Woman raped by stranger and then arrested by cops.

[Skeeedunt]

Originally posted by: dbk
I think the most interesting part of the article is the denial of the pill.

I agree. I don't have any problem with the fact that she was arrested, sucky night for her sure, but that is the part that really bothered me.

 

[Leros]

They really need to make a federal law that says its illegal to refuse legal medication to people.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

I thought that was some crazy stuff right there in the OP.

And then, I read the first response.

 

[CrazyShiz]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: CrazyShiz

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
So, if Bin Laden were raped we should let him go?

Oh hell no. He should rot in jail AND be denied the Morning After pill. God knows the murder of over 3,000 people is equivalent to stealing...


Please think before you speak.

So now we have degrees of law breaking? Who sets that standard?

We have degrees of law breaking? Since when?

Since when is SPEEDING treated differently than ASSAULT?

Or MURDER treated differently than TAX EVASION?

If they are treated differently, they shouldn't be. I propose a 10 year sentence on ALL crimes, no matter their severity.

:disgust:

I'll say it again, please think before you speak.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: Leros
They really need to make a federal law that says its illegal to refuse legal medication to people.

No joke....they pounded that into our heads in nursing school. Leave your personal beliefs at home. It's not your place as a nurse/pharmacist/doctor/any health care worker to impress your beliefs on your patient!!!!

Secondly, they said refusing to dispense meds to a patient is a fast track to a lawsuit and/or losing your job.

 

[waggy]

pity that she was raped. hope they catch whoever did it and hang them the balls.


but i do not feel sorry for her gettting arrested. There is no good reason to be denied the pill. that is bullcrap

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: CrazyShiz

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: CrazyShiz

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
So, if Bin Laden were raped we should let him go?

Oh hell no. He should rot in jail AND be denied the Morning After pill. God knows the murder of over 3,000 people is equivalent to stealing...


Please think before you speak.

So now we have degrees of law breaking? Who sets that standard?

We have degrees of law breaking? Since when?

Since when is SPEEDING treated differently than ASSAULT?

Or MURDER treated differently than TAX EVASION?

If they are treated differently, they shouldn't be. I propose a 10 year sentence on ALL crimes, no matter their severity.

:disgust:

I'll say it again, please think before you speak.

I would explain this to you but you are obviously too dense to grasp logic. It's just not worth the effort.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Why is everyone so quick to be opinionated? So far, none of you people including me have a clue what actually happened. Even this dreaded "refusal of morning-after pill". Thats what the *victim's mom* said. We dont know what the real reason was. Just calm down people, dont get your panties in a bunch and wait for something other than pure speculation from a biased news source (yes, all are biased, thats what im saying) to come around

 

[CrazyShiz]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: CrazyShiz

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: CrazyShiz

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
So, if Bin Laden were raped we should let him go?

Oh hell no. He should rot in jail AND be denied the Morning After pill. God knows the murder of over 3,000 people is equivalent to stealing...


Please think before you speak.

So now we have degrees of law breaking? Who sets that standard?

We have degrees of law breaking? Since when?

Since when is SPEEDING treated differently than ASSAULT?

Or MURDER treated differently than TAX EVASION?

If they are treated differently, they shouldn't be. I propose a 10 year sentence on ALL crimes, no matter their severity.

:disgust:

I'll say it again, please think before you speak.

I would explain this to you but you are obviously too dense to grasp logic. It's just not worth the effort.

Ah, so your dumb AND lazy. Gotcha

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: CrazyShiz
...
Ah, so your dumb AND lazy. Gotcha

I realize your comprehension skills are lacking so I will explain this one.
I said that you'd never understand it. Not that it might take you a while.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: CrazyShiz

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
So, if Bin Laden were raped we should let him go?

Oh hell no. He should rot in jail AND be denied the Morning After pill. God knows the murder of over 3,000 people is equivalent to stealing...


Please think before you speak.

If she's a criminal she's a criminal, she doesn't get a pass just because she was raped.

She shouldn't have been denied the morning after pill, that's idiotic. I assume the nurse supervisor is Catholic, but I wasn't aware that it was against their religion for non-Catholics to take the morning after pill.

 

[senseamp]

The pill, which prevents pregnancy, must be taken in two doses. The woman took one pill, but said she was denied the second pill by a nurse supervisor at the jail.
"The supervisor said the morning after pill was against her, the supervisor's, religion and refused to dispense it," the alleged victim's mother said.

Nice. If that's against her religion, why did she get a nursing job that may require her to dispense it?

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: AMDUALY
First to say, OWNED

You have to be one of the biggest idiots I've ever seen on this forum and that's really saying something. Feel free to stop breathing any time.

 

[NaOH]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: AMDUALY
First to say, OWNED

You have to be one of the biggest idiots I've ever seen on this forum and that's really saying something. Feel free to stop breathing any time.

So my opinion based on no conclusive evidence is somehow wrong compared to the people who sympathized with the "victim" based on no conclusive evidence?

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: senseamp

The pill, which prevents pregnancy, must be taken in two doses. The woman took one pill, but said she was denied the second pill by a nurse supervisor at the jail.
"The supervisor said the morning after pill was against her, the supervisor's, religion and refused to dispense it," the alleged victim's mother said.

Nice. If that's against her religion, why did she get a nursing job that may require her to dispense it?

So that she can foist those beliefs on others, making them all conform to her will, duh.

 

[JulesMaximus]

"The supervisor said the morning after pill was against her, the supervisor's, religion and refused to dispense it," the alleged victim's mother said.

God damned, that pisses me off. :| Motherfvcking c0cksucking religious nutjobs FTMFL!!!

Go to fvcking hell you stupid bitch...it's not your call to make.

 

[senseamp]

Originally posted by: Wuffsunie

Originally posted by: senseamp

The pill, which prevents pregnancy, must be taken in two doses. The woman took one pill, but said she was denied the second pill by a nurse supervisor at the jail.
"The supervisor said the morning after pill was against her, the supervisor's, religion and refused to dispense it," the alleged victim's mother said.

Nice. If that's against her religion, why did she get a nursing job that may require her to dispense it?

So that she can foist those beliefs on others, making them all conform to her will, duh.

I hope that b!tch gets a Scientologist nurse when she needs a blood transfusion.

 

[aidanjm]

the behavior of the jail nurse is simply outrageous. she should really lose her job. it is not up to her to make medical decisions for prisoners based on her own religious beliefs.

 

[Mill]

Absolutely wrong for them to deny her that medication. If the nurse didn't want to dispense in then she should have called someone that would. Hopefully the girl was able to take another dosage within 72 hours, but Plan B actually can be effective outside the time frame.

There's other options too like a surgical device. Regardless of what options she had after she was bailed out, she never should have had to face that to begin with. The warrant should have never been served on her until she had a rape examination, medication from a doctor, and night in the hospital. They could have posted an officer at the door to serve the warrant once she was released from the hospital.

Heads should roll over this one.

However, part of me believes it might not be so cut and dry. I'm sure situations like this are a possibility, but I'd like to get the whole story. If true then there's definite reason for an investigation and lawsuits galore. I'm always wary about believing people these days, but I don't see any reason yet to disbelieve this girl.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: CrazyShiz

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
So, if Bin Laden were raped we should let him go?

Oh hell no. He should rot in jail AND be denied the Morning After pill. God knows the murder of over 3,000 people is equivalent to stealing...


Please think before you speak.

If she's a criminal she's a criminal, she doesn't get a pass just because she was raped.

She shouldn't have been denied the morning after pill, that's idiotic. I assume the nurse supervisor is Catholic, but I wasn't aware that it was against their religion for non-Catholics to take the morning after pill.

First of all, I'd say you are wrong on two counts. First of all, if someone is injured (especially a rape), you can arrest them and transport them to a hospital for treatment. After a doctor releases them you can transport them to jail (you have an officer remain outside the patient's room). Or, in cases like this involving a rape, you can delay the serving of the warrant and post a guard to later serve the warrant. There's zero reason to create an emotional trauma on-top of an emotional trauma that had just occurred. It isn't good policing and it isn't the procedure I've been taught.

Secondly, some Catholics or religious folks will NOT dispense or write prescriptions for ANYONE to use a contraceptive. I have a good friend of mine who is a doctor, and he simply won't do it. He's not a jerk about it, though. If someone asks him about it he will simply say it is against his religious beliefs and then call another doctor to take care of the situation, or refer them to someone else for immediate care -- or at the very worst, he will send them to the E.R.

His beliefs are very strong, and it carries over into his personal life as well. He doesn't believe in the usage of contraceptives at all. He's not judgemental about it. He knows that I use them, and he's never once said a negative thing about it. He just explains the way he feels, and that's it. He'd never talk about his personal feelings with a patient unless they ask. Just a simple: I'm sorry, I cannot write you a prescription for that because it is against my religious beliefs. I'll ask Dr. Whoever to come talk to you and help you out. Or, he'll give them a list of doctors or the other things I mentioned earlier.

There's absolutely zero problem to me with someone refusing to dispense or prescribe contraceptives if it is against their religious beliefs. Unless, of course, it is an emergency or there is no provider available. In this situation, with the nurse, it was obviously an emergency, and obviously there was another way out. Someone else could have dispensed it, or she could have sent the girl under guard to the E.R. There's no excuse for REFUSING to allow someone to make their own personal choice. You don't have to dispense it, but you better not prevent their freedom from making a personal choice if they want it. That includes calling the damn Sheriff and getting his ass to come down to the jail if you don't want to do it.

 

[Ranger X]

Is that right? 1:30PM? So she was raped in broad daylight?

BTW, it's people like that nurse that makes me proud that I'm an atheist. I recall reading about a bunch of pharmacists refusing to sell birth control pills because it was against their religion and that made me sick to my stomach.

 

[aurareturn]

Wow. That was a ****** up story.

To be raped and then put into a jail then denied a very important pill because of a stupid religious supervisor.... is just mind boggling. Wtf is wrong with people these days.

I absolutely hate hearing about rapes and I hope every rapist out there get a punishment. I can't imagine my girlfriend or any of my close relatives being raped. I'd be so mad.

Poor girl. I hope the supervisor gets sued to her ass and the rapist sentenced to life in prison.

 

[toolboxolio]

Originally posted by: dbk
I think the most interesting part of the article is the denial of the pill.

The reason for denial to be more specific.

I was thinking that the jail was just neglecting her until I read the part about religious horsesh!t.

I think jesus would have given her the pill... then fired the jail nurse for being a nartard.

 

[aurareturn]

Originally posted by: Ranger X

BTW, it's people like that nurse that makes me proud that I'm an atheist. I recall reading about a bunch of pharmacists refusing to sell birth control pills because it was against their religion and that made me sick to my stomach.

Agreed.

 

[Estrella]

Originally posted by: toolboxolio

Originally posted by: dbk
I think the most interesting part of the article is the denial of the pill.

The reason for denial to be more specific.

I was thinking that the jail was just neglecting her until I read the part about religious horsesh!t.

I think jesus would have given her the pill... then fired the jail nurse for being a nartard.

LOL. what is a "nartard?". it is a new one for me