Woman sues Match.com because she met a man who attacked her

[TJCS]

I think she accidentally signed up for deathmatch.com

This will be my new slogan in Chivalry:

"I am not here to hurt you, I am here to kill you."

 

[KeithTalent]

Whoa whoa, let me get this straight, there are actually people defending the retarded chick who spilled coffee on herself and sued Mcdonald's a few years ago? I must be watching a Seinfeld episode. :hmm:

KT

 

[momeNt]

Whoa whoa, let me get this straight, there are actually people defending the retarded chick who spilled coffee on herself and sued Mcdonald's a few years ago? I must be watching a Seinfeld episode. :hmm:

KT

I'm sure you are fully versed in the facts of the case which is why you are able to come to the proper conclusion.

 

[KeithTalent]

I'm sure you are fully versed in the facts of the case which is why you are able to come to the proper conclusion.

Meh, I read enough and watched the documentary. Enough to form an opinion.

You the lawyer that represented her or something?

KT

 

[SphinxnihpS]

I think you and I probably agree for the most part on this stuff but I have to take issue here with what you're saying...

Is it not a reasonable expectation when purchasing food from a restaurant that the food in question will not pose a threat to your health?

Should I be allowed to serve pie laced with cyanide? Or serve cups of coffee at 400 degrees Fahrenheit?

Or is there a reasonable societal expectation of foods and beverages not being an UNNECESSARILY high risk to you in that way?

All coffee is boiled, so anyone can reasonably expect that it will be up to and including boiling hot.

A pie laced with cyanide? Come on man...

400 degree coffee? Physics much?

Did McDonald's change the temperature of their coffee or add a warning label for the stupid? Obviously they feel the temperature of their coffee is necessary.

Honestly though, this is much more a problem about a spiraling out of control attitude of entitlement and blame, and it does nothing to cure any problem, rather it just shifts money and power to a group of people who literally do nothing useful for a living, and creates an incomprehensible set of rules which only the aforementioned can benefit from. There is no more democracy when no one can understand the rules to the game. This silly case makes people so upset because it so perfectly illustrates so much of what is wrong with our cultural attitude. Life is inherently dangerous and always fatal. Some people just don't want to believe that, and other use that to their advantage.

 

[KeithTalent]

All coffee is boiled, so anyone can reasonably expect that it will be up to and including boiling hot.

A pie laced with cyanide? Come on man...

400 degree coffee? Physics much?

Did McDonald's change the temperature of their coffee or add a warning label for the stupid? Obviously they feel the temperature of their coffee is necessary.

Honestly though, this is much more a problem about a spiraling out of control attitude of entitlement and blame, and it does nothing to cure any problem, rather it just shifts money and power to a group of people who literally do nothing useful for a living, and creates an incomprehensible set of rules which only the aforementioned can benefit from. There is no more democracy when no one can understand the rules to the game. This silly case makes people so upset because it so perfectly illustrates so much of what is wrong with our cultural attitude. Life is inherently dangerous and always fatal. Some people just don't want to believe that, and other use that to their advantage.

This, thank you. :thumbsup:

KT

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Whoa whoa, let me get this straight, there are actually people defending the retarded chick who spilled coffee on herself and sued Mcdonald's a few years ago? I must be watching a Seinfeld episode. :hmm:

KT

Where have you been? This forum seems to be their world headquarters.

 

[momeNt]

Meh, I read enough and watched the documentary. Enough to form an opinion.

You the lawyer that represented her or something?

KT

Do you feel McDonald's owed her no duty to inform her that the coffee was served at scalding temperatures. McDonald's was in the right for knowing, and withholding that information?

If a contractor and owner knew that a long subway staircase was installed out of code and a few steps had larger drops, and your wife or kid fell and died, would you feel that the owner of the staircase had a duty to alert the deceased to that dangerous condition?

 

[silverpig]

I EXPECT COFFEE TEMPERATURES AS DEFINED BY THE INSTITUTE OF COFFEE TEMPERATURE EXPERTISE SPECIALISTS.

Apparently you're one of those cute kids that didn't learn from the ol' "Hot Stove" lesson That's okay, not every kid makes it.

The main point of the case is McD's is serving a food product and as such, it should be in a consumable state. The coffee was served so hot it would burn your skin/tongue on contact and was thus not consumable.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Do you feel McDonald's owed her no duty to inform her that the coffee was served at scalding temperatures. McDonald's was in the right for knowing, and withholding that information?

If a contractor and owner knew that a long subway staircase was installed out of code and a few steps had larger drops, and your wife or kid fell and died, would you feel that the owner of the staircase had a duty to alert the deceased to that dangerous condition?

Does your stove notify you that it's fucking hot everytime you turn it on?
Does the sun notify you that it's fucking hot and you should take some cold water with you if you're going to be walking in it for 10 hours?
If I go to Antarctica in the Winter, do I need to be notified that it might be smart to pack some layers?

Your lack of logical conclusions is ASTOUNDING.

 

[KeithTalent]

Do you feel McDonald's owed her no duty to inform her that the coffee was served at scalding temperatures. McDonald's was in the right for knowing, and withholding that information?

If a contractor and owner knew that a long subway staircase was installed out of code and a few steps had larger drops, and your wife or kid fell and died, would you feel that the owner of the staircase had a duty to alert the deceased to that dangerous condition?

A hot beverage is implied when buying a regular coffee. The actual temperature will vary; always has, always will.

Any REASONABLE person would understand this, but due to the morons in the world, we need to EXPLICITLY state "hey, that hot beverage you are about to drink is, you know, actually hot".

KT

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

All coffee is boiled, so anyone can reasonably expect that it will be up to and including boiling hot.

A pie laced with cyanide? Come on man...

400 degree coffee? Physics much?

Did McDonald's change the temperature of their coffee or add a warning label for the stupid? Obviously they feel the temperature of their coffee is necessary.

Honestly though, this is much more a problem about a spiraling out of control attitude of entitlement and blame, and it does nothing to cure any problem, rather it just shifts money and power to a group of people who literally do nothing useful for a living, and creates an incomprehensible set of rules which only the aforementioned can benefit from. There is no more democracy when no one can understand the rules to the game. This silly case makes people so upset because it so perfectly illustrates so much of what is wrong with our cultural attitude. Life is inherently dangerous and always fatal. Some people just don't want to believe that, and other use that to their advantage.

*starts a slow clap*


*whew* There is SOME hope for humanity

 

[nehalem256]

Now I am confused. I thought according to feminists that the only thing that could cause a woman to be assaulted by a man is the man.

Is this woman contradicting this idea?

 

[DrunkenSano]

Our world is indeed turning into idiocracy. We need warnings to let us know that hot coffee is hot, that a knife is sharp, that when you turn on an iron it's hot. Worlds are full of idiots nowadays and people who want to make a fast buck. Btw, here's a warning for people, eating McDonalds a lot will make you fat too and is also a health risk. WHO KNEW.

 

[ichy]

If the case is so absurd, it will be easy to show that Match.com is not responsible or their lawyers will easily get the case tossed.

Except our legal system is broken so there's a decent chance it'll be cheaper for them to settle than it will be to get it tossed out. Even if they get it tossed it will cost the company thousands of dollars in legal bills.

 

[momeNt]

A hot beverage is implied when buying a regular coffee. The actual temperature will vary; always has, always will.

Any REASONABLE person would understand this, but due to the morons in the world, we need to EXPLICITLY state "hey, that hot beverage you are about to drink is, you know, actually hot".

KT

Maybe I'm not reasonable, but I wouldn't think that 3rd degree burns were possible in only 3 seconds of contact with their coffee. McDonald's DID KNOW THIS.

 

[Geosurface]

Sorry to do it folks but you made it necessary, this is a photo of the woman's injuries from the coffee case in question:

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So was the coffee at a reasonable temperature for sale?


Nothing made embedding that necessary.
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[Jeffg010]

So what you guys are saying is if I buy a gun and shoot my private parts I can get to sue the gun seller for $10,000,000 because there was no warning on the gun?

 

[momeNt]

Does your stove notify you that it's fucking hot everytime you turn it on?
Does the sun notify you that it's fucking hot and you should take some cold water with you if you're going to be walking in it for 10 hours?
If I go to Antarctica in the Winter, do I need to be notified that it might be smart to pack some layers?

Your lack of logical conclusions is ASTOUNDING.

All improper analogies and they underline your lack of understanding in the matter or just a willful ignorance towards tort law and concepts of duty and causation of damages.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Sorry to do it folks but you made it necessary, this is a photo of the woman's injuries from the coffee case in question:

pic deleted

So was the coffee at a reasonable temperature for sale?

OH WOW A PICTURE THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING GUYS!

All improper analogies and they underline your lack of understanding in the matter or just a willful ignorance towards tort law and concepts of duty and causation of damages.

Please explain how these examples are ANY different.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Do you feel McDonald's owed her no duty to inform her that the coffee was served at scalding temperatures. McDonald's was in the right for knowing, and withholding that information?

If a contractor and owner knew that a long subway staircase was installed out of code and a few steps had larger drops, and your wife or kid fell and died, would you feel that the owner of the staircase had a duty to alert the deceased to that dangerous condition?

That's a terrible analogy. Were you on the jury?

 

[DrunkenSano]

All improper analogies and they underline your lack of understanding in the matter or just a willful ignorance towards tort law and concepts of duty and causation of damages.

Lack of responsibility shows your lack of understanding of how not to be an idiot. It is common sense that if you are handling a new pot of hot coffee, you are careful, regardless of what degree burn it is because if you spill it, it will fucking hurt and burn you. Our system has been made to support idiots that people no longer hold onto their own responsibility of their own well being and opens a loophole to make quick cash.

 

[purbeast0]

I think you and I probably agree for the most part on this stuff but I have to take issue here with what you're saying...

Is it not a reasonable expectation when purchasing food from a restaurant that the food in question will not pose a threat to your health?

Should I be allowed to serve pie laced with cyanide? Or serve cups of coffee at 400 degrees Fahrenheit?

Or is there a reasonable societal expectation of foods and beverages not being an UNNECESSARILY high risk to you in that way?

what about serving chicken that isn't cooked all the way through, and if someone got extremely sick from it and was in the hospital and nearly dies? i wonder if people would be okay with suing for that.

it's similar to the coffee concept except instead of being too hot, it is too "cold" and not cooked enough.

 

[DrunkenSano]

So you're out camping and roasting marshmallows on an open fire. Some idiot decides to put it in his mouth right after he pulls it out of the fire and burns his mouth. Who is he gonna sue? The marshmallow company for not putting a warning on each marshmallow about eating it while it's hot?

 

[Geosurface]

See I have been transitioning from a super-liberal to some sort of libertarian, race-realist, anti-immigration asshole type person and I am quite sure that this is correct. It's very liberating to have my head out of my ass on several of the utopian, misguided, stupid things liberals believe.

But when it comes to some shit like common sense regulations for industry to protect consumers? I'm not going to budge on that.

Restaurants shouldn't be serving 190 degree coffee that can do that to an elderly woman's legs in seconds, in the same way factories shouldn't be employing children and locking their employees in at night and shit. Or allowing their workplace to be hazardous.

Society can most definitely go too far with these regulations, and probably has. We can also go too far with lawsuit award values, and we have. Still, that doesn't invalidate the initial premise.