woman punched into a coma over a parking space

[ShawnD1]

What kind of piece of shit punches a woman? Just fucking off that bastard...please.

Did she have a latin temper? Hispanic women are bitches who need to be punched every once in a while.

 

[amdhunter]

Link?

http://gothamist.com/2011/03/04/dispute_over_parking_spot_ends_with.php

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On the local news they mentioned multiple cameras, and they show that he only hit her once, not twice.

 

[nick1985]

Did she have a latin temper? Hispanic women are bitches who need to be punched every once in a while.

lol...

 

[TheVrolok]

And all you'll be doing is encouraging your attacker to try again on you or someone else. And why the fuck not? You didn't even have the balls to defend yourself and you came off looking like a complete coward. On the other hand, if you hit them back, they will think twice before trying to use violence again. See how that works? It's socially irresponsible to let anyone get away with assaulting you, regardless of their gender. And Castle Doctrine says that I don't have to fear for my life in order to defend myself. I have a right to stand my ground and fight back in any place that I have a right to be in.

Why do you keep changing your argument, we're not talking about an unprovoked person just lashing out violently at you. We're talking about someone who was provoked and then allegedly struck some dude. A small but important distinction.

Also, it sounds like you're far more worried about being considered a coward, than doing the mature thing. If name calling, or your hurt ego, bothers you so much that you need to respond with violence to assuage things, you may have bigger problems.

You then argue that it's socially responsible to use violence to teach the lesson that violence is wrong? Can you not see how absurd that statement is without even thinking any further. I'll say it again, you're asserting that CAUSING VIOLENCE convinces people that VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER. Quite clearly, I don't think you see how that works, or better yet, doesn't.

Bringing up Castle Doctrine are we? Well, firstly, this occurred in New York which actually DOES NOT have a Castle Law in place for being in public - so it doesn't apply from the get go. Also, Castle Doctrine is written to provide the legal right to use deadly force to prevent harm to life/limb, NOT to retaliate with physical violence to "solve a problem." So once again you're off base.

Idealistic bullshit.

Well, I disagree with you here, obviously; but even if not, I'd at least prefer my idealistic bullshit, to your complete and utter bullshit.

 

[MrPickins]

http://gothamist.com/2011/03/04/dispute_over_parking_spot_ends_with.php

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On the local news they mentioned multiple cameras, and they show that he only hit her once, not twice.

The attorney also claims he has surveillance video that shows Rosas throwing the first punch, which bruised his client's face.

I reserve judgment until I see an actual video.

 

[amdhunter]

I reserve judgment until I see an actual video.

You'll never see that video. The media made that ghetto whore look like some kind of princess. It's White woman syndrome, except the lady is spanish, and is surviving for now.

AND, before it comes up; this whole thing makes me pissed because people do this all the time in my area. They'll stand in a blank spot for 10 minutes holding a spot for someone coming home from work, and they'll start fights or scratch your car up if you call them on it. I HATE people like that, and it makes me happy to see someone finally get what they deserved for doing it.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want her to die, that's just harsh. But I bet she won't be doing this again.

 

[MrPickins]

You'll never see that video. The media made that ghetto whore look like some kind of princess. It's White woman syndrome, except the lady is spanish, and is surviving for now.

You have serious issues with women (as evidenced by this and other threads).

 

[classy]

Ouch
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_..._into_a_coma_in_spat_over_a_parking_spot.html

Man that is just bs. 10-15 for this and if she dies 25 to life. He could have called the cops or just let her have the spot. And woman a that small without some kind of weapon poses very little danger at all. All that over a stupid parking spot. Idiot.

 

[DayLaPaul]

There's no rule that says you can't punch a woman. That rule only applies to ladies, which are a dying breed.

 

[qliveur]

^I'm pretty sure that they're extinct.

You then argue that it's socially responsible to use violence to teach the lesson that violence is wrong? Can you not see how absurd that statement is without even thinking any further.

No more absurd than not fighting fighting back when you're being assaulted.

I'll say it again, you're asserting that CAUSING VIOLENCE convinces people that VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER. Quite clearly, I don't think you see how that works, or better yet, doesn't.

CAUSING VIOLENCE? How is defending oneself against an assault "causing violence?" You're wording it like I'm the one starting the fight when I've never assaulted anyone in my life. I do not take kindly to being assaulted, however; not at all.

I'm not trying to teach people that "violence is wrong" (that's coming from you); I'm trying to teach them that assaulting me is a bad idea. And I am not trying to convince people that "VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER" (that is obviously your mantra), because I am definitely of the opinion that, in certain cases, it most definitely is the answer, such as when I'm being assaulted.

 

[esun]

It is, and it's right.

Gross generalizations are almost never right. Let me assure you there are situations where hitting a woman would be completely appropriate (even shooting one). You just have to think a tiny bit. Don't pretend there are no female criminals or that no females are physically capable of kicking your ass.

 

[classy]

Well, if she did attack first, i can empathize with fighting back, but that was a bit disproportionate.

True. Just call the cops, but to fight back even if this true is a bit weak. I can't defend the dude for this. As a man you gotta know when to flex your strength and when to reserve it. I have been punched and slapped by a woman, but you don't cold cock them.

 

[lxskllr]

And I am not trying to convince people that "VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER" (that is obviously your mantra), because I am definitely of the opinion that, in certain cases, it most definitely is the answer, such as when I'm being assaulted.

Violence solves every problem. Sometimes it's a bitch slap, and sometimes it's a nuke, but there's few problems violence can't solve.

 

[qliveur]

Violence solves every problem. Sometimes it's a bitch slap, and sometimes it's a nuke, but there's few problems violence can't solve.

Nope, I'm not of that opinion, either.

 

[amdhunter]

You have serious issues with women (as evidenced by this and other threads).

No, I have serious issues with people from the ghetto. I am actually being nice compared if this were a guy holding a parking space.

You have NO idea how much people pull that "hold a parking space" crap here in NY.

 

[Brigandier]

No, I have serious issues with people from the ghetto. I am actually being nice compared if this were a guy holding a parking space.

You have NO idea how much people pull that "hold a parking space" crap here in NY.

The only thing that holds a parking space is a car.

 

[TheVrolok]

^I'm pretty sure that they're extinct.

No more absurd than not fighting fighting back when you're being assaulted.

CAUSING VIOLENCE? How is defending oneself against an assault "causing violence?" You're wording it like I'm the one starting the fight when I've never assaulted anyone in my life.

I'm not trying to teach people that "violence is wrong" (that's coming from you); I'm trying to teach them that assaulting me is a bad idea. And I am not trying to convince people that "VIOLENCE IS NOT THE ANSWER" (that is obviously your mantra), because I am definitely of the opinion that, in certain cases, it most definitely is the answer, such as when I'm being assaulted.

This is just going in circles. I already said I support fighting back/self defense (Hell, I carry a concealed firearm and would not hesitate to shoot and kill someone if it was necessary for me to do so) if you are in danger of losing life or limb, or even if the situation is questionable and you're on your property (in your car, in your residence, in your place of business, etc. - ie Castle Doctrine). My argument in THIS thread, about THIS situation, is that I think it's wrong to punch/beat a chick for holding a parking spot in NYC, even if she did "strike" first. I also don't believe all, or even many, violent (or potentially violent) situations should/could be solved with violence.

It's fairly simple. Violence is rarely as simple as you're making it out to be. Hell, take the OP/your example. A chick starts shit with you for whatever reason and hits you, now you, because you "don't want to be a coward" and/or "want to teach her a lesson that assault is not right" hit her back. She, now realizing the shit she has gotten herself into attacking a most likely larger male, decides to escalate things and pulls a concealed knife/gun and stabs/shoots you. Yep, you were the tough guy, not at all a coward, you showed her, you proved that assaulting is wrong. Or, you could have just taken a lump, been more mature about it, and walked away.

Now, I gotta go move a couch, so, in the spirit of ATOT thread, we can continue this argument later!

 

[Howard]

It's fairly simple. Violence is rarely as simple as you're making it out to be. Hell, take the OP/your example. A chick starts shit with you for whatever reason and hits you, now you, because you "don't want to be a coward" and/or "want to teach her a lesson that assault is not right" hit her back. She, now realizing the shit she has gotten herself into attacking a most likely larger male, decides to escalate things and pulls a concealed knife/gun and stabs/shoots you. Yep, you were the tough guy, not at all a coward, you showed her, you proved that assaulting is wrong. Or, you could have just taken a lump, been more mature about it, and walked away.

Tell me again who retaliates and then stands there? It either needs to go until somebody's knocked out, or somebody gets out of dodge.

 

[BudAshes]

No, I have serious issues with people from the ghetto. I am actually being nice compared if this were a guy holding a parking space.

You have NO idea how much people pull that "hold a parking space" crap here in NY.

move

 

[Narmer]

i don't mind as long as their are parking spots somewhere in the lot even if its in the back, but this east village place needs to expand their lot or do something different if its that full all the time or enough so that people need to save spots. small lots and too many people is an instigation for violence.

reminds me when kids saved spots for friends at lunch tables in school, we often didn't have enough chairs which caused fights...school's fault imo.

lol, this is New York City. Manhattan. Parking spots are worth gold. I've seen this exact same situation on the UWS and two men getting into fights over a spot one guy was standing in. For me, if somebody wants a spot, I won't argue over it and let them take it. It isn't worth having my car keyed.

 

[Number1]

You'll never see that video. The media made that ghetto whore look like some kind of princess. It's White woman syndrome, except the lady is spanish, and is surviving for now.

AND, before it comes up; this whole thing makes me pissed because people do this all the time in my area. They'll stand in a blank spot for 10 minutes holding a spot for someone coming home from work, and they'll start fights or scratch your car up if you call them on it. I HATE people like that, and it makes me happy to see someone finally get what they deserved for doing it.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want her to die, that's just harsh. But I bet she won't be doing this again.

You're such an asshole. Just because nobody want's to reserve a parking spot for you doesn't mean nobody else can do it.

 

[Matthiasa]

I personally like how sexist this thread is... as already mentioned by a few others.

Don't deal out if you can't take it back, simple as that.

But double standards are fun like that aren't they.

You guys basically saying a girl could threaten you with a weapon and until she draws blood you wouldn't do anything. If that's your thing okay but umm.. good luck with that in the real world (read not your fantasy land).

 

[JulesMaximus]

That doesn't excuse her from hitting the guy. The guy isn't excused for hitting her, either. But if you don't want to get punched, a good rule of thumb is to not punch others, it doesn't matter if you're 4'11" and a woman, that is no pass for being violent.

Why would I expect a bunch of woman hating computer nerds to side with the woman in this story...

 

[Brigandier]

Why would I expect a bunch of woman hating computer nerds to side with the woman in this story...

I'm not siding with anyone, the whole situation is fucked. However, I don't think the woman should be excused for her poor behavior just because she got the short end of the stick. You know what situation I'd like to have seen? One where violence never entered the picture, but what happened was the woman introduced violence to the picture and shit went down.

 

[marrr]

That guy should be shot.