Woman dies after...

[alexjohnson16]

I routinely drink 6-7 12 oz. bottles of water over a 2.5-3.5 hour period each night before I go to bed to work as a natural alarm clock (usually wake up 6-7 hours later having to piss really bad).

Maybe I should stop?

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: GuideBot

Originally posted by: Aharami
i can see them getting sued out of business for this

See, that's what I just don't understand. Nobody FORCED her to do it. She did it of her own free will. Somehow the radio station is supposed to be responsible for her health if she decides to be irresponsible? That's BS.

I am normally against stupid lawsuits, but this actually deserves one. Most people dont realize that drinking too much water can be fatal.. it isnt exactly common sense. The station should have put a little more thought into the competition.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: djheater
The radio station has a responsibility to ensure that the activity is safe. Just as fear factor isn't serving participants fatal foods.

The station should have made sure that what they were doing wasn't a dangerous activity.

There are a lot of people who don't know that water can be toxic in large doses, and while I agree that the whole situation is incredibly, tragically, stupid, her family does have grounds to sue.

While it is certainly a stupid contest, the woman is still at least partially at fault for participating in an activity that is known to be dangerous. Her lack of awareness does not make her free from responsibility.

If were an obviously dangerous thing, like bungee jumping, I would agree with you. However, many, probably most, people don't know that drinking a lot of water is dangerous. The family's lawyers will argue that she entered the contest in good faith and placed her safety in the hands of the organizers, who should have known that it was dangerous and controlled the contest so that it was not.

The question is, how responsible are you for your own health? Again, the station is certainly partially at fault, but the woman still voulentarily participated in an activity which she SHOULD HAVE known was dangerous.

 

[Extelleron]

I should stop drinking so much water. :Q

 

[Marinski]

Its pretty sad people gotta do ****** like this to get a wii. Are they still sold out in stores?

 

[Rangoric]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
The question is, how responsible are you for your own health? Again, the station is certainly partially at fault, but the woman still voulentarily participated in an activity which she SHOULD HAVE known was dangerous.

I have no doubt that very few people know that too much water is fatal.

Its not something that people worry about because its water. The only thing people think is fatal about water is drowning.

 

[Jadow]

did she get the wii?

 

[eits]

jesus...

 

[BMdoobieW]

I agree that many/most people don't know about the dangers of water intoxication. I only know about it because I read the news and a while back there was a story of an army cadet who died during training because he had drank to much water. And in the article it had statistics about how common (not very, IIRC) a death it is.

 

[ForumMaster]

i bet they're going to sue Nintendo for this. what kind of stupid contest is this? drinking over two litters of water a day if you're not doing any exercise is just dangerous.

 

[thesurge]

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Originally posted by: chris7b
A nominee for the Darwin award...

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Rangoric

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
The question is, how responsible are you for your own health? Again, the station is certainly partially at fault, but the woman still voulentarily participated in an activity which she SHOULD HAVE known was dangerous.

I have no doubt that very few people know that too much water is fatal.

Its not something that people worry about because its water. The only thing people think is fatal about water is drowning.

Again though, just because she did not know, does not mean she should not have. I would not consume a pound of sugar in one sitting because I know that anything in excess is harmfull.

 

[BoomerD]

When my son was stationed in Pensacola, he "over-hydrated" and nearly died. Not being used to the high humidity, he continued to drink copious amounts of water. Spent a few days in the base hospital.

Gonna say that while the radio station SHOULD have researched this better, the liability for her death lies with HER. She voluntarily did this. No one forced her to drink 9000 gallons of water and hold her "wii"...

 

[50cent1228]

Originally posted by: SonnyDaze

Originally posted by: Syringer
/goes to bathroom to wii

Fixed.

lol

 

[mjrpes3]

There are variables we don't know about, so it's a bit futile to discuss whether a lawsuit is fully justified or not. But I think there could definitely be enough warrant for this to go to court.

Like a previous poster said, she likely entered this contest in "good faith," and if the station failed to acknowledge the risks of water poisoning and failed to have her sign a waiver, then the station could be at fault. For something like a contest, the "burden" is on the station to do a little research ahead of time on what the risks are, make this clearly know to the participant, and have them sign a release.

A defense that I could see the radio station going with is that water poisoning is "so rare" and so "out of public knowledge" that they did not think it could ever occur, less that it could have crossed their mind in the first place. You would need "experts" to testify whether this is a good defense. Seeing that a couple years ago a CS Chico pledge died of water poisoning, you'd think it would be more in the public eye around here in Northern Cali.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: mjrpes3
There are variables we don't know about, so it's a bit futile to discuss whether a lawsuit is fully justified or not. But I think there could definitely be enough warrant for this to go to court.

Like a previous poster said, she likely entered this contest in "good faith," and if the station failed to acknowledge the risks of water poisoning and failed to have her sign a waiver, then the station could be at fault. For something like a contest, the "burden" is on the station to do a little research ahead of time on what the risks are, make this clearly know to the participant, and have them sign a release.

A defense that I could see the radio station going with is that water poisoning is "so rare" and so "out of public knowledge" that they did not think it could ever occur, less that it could have crossed their mind in the first place. You would need "experts" to testify whether this is a good defense. Seeing that a couple years ago a CS Chico pledge died of water poisoning, you'd think it would be more in the public eye around here in Northern Cali.

So if the woman could not be expected to know about it, neither could the radio station, and so there was no fault.

 

[kitkit201]

i always hated 107.9 the end radio station when i was going to college in Davis... idiots upthere are going to get sued up the wazoo for this contest...

 

[mjrpes3]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

So if the woman could not be expected to know about it, neither could the radio station, and so there was no fault.

It isn't as simple as "since she could not expect to know about it, neither could the radio station". All companies, even crappy radio stations, are expected to be a bit more knowledgeable than the average joe. If a bit of research would have shown that doing a water contest can lead to bad things, and the radio station failed to make these risks clear to the participant, then the radio station should be at fault.

Again, this is for the "experts" to testify about and enlighten the jury with... I don't know what the standard protocol is for TV/radio companies that do "on air" Xtreme contests, how prevalent water poisoning is, etc. And a lot may ride on past court precedent. Maybe someone with that knowledge will post here.

EDIT: damn typos

 

[talyn00]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
i bet they're going to sue Nintendo for this. what kind of stupid contest is this? drinking over two litters of water a day if you're not doing any exercise is just dangerous.

Why would they sue Nintendo? It was a radio station that held this contest. And I would assume that drinking an excessive amount of water while exercising might be even worse, since you'd be sweating causing your sodium levels to drop.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: djheater
The radio station has a responsibility to ensure that the activity is safe. Just as fear factor isn't serving participants fatal foods.

The station should have made sure that what they were doing wasn't a dangerous activity.

There are a lot of people who don't know that water can be toxic in large doses, and while I agree that the whole situation is incredibly, tragically, stupid, her family does have grounds to sue.

While it is certainly a stupid contest, the woman is still at least partially at fault for participating in an activity that is known to be dangerous. Her lack of awareness does not make her free from responsibility.

If were an obviously dangerous thing, like bungee jumping, I would agree with you. However, many, probably most, people don't know that drinking a lot of water is dangerous. The family's lawyers will argue that she entered the contest in good faith and placed her safety in the hands of the organizers, who should have known that it was dangerous and controlled the contest so that it was not.

Why is the burden on knowing that drinking too much water can be dangerous placed solely on one party and not the other? It seems to me this was a mutual agreement with both parties bearing responsibility for knowing the risks and rewards of the activity...

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: djheater
The radio station has a responsibility to ensure that the activity is safe. Just as fear factor isn't serving participants fatal foods.

The station should have made sure that what they were doing wasn't a dangerous activity.

There are a lot of people who don't know that water can be toxic in large doses, and while I agree that the whole situation is incredibly, tragically, stupid, her family does have grounds to sue.

While it is certainly a stupid contest, the woman is still at least partially at fault for participating in an activity that is known to be dangerous. Her lack of awareness does not make her free from responsibility.

If were an obviously dangerous thing, like bungee jumping, I would agree with you. However, many, probably most, people don't know that drinking a lot of water is dangerous. The family's lawyers will argue that she entered the contest in good faith and placed her safety in the hands of the organizers, who should have known that it was dangerous and controlled the contest so that it was not.

Why is the burden on knowing that drinking too much water can be dangerous placed solely on one party and not the other? It seems to me this was a mutual agreement with both parties bearing responsibility for knowing the risks and rewards of the activity...

Because the relationship with the contest organizers is one of trust. When you sign up for a tour, for example, you trust that the guides won't take you on a path prone to rock slides.
mjrpes3 has it right though, we don't know nearly enough about it.

 

[HexiumVII]

Wow, her kids are going to get picked on for life.

 

[FoBoT]

 

[Mermaidman]

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: djheater
The radio station has a responsibility to ensure that the activity is safe. Just as fear factor isn't serving participants fatal foods.

The station should have made sure that what they were doing wasn't a dangerous activity.

There are a lot of people who don't know that water can be toxic in large doses, and while I agree that the whole situation is incredibly, tragically, stupid, her family does have grounds to sue.

While it is certainly a stupid contest, the woman is still at least partially at fault for participating in an activity that is known to be dangerous. Her lack of awareness does not make her free from responsibility.

If were an obviously dangerous thing, like bungee jumping, I would agree with you. However, many, probably most, people don't know that drinking a lot of water is dangerous. The family's lawyers will argue that she entered the contest in good faith and placed her safety in the hands of the organizers, who should have known that it was dangerous and controlled the contest so that it was not.

Why is the burden on knowing that drinking too much water can be dangerous placed solely on one party and not the other? It seems to me this was a mutual agreement with both parties bearing responsibility for knowing the risks and rewards of the activity...

In a civil lawsuit, the judge will assign percentage of responsibility to each party. So it might go like 90% radio station, 10% plaintiff.

 

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: illusion88

Originally posted by: FoBoT

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/16455539.htm

radio station idiots

"I was talking to her and she was a nice lady," Ybarra said. "She was telling me about her family and her three kids and how she was doing it for kids."

I hope the radio station gives a Wii to the kids. It's the least they can do after killing their mother.

Right! Because they held a gun to her head and made her drink all the water. It was a contest and she is the one who made a choice to participate. Nobody made her do anything.


: ) Amanda