who are "both?" I feel sorry for the kid being born to this savage of a woman; but no sympathy for this woman, let alone excuse for "being caught up in adrenalin" enough to beat someone to death for no reason.
normal humans do not act this way.
savage made me lol
who are "both?" I feel sorry for the kid being born to this savage of a woman; but no sympathy for this woman, let alone excuse for "being caught up in adrenalin" enough to beat someone to death for no reason.
normal humans do not act this way.
am I the only one who thinks OCguy is a douchebag after reading this thread?
My guess would be you aren't.....although usually that happens when I am intentionally being douche-y....not so in this thread.
Why should military members be allowed to rip off local businesses?
am I the only one who thinks OCguy is a douchebag after reading this thread? Myabe its clinical?
Who the fuck left the damn door open again?Because OCGuy is well known conservative/nationalist piece of shit.
Someone who you replied upon also posted another example, quite the opposite of what he wrote before and you replied upon. Why you no reply on the second post ?
Because OCGuy is well known conservative/nationalist piece of shit.
"George Zimmerman to change name to Benghazi so Obama and the mainstream media never mention him again."
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An attorney for a possible suspect in the fatal nightclub beating in Santa Ana said it was the 23-year-old victim who threw the first punch in what deteriorated into a violent altercation among patrons waiting to get into a popular lounge.
Defense attorney Michael Molfetta said he is representing one of the four people being sought in the case. He said his client has not been arrested, however.
Molfetta also challenged what has been the story line in the early-morning beating over the weekend outside the Crosby, a trendy nightspot in the city’s bustling downtown.
Authorities said Kim Pham, 23, was beaten and stomped until she was unconscious during the altercation early Saturday. The recent college graduate was taken off life support Tuesday and pronounced dead.
Friends said Pham may have been targeted by a group of patrons because she had unintentionally stepped in front of a camera as the group posed for a photo.
Police have charged Vanessa Tapia Zavala, 25, with murder and announced that they were looking for four other suspects.
“My understanding is that Pham threw the first punch, which landed on the face of Vanesa Zavala,” Molfetta said. “From there the thing escalated very quickly, very violently, and there were a number of people in line with Ms. Pham that attacked the people that Ms. Zavala was with.”
Molfetta said the dispute appears to have started after one of Zavala’s friends inadvertently bumped into Pham.
The criminal defense attorney said he spoke with three “independent witnesses” with no ties to either group who verified this account. Zavala was with two women and two men that night, Molfetta said, adding that the police know who they are but haven’t made any arrests.
On Wednesday, Zavala’s attorney, Kenneth Reed, said his client did not attack Pham and was in fact hurt in the fight outside the Crosby, losing her phone in the process.
The phone was recovered by Santa Ana detectives.
The incident is a tragedy and Pham didn’t deserve to die, Molfetta said, but the public outcry and media attention may have pushed police to rush to judgment.
“Nationally, Ms. Zavala has been vilified and the poor lady that died has basically become a saint,” Molfetta said. “I’m sure she was a lovely woman and had a great future ahead of her, but Ms. Zavala is a good woman too.”
Zavala is being held in lieu of $1-million bail and has a pretrial hearing Jan. 20.
“We jumped the gun in terms of people being arrested,” Molfetta said. “Let’s slow down, get all the evidence gathered before we’re getting kids and charging them with murder; [Zavala] was in her pajamas when she was arrested.”
Pham was a recent Chapman University graduate who has been described by friends and acquaintances as a compassionate and gentle woman who championed causes such as breast cancer awareness and helped raise funds following the devastating tsunami in Japan.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...y-says-20140123,0,3670328.story#ixzz2rGYqhdqc
SANTA ANA – A 23-year-old woman who was punched and kicked outside a downtown nightclub died of complications of blunt force trauma to the head, the Orange County coroner said Thursday.
An autopsy was completed Thursday afternoon for Annie Kim Pham, who was pronounced dead Tuesday after being on life support after the early Saturday beating.
Police also continued to sift through videos and witness statements. One woman remained in jail Thursday in lieu of $1 million bail, charged with murder, and officials sought four more people in connection with the assault.
Santa Ana police Cpl. Anthony Bertagna said detectives were methodically going through evidence to identify two men and two women in their 20s who they believe took part in the fight that began with an argument in the line for The Crosby, a popular restaurant, bar and nightclub.
A lawyer for Vanesa Tapia Zavala, who Wednesday pleaded not guilty to murder, described what happened outside the club as not a beating, but a melee.
“My client is not the person who killed (Pham),” said attorney Ken Reed. “My client is not legally liable for the actions of other people, and that’s why she’s not guilty.”
Zavala, 25, was born and raised in Santa Ana, where she graduated from a local high school, Reed said. She is now an office worker raising her 5-year-old son, he said.
He described her as the type who typically stays home, but Friday night, she went out with her boyfriend, the father of her child. After having a drink at The Crosby, where they met some people they knew, they left to go somewhere less crowded, Reed said.
As the violence outside began, Reed said, Zavala was hit and lost her phone. She and her boyfriend left, and Reed said he believes the lost phone is the only reason she was tied to the crime.
Criminal defense lawyer Michael Molfetta said he has been contacted by a potential defendant and a witness to the incident. He said a witness told him Pham threw the first punch after a group Zavala was with inadvertently bumped Pham as they were leaving.
“When all the facts come out it is going to be very difficult to figure out who should be labeled the defendant or the victim,” he said.
A pretrial hearing for Zavala is scheduled for Jan. 30.
As Pham’s family continues to mourn, a friend organized an online fundraiser to help cover her family’s potential upcoming legal fees. Since Saturday, about $18,000 had been raised via three websites.
Mimi Chau, who organized the fundraiser, said Pham’s family had not planned on raising money, but were met with many requests from friends and strangers who wished to show financial support.
“The family was very touched by everyone’s kindness, and they’ve decided to use this (fund) towards legal fees,” she said in an email. “They will need all the help they can get.”
On Wednesday, Pham’s sister asked friends on Facebook to mark a moment of silence for “our little angel Kim.” In the post, she collected thoughts and memories from family members about their youngest sister and daughter.
“Although she was young, she was wise beyond her years,” her parents wrote. “All those who had the pleasure of knowing her have been touched by her gracefulness, (sincerity), beauty, love and kindness.”
Pham, who studied psychology at Chapman University, had published her writing in an anthology of inspirational stories as well as more recently on website Elite Daily.
“Be bold, go forward, and love like hell,” she wrote.
The sister of Vanesa Tapia Zavala wrote on Instagam my sister didn't kill her she only kick her in the head a couple of times
The sister of Vanesa Tapia Zavala wrote on Instagam my sister didn't kill her she only kick her in the head a couple of times
SANTA ANA, Calif. (KABC) -- A jury convicted two women of voluntary manslaughter and assault in the fatal beating of Kim Pham outside a Santa Ana nightclub.
Vanesa Zavala, 26, Candace Brito, 27, are accused of killing 23-year-old Kim Pham outside The Crosby nightclub on Jan. 18.
The prosecutor alleges that Pham and her friends were taking a photo outside the club when a woman identified as Emelia, an acquaintance of the defendants, bumped into Pham, sparking a verbal fight that led to the fatal beating.
There were numerous witnesses accounts, and some grainy video footage of the beating that was captured on a cell phone. Senior Deputy District Attorney Troy Pino said in court that Pham was waiting in line with her friends and taking a photo with them outside the nightclub when Emilia Calderon bumped into her while she was heading out with her boyfriend, Brito and Zavala, reported City News Service. He said Pham likely threw the first punch, but then Brito and Zavala pulled her by her hair and dragged her to the ground. Pino said multiple witnesses told him that Zavala kicked Pham in the head, and said in the video that “You can see it in her face" that she was gritting her teeth before she administered her final kick that knocked Pham out.