Woman drivers are bad all over

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TehMac

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A women rear ended my dad's volvo.

Irony: She works for the DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles)
 

mrSHEiK124

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Pieceofmind
Well, I for one, am a woman and I'm a rather confident driver. I drive quickly (ie, over the speed limit, but not recklessly) I know what I'm doing and I pay attention to the road, stop at stop signs etc. It depends on the person. People of both genders need to take their driving seriously. Many of my women friends do not.
I'm the only one out of my female friends that has not crashed a car or put one in a ditch, and I started driving before all of them. In a very snowy area, btw.

Wow :heart:
 

AstroManLuca

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Jun 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
But I think, somehow, people have gotten it into their head that inattentive driving is worse than overly aggressive driving.

because it is

++

Actually you guys are right. The worst thing is when you get some hotshot who is inattentive but is trying to drive fast and aggressively at the same time. But that's not as common as someone just spacing out. I guess it would be a case of worse accidents vs. more (but less severe) accidents.

Insurance rates should at least be equal.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Insomniator
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Can we stop with the women bashing already?
These threads area about as preDICtable as religion threads, full of a bunch of vitriol.

I just don't really think they should be allowed to drive, nothing wrong with that.

my grandmother doesn't think women should be allowed to drive either
Old people driving... male or female, now there's a category of people who need to not be driving or maybe retake their road test at a certain age. Tell your grandma that.

 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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couldn't help but notice the "recommended for you" section link to the "sexy french game show"... brilliant!
 

Pieceofmind

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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: Pieceofmind
Well, I for one, am a woman and I'm a rather confident driver. I drive quickly (ie, over the speed limit, but not recklessly) I know what I'm doing and I pay attention to the road, stop at stop signs etc. It depends on the person. People of both genders need to take their driving seriously. Many of my women friends do not.
I'm the only one out of my female friends that has not crashed a car or put one in a ditch, and I started driving before all of them. In a very snowy area, btw.

Wow :heart:

sarcasm or no?
 

shocksyde

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Jun 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: Deviant Grasshopper
Tagged.


I still don't understand how women have lower insurance rates than men.

It does seem off, but then when you think about it guys tend to speed more. And it's speed that does the most damage.

WRONG

http://www.motorauthority.com/...only-5-of-crashes.html

WRONG.

2 different things. Speeding may cause only 5% of accidents, but if you have the same accident at 5mph and 50mph, which one do you think would hurt the most?

Nice try.

Because when I speed, I do 50 in a 5mph zone?

The difference between 45 and 52 or 65 and 75 is not that big of a deal.

The amount of damage is exponential, so yeah, I'd say it's a big deal.
 

Daaavo

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May 23, 2000
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Insomniator
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Can we stop with the women bashing already?
These threads area about as preDICtable as religion threads, full of a bunch of vitriol.

I just don't really think they should be allowed to drive, nothing wrong with that.

my grandmother doesn't think women should be allowed to drive either
Old people driving... male or female, now there's a category of people who need to not be driving or maybe retake their road test at a certain age. Tell your grandma that.




Grandma does NOT want her car towel dried!!!!





 

mrSHEiK124

Lifer
Mar 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: Pieceofmind
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: Pieceofmind
Well, I for one, am a woman and I'm a rather confident driver. I drive quickly (ie, over the speed limit, but not recklessly) I know what I'm doing and I pay attention to the road, stop at stop signs etc. It depends on the person. People of both genders need to take their driving seriously. Many of my women friends do not.
I'm the only one out of my female friends that has not crashed a car or put one in a ditch, and I started driving before all of them. In a very snowy area, btw.

Wow :heart:

sarcasm or no?

 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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Funny thing about navigation is that my mom is an amazing navigator and my dad is terrible at it. Entirely because my mom has spent her life making maps.

My dad has a GPS, though. The funny thing is when my dad tries to turn on the GPS when my mom is driving! It's like a battle of (wo)man vs. machine. When my brother and I visited them a couple weeks ago, we had a little game where we counted the number of times it had to recalculate the route with my mom at the wheel (she always knows a better way, or at least she assumes her way is always the best, and it often is).
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Men get into 5.1 crashes per million miles while women get in 5.7 crashes per million miles.

http://www.spike.com/video/men-vs-women-drivers/2906034

Link may be nsfw cus it has women in bikinis on page

/every woman vs man driver thread
I found a better source than SPIKE.

Are Men Better Drivers Than Women?

January 9, 2009

For years, it's been the same argument. Men are better drivers than women. Despite the lack of any real proof, there are few men that would honestly put their hands on their hearts and admit that their wives or girlfriends were better drivers than they are.

So, who is more likely to get a traffic violation? Or be in a fatal accident? When the question is asked that way, it might give even the most proud male driver a moment of pause.

Insurance companies have already made up their minds on the matter?and they have the data to back it up.

"All the evidence points to young males having riskier driving habits than young females. Men between the ages of 16 and 25 are much more likely to be involved in accidents, or be cited for traffic violations," explains Insurance.com VP, Sam Belden. "Insurance companies bear this kind of behavior in mind when quoting rates."

Insurance.com's own data supports this, too. Based upon information provided by consumers in the first half of 2008, Insurance.com reports that 68% of women have no traffic violations versus 64% of men.

Of those reporting violations, 30% of women have 1?3 traffic violations versus 33% of men, and 2% of women have 4+ traffic violations versus 3% of men.

The Official Numbers
According to TrafficSTATS, a risk analysis study by Carnegie Mellon for AAA in 2007, men have a 77% higher risk of dying in an accident compared to women. The study, using information from both the Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) and the National Household Travel Survey estimated fatalities per 100 million trips to be 14.61 for men and 6.53 for women. The total number of fatalities between 1999 and 2005 were 175,094 for men and 82,371 women.

According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), 14,512 male drivers died in 2007 compared to 5,865 female drivers, and even though there tend to be more male drivers on the road than females, the numbers strongly support the TrafficSTATS report.

?All the evidence points to young males having riskier driving habits than young females. Men between the ages of 16 and 25 are much more likely to be involved in accidents, or be cited for traffic violations.? ?Sam Belden, Insurance.com VP

Age Matters
Males aged 20 to 24 were more likely to die in an accident, while females aged 16?19 were slightly more likely to be killed than females 20?24. Many auto insurance industry experts would agree with the theory that males, especially young men, tend to drive more aggressively than women and display their aggression in a direct manner, rather than indirectly. And, experts agree that male drivers break the law more, and take more risks when driving.

On the flip side, IIHS also reported that from 1975 to 2007, female deaths in motor vehicle crashes increased 1 percent compared to an 11 percent decline for male motorists during that same period. IIHS attributes this to "increased exposure" with more women licensed now than in the past.

Doomed to Pay More?
Although younger drivers are more likely to pay more for their car insurance, it's not always driving habits that make the difference. Many other things are taken into consideration by insurance companies, not always in a bad way.

"It's important to bear in mind that not every insurance company evaluates risk in exactly the same way," reports Belden. "This makes it even more important for younger drivers, of both genders, to compare rates before buying. There could be a considerable difference in premium between one company and another."

The argument is likely to continue, but as far as car insurance companies are concerned?for now, at least?young men are the riskier drivers.

Safe Driving Courses
According to data provided by IDriveSafely.com, a provider of online driving courses, the split between males and females completing such courses favors males by 55% to 45% in 2008. This is across all age groups, and includes those drivers seeking potential discounts on their car insurance policies. The percentage of males taking courses has been steadily increasing over the last five years. Does this mean that men realize that they need more help than women? Are they becoming safer drivers because of this?

http://www.insurance.com/artic...s_than_women/artid/259
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Men get into 5.1 crashes per million miles while women get in 5.7 crashes per million miles.

http://www.spike.com/video/men-vs-women-drivers/2906034

Link may be nsfw cus it has women in bikinis on page

/every woman vs man driver thread
I found a better source than SPIKE.

Are Men Better Drivers Than Women?

January 9, 2009

For years, it's been the same argument. Men are better drivers than women. Despite the lack of any real proof, there are few men that would honestly put their hands on their hearts and admit that their wives or girlfriends were better drivers than they are.

So, who is more likely to get a traffic violation? Or be in a fatal accident? When the question is asked that way, it might give even the most proud male driver a moment of pause.

Insurance companies have already made up their minds on the matter?and they have the data to back it up.

"All the evidence points to young males having riskier driving habits than young females. Men between the ages of 16 and 25 are much more likely to be involved in accidents, or be cited for traffic violations," explains Insurance.com VP, Sam Belden. "Insurance companies bear this kind of behavior in mind when quoting rates."

Insurance.com's own data supports this, too. Based upon information provided by consumers in the first half of 2008, Insurance.com reports that 68% of women have no traffic violations versus 64% of men.

Of those reporting violations, 30% of women have 1?3 traffic violations versus 33% of men, and 2% of women have 4+ traffic violations versus 3% of men.

The Official Numbers
According to TrafficSTATS, a risk analysis study by Carnegie Mellon for AAA in 2007, men have a 77% higher risk of dying in an accident compared to women. The study, using information from both the Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) and the National Household Travel Survey estimated fatalities per 100 million trips to be 14.61 for men and 6.53 for women. The total number of fatalities between 1999 and 2005 were 175,094 for men and 82,371 women.

According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), 14,512 male drivers died in 2007 compared to 5,865 female drivers, and even though there tend to be more male drivers on the road than females, the numbers strongly support the TrafficSTATS report.

?All the evidence points to young males having riskier driving habits than young females. Men between the ages of 16 and 25 are much more likely to be involved in accidents, or be cited for traffic violations.? ?Sam Belden, Insurance.com VP

Age Matters
Males aged 20 to 24 were more likely to die in an accident, while females aged 16?19 were slightly more likely to be killed than females 20?24. Many auto insurance industry experts would agree with the theory that males, especially young men, tend to drive more aggressively than women and display their aggression in a direct manner, rather than indirectly. And, experts agree that male drivers break the law more, and take more risks when driving.

On the flip side, IIHS also reported that from 1975 to 2007, female deaths in motor vehicle crashes increased 1 percent compared to an 11 percent decline for male motorists during that same period. IIHS attributes this to "increased exposure" with more women licensed now than in the past.

Doomed to Pay More?
Although younger drivers are more likely to pay more for their car insurance, it's not always driving habits that make the difference. Many other things are taken into consideration by insurance companies, not always in a bad way.

"It's important to bear in mind that not every insurance company evaluates risk in exactly the same way," reports Belden. "This makes it even more important for younger drivers, of both genders, to compare rates before buying. There could be a considerable difference in premium between one company and another."

The argument is likely to continue, but as far as car insurance companies are concerned?for now, at least?young men are the riskier drivers.

Safe Driving Courses
According to data provided by IDriveSafely.com, a provider of online driving courses, the split between males and females completing such courses favors males by 55% to 45% in 2008. This is across all age groups, and includes those drivers seeking potential discounts on their car insurance policies. The percentage of males taking courses has been steadily increasing over the last five years. Does this mean that men realize that they need more help than women? Are they becoming safer drivers because of this?

http://www.insurance.com/artic...s_than_women/artid/259

That seems to be comparing ONLY young males to young females. Not males and females in general. SpikeTV says they get their source from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health which is a very reputable source.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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How about we settle this ATOT style, we'll pick 3 capable ATOT male drivers and the all the women of ATOT, about 2 1/2 of them (the tranny can come as woman) and have a drive - off. Set up an obstacle course, or do it togue style and determine this once and for all. Who's up for it?
 

Number1

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Feb 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
How about we settle this ATOT style, we'll pick 3 capable ATOT male drivers and the all the women of ATOT, about 2 1/2 of them (the tranny can come as woman) and have a drive - off. Set up an obstacle course, or do it togue style and determine this once and for all. Who's up for it?

Who is the tranny?
 

Demon-Xanth

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: SSSnail
How about we settle this ATOT style, we'll pick 3 capable ATOT male drivers and the all the women of ATOT, about 2 1/2 of them (the tranny can come as woman) and have a drive - off. Set up an obstacle course, or do it togue style and determine this once and for all. Who's up for it?

Who is the tranny?

I think it's Manuel.
 

geno

Lifer
Dec 26, 1999
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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Both behaviors lead to accidents. But I think, somehow, people have gotten it into their head that inattentive driving is worse than overly aggressive driving.

It is. I have NEVER seen an asshole driver swerving in and out of lanes, or generally being a dick, cause an accident.

Every accident I've ever witnessed was due to someone not looking where they should have been, or got distracted by a kid in the back, or was putting makeup on, or talking on a phone, etc.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Originally posted by: Deviant Grasshopper
Tagged.


I still don't understand how women have lower insurance rates than men.

It does seem off, but then when you think about it guys tend to speed more. And it's speed that does the most damage.

WRONG

http://www.motorauthority.com/...only-5-of-crashes.html

WRONG.

2 different things. Speeding may cause only 5% of accidents, but if you have the same accident at 5mph and 50mph, which one do you think would hurt the most?

Nice try.

Because when I speed, I do 50 in a 5mph zone?

The difference between 45 and 52 or 65 and 75 is not that big of a deal.

The amount of damage is exponential, so yeah, I'd say it's a big deal.

It's not exponential.
 

Number1

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Feb 24, 2006
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So the worst drivers, according to Mosh's article, are males aged 16 to 24? How many in this thread are in this category and wrecked theirs or daddy's car?
I got my first motorcycle at 19 and only survived trough pure luck. Never crashed it though. I got my first accident at age 40 and was not at fault. Then, I allowed my young son to drive our car at age 17. What a disaster that was. He was on the road for less then 3 hours before backing up into another car. Months later, he cut the cavalier in 2 and then tipped the SUV on it's side resulting in $7000.00 worth of damage. Useless to say, he aint driving my cars anymore. LOL
 
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