toe the mob line, digging and publicly exposing any & all info (as is the whole subject of this thread), and to top it all off passive support for robbery & arson.

nobidys going to ever be a witness after all this leaked shit get s out to be lynch mobbed

Certainly not for the next high-profile Al Sharpton cause. Can't say nobody, but it will be a very difficult decision knowing the potential backlash.

 

[Blanky]

If she completely made it up she's in the same bed as the people who made up support for Brown and also couldn't have seen it.

This is why the GJ looked at forensic evidence.

 

[HomerJS]

If she completely made it up she's in the same bed as the people who made up support for Brown and also couldn't have seen it.

This is why the GJ looked at forensic evidence.

and which part of the forensic evidence proved his hands were not up?

 

[cabri]

She described what she saw when Officer Wilson shot 18-year-old Brown. She told them that Brown was on his knees with his hands raised and that Wilson stood over him when he fell to the ground and “just finished him up” by shooting him in the head.

“Witness 41″ claims she filmed the Michael Brown shooting on her cell phone[/quote]

“Witness 41″ didn’t mention anything about taping the shooting that occurred August 9. Everything came out after the grand jury testimony.

The witness added, “But I dropped it in the toilet.”.

told “Witness 41″ that forensic experts could still examine her cell phone for crucial evidence, but she claimed the phone was in the “junkyard.” Alizadeh says the witness told her she was “so mad, she threw it away.”

Witness 41″ told jurors she’d been diagnosed with mental health problems. “Witness 40,” Sandra McElroy, is also mentally ill and says she stands by her testimony, according to an updated report by NY Daily News.

Ferguson “Witness 41″ suffers from “mood swings, three personalities,” and takes pills for her condition.

The above is an example of what you have been hanging onto, completely void of common sense and logic.

 

[Linux23]

smdh. take 2.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I also don't agree with what he said earlier, but the "system" the activist leaders have shown us as the alternative path for "justice," isn't any better, I would argue worse. People making snap judgements, riling up mobs, attacking anyone who doesn't toe the mob line, digging and publicly exposing any & all info (as is the whole subject of this thread), and to top it all off passive support for robbery & arson.

What the activist leaders are showing you is not a system, it's anger. What you are seeing is not a alternative to justice, but the beginings of unrest. This is the leading edge of anarchy, and if we do not pull our heads out of our collective asses and fix some of the things that are wrong we are going to see it get a lot worse.

 

[ivwshane]

What the activist leaders are showing you is not a system, it's anger. What you are seeing is not a alternative to justice, but the beginings of unrest. This is the leading edge of anarchy, and if we do not pull our heads out of our collective asses and fix some of the things that are wrong we are going to see it get a lot worse.

They don't see anything wrong, that is the problem. They aren't able to look at a single event and make a connection to other hundreds, thousands of events that occurred that were similar. They are small minded individuals who are, apparently, unable to see the big picture.

The outcome of this case might have been correct but the process was flawed. If the outcome they expected happened then they couldn't care less about how that outcome was obtained.

I have a feeling these are the same people that support torture even though it's illegal so long as the "terrorists" are stopped.

 

[TechBoyJK]

They don't see anything wrong, that is the problem. They aren't able to look at a single event and make a connection to other hundreds, thousands of events that occurred that were similar. They are small minded individuals who are, apparently, unable to see the big picture.

The outcome of this case might have been correct but the process was flawed. If the outcome they expected happened then they couldn't care less about how that outcome was obtained.

I have a feeling these are the same people that support torture even though it's illegal so long as the "terrorists" are stopped.

I thoroughly enjoyed the mental gymnastics you displayed in linking supporting the truth about Mike Brown and being a supporter of torture. That's f'n grand yo. Applause.

 

[cabri]

They don't see anything wrong, that is the problem. They aren't able to look at a single event and make a connection to other hundreds, thousands of events that occurred that were similar. They are small minded individuals who are, apparently, unable to see the big picture.

The outcome of this case might have been correct but the process was flawed. If the outcome they expected happened then they couldn't care less about how that outcome was obtained.

I have a feeling these are the same people that support torture even though it's illegal so long as the "terrorists" are stopped.

You claim the process was flawed, yet have not been able to show why.


At least now you are starting to admit the outcome was correct :thumbsup:

 

[ivwshane]

You claim the process was flawed, yet have not been able to show why.


At least now you are starting to admit the outcome was correct :thumbsup:

Actually I have, multiple times, you and everyone else just continue to ignore it.

 

[cubby1223]

They don't see anything wrong, that is the problem. They aren't able to look at a single event and make a connection to other hundreds, thousands of events that occurred that were similar. They are small minded individuals who are, apparently, unable to see the big picture.

The outcome of this case might have been correct but the process was flawed. If the outcome they expected happened then they couldn't care less about how that outcome was obtained.

I have a feeling these are the same people that support torture even though it's illegal so long as the "terrorists" are stopped.

Ha! From the group who believes looting, rioting, burning, arson is okay, scapegoating is okay, lying in order to "prove" police are racist bastards, just so "the big picture" is taken care of.

What is "the big picture"? A system that needs a little tweaking? It's not perfect? It's a system run by humans. It will never be perfect. The only way you are achieving perfection is to have multiple sets of recording devices recording everything everywhere, controlled by multiple independent entities.

Or is it the school system? or the lack of jobs?

No, it's white police officers hunting black kids for sport! The non-indictment of Wilson means that black lives have no value in this country! It's open-season to hunt blacks without any repercussions!

The people involved in the riots don't even know what "the big picture" is. And those in leadership positions who do know "the big picture" are not informing the angry what that big picture is, they are stoking the anger by perpetuating the false myths that keep them angry.

You've flip-flopped so often it's not funny.

The big picture is that the system is not perfect? It's controlled by humans. And whether it's controlled by white, black, brown, yellow skinned people, there will always be flaws.

When the Congressional Black Caucus makes the statement that the non-indictment confirms black lives have no value, seriously, what is the big picture? Is that the big picture? It's not my job to coddle you and say they are totally right, when they are wrong.


I don't think many on "your side" understand "the big picture" either. I don't see a whole lot of agreement on specifics. Certainly not from those in position to use and manipulate your anger for their personal gain. Have fun being a puppet rather than actually doing anything productive Go shout racism some more around this forum, see if it actually makes your life any better. My guess is it doesn't

 

[cabri]

You claim the process was flawed, yet have not been able to show why.


At least now you are starting to admit the outcome was correct :thumbsup:

Actually I have, multiple times, you and everyone else just continue to ignore it.

Admitting the process was not flawed - nope, you still keep claiming such.


Providing the evidence. Nope - you have not pointed out any witness that did not have physical evidence that refuted their statements.

 

[ivwshane]

Admitting the process was not flawed - nope, you still keep claiming such.


Providing the evidence. Nope - you have not pointed out any witness that did not have physical evidence that refuted their statements.

Feel free to read up on it:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2394752