Woman wants the less fortunate kids to stay out of her 'hood on Halloween

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eng2d2

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Halloween is for everyone either poor or rich. I live in a nice culdesac area and we get 15 trick or treaters. This woman complaining is so dumb. She will end up without trick or treaters.
 

CountZero

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Was talking with my mom, she just moved to a new neighborhood. Neighbor gave her a head's up about Halloween there. It is apparently the place to go to for Halloween. Close to the interstate and while not affluent more affluent than anywhere close by. Neighbor claimed 1000 kids came to their house last year. The police come to direct traffic.

That's insane. I applaud the folks that take it in stride and still give out candy. I don't have anything against the kids but when we're busing in 1000 kids that seems excessive.

I guess I have the same nostalgic view of going around my neighborhood, running into class mates and friends. When we were older we joked about parents bringing us to the nice areas but they never did it.
 

momeNt

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People decorating and looking for attention is a separate argument.

Well, they are handing out candy to hundreds of kids, probably 10x more than surrounding houses, and those houses, even though the neighborhood is all <$1m homes, get the residual affects of the kids who don't just do that one house but decide to walk the surrounding blocks. Yet nobody complains.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Well, they are handing out candy to hundreds of kids, probably 10x more than surrounding houses, and those houses, even though the neighborhood is all <$1m homes, get the residual affects of the kids who don't just do that one house but decide to walk the surrounding blocks. Yet nobody complains.

Nothing to complain about, turn out the light when you run out of candy.

Problem solved.
 

Exterous

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Sure it is, but compared to the entire trick-or-treating population it's still negligible...especially when people are at home, handing out treats, watching their and their neighbor's properties.

Okay, you were part of a trouble-making group. But what proportion of all trick-or-treaters, even of those visiting other neighborhoods, did groups like yours represent? In my experience, people vanning in from other neighborhoods has been a complete non-issue. There is negligibly higher risk that my house will be vandalized relative to some equally anonymous local kid in costume.

I'm surprised no one has agreed yet that these encounters will vary by area. There are quite a few places (I used to live in one) where vandalism on and around Halloween is quite common. It would be insightful to know if she lives near one such area

Just try not to think about grilled cheese sandwiches.

Why not? I love grilled cheese!
 

Apathetic

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Dec 23, 2002
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This is how it was for me too. Now I'm "that guy" who gives out full sized bars on Halloween.

Dave

Wow, reading all this back and forth makes me sad, but also nostalgic. I feel lucky that I grew up in a time and place where Halloween worked like a charm. The time was the height of the baby boom and the place was a dense, middle/working class neighborhood. Participation from folks was 99.99%, and there were literally TONS of kids going around, ALL walking, NO cars.

Only the very, very youngest of kids had adults with them. And these were the days of full size candy bars only. You could take an old school shopping bag and fill it inside of two blocks. Then, I would go back home, unload, and re-fill by ranging out a whole 'nother 2 blocks. We could have kept going all night long, but my parents (and everyone else's parents) would call a halt a that point.

We ended up with two HUGE, old school paper grocery bags chock full of candy. We pigged out for weeks. And, everyone knew everyone else, so the parents at the doors would guess who you were until they got it right.

It was festive as hell. The sidewalks were literally thronged with kids, and everyone's lights were on, many with lighted decorations.

There was ONE family, on the block behind mine, that didn't participate, and went dark on that day. One family, for blocks and blocks around, that was it, that was all.

I'm grateful for my childhood. I had a great one -- it seems Mayberry RFD in retrospect. I remained naive as hell for a long time, for which I'm also grateful. Once you lose your innocence, you never get it back.
 

alkemyst

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Due to changes in my neighborhood my kids only get a good two blocks with about 50% participation so we go to my parents where it's fun. The adults interact, everyone has a good time, some houses offer beer and wine to the adults There are almost no 'dark' houses and if they are dark it's either late or they are not having a Halloween party inside (this really confuses kids, they see the light on, hear the people, but no one answers).

Tons of homes are decorated, some have games going on, some have movies playing...the kids usually fill a pillowcase within 2 hours. In my neighborhood, we'd start early and even after 4 hours, the same pillow case would not even be half way full. One asshole a few years ago actually reached into one of their bags and yelled "TRICK" and slammed the door. Did the same thing to a few other kids and then stopped answering when a few adults went postal. Such bullshit here with Section 8 and some immigrants being put up for asylum from Haiti.

Usually someone is here at my house handing out candy, we do bags with mostly chocolate...they usually last until about 10pm...we normally shut the light off around 9:30pm as it's very slow by then and just older kids (like over 16) at that hour.

I don't give a hard time to those without costumes, only those rude or have doubled back more than once. I have no problem if a kid gets two bags of candy...after that if they are old enough to know better I will cut it off.

In my neighborhood we do get a few adults with baby strollers looking for candy for themselves...sadly these are probably those that have their lights out and contribute to such a bad experience.

As long as the kid is behaving and polite, I could care less where they came from.
 

JumBie

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May 2, 2011
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Probably a troll, but even if not, how is this worthy of even local news recognition? And in any case, fuck the lower class. It's not just about the kids but the parents that shuttle their little shitlings about for a few extra dollars worth of candy. These are the same kind of families that flood the public beaches with their garbage existence. Makes me glad to live in a gated neighborhood. Op is probably going to drive his teenaged "children" to rich neighborhoods next Friday.

Ouch, you're a cold SOB.
 

Legios

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If a kids or parent took the time to create or spent some money on a costume then I dont have a problem with it. If a family comes up in football jerseys I get to hand the candy out, and its a piece for each of them. Otherwise its be a handful.
 

smackababy

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Can we just brand all these poor people with a scarlet letter already? At least, they'd be easily identifiable. Perhaps, a chip could be implanted so we wouldn't even need more than a simple RFID scanner to know they need to be forcefully returned the whatever ghetto the game from!
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Can we just brand all these poor people with a scarlet letter already? At least, they'd be easily identifiable. Perhaps, a chip could be implanted so we wouldn't even need more than a simple RFID scanner to know they need to be forcefully returned the whatever ghetto the game from!

I am betting many that are calling for this have to co-habitate/live with parents and make less than $30k a year...probably on some kind of assistance themselves as well.

The poor are the poor's worst enemy.
 

Sonikku

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I remember when I was super young and trick or treating as a ghostbuster. My mother had sewn me a perfect gray uniform complete with black name tag/red lettering with my surname on it. I had the toy proton pack, but also had the optional working ghost trap accessory that clipped on the pack and also had the gun that made all the electronic sounds and the goggles. Good god I was pimped the fuck out.

I hit all the houses on the block and scored, then got to my grandfathers house. I was trick or treating with two other kids at the time and they both got a mini bag of chips. But he recognized me instantly and went back into the house and when he returned he dumped a banana in my bag.

A BANANA.

ugh.
 

smackababy

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I remember when I was super young and trick or treating as a ghostbuster. My mother had sewn me a perfect gray uniform complete with black name tag/red lettering with my surname on it. I had the toy proton pack, but also had the optional working ghost trap accessory that clipped on the pack and also had the gun that made all the electronic sounds and the goggles. Good god I was pimped the fuck out.

I hit all the houses on the block and scored, then got to my grandfathers house. I was trick or treating with two other kids at the time and they both got a mini bag of chips. But he recognized me instantly and went back into the house and when he returned he dumped a banana in my bag.

A BANANA.

ugh.
I'd take a banana over those fucking assholes who gave out toothpaste and floss. I don't give a shit you're a dentist... That is some dumb shit! Their houses almost always got fucked with.
 

NetWareHead

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I'd take a banana over those fucking assholes who gave out toothpaste and floss. I don't give a shit you're a dentist... That is some dumb shit! Their houses almost always got fucked with.

You'd think a smart dentist would WANT to give out candy. Nothing like promoting a few cavities and ensuring future business :twisted:
 

Perknose

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Just read this from the NYT's site. I thought it captured both sides of this debate rather well:

My wife and I have lived in the North Park neighborhood of San Diego for over a decade. We’ve always loved it here, rough edges and all.

For the first few years, we didn’t bother buying candy to give out on Halloween because so few children trick-or-treated on our street. The handful of neighborhood kids must have done their plundering elsewhere.

In fact, for our twin girls’ first trick-or-treating experience four years ago, we took them to a different neighborhood, one where the locals try to outdo one another with decorations and spooky effects. Yes, it is also a wealthier neighborhood; but we were not there because they hand out full-sized Snickers.


What we hadn’t realized, in our child-free oblivion, was that as our neighborhood experienced a rapid economic and cultural renaissance, the Halloween scene had become much more vibrant. There were more kids in the neighborhood, more homeowners who wanted to deck out their houses and open them up to the public, and, in general, more residents who were invested in the community. Since then we have done all of our trick-or-treating within blocks of our house.

In the last few years, North Park has become one of the Halloween hot spots in town. Minivans barely roll to a stop before pint-sized marauders from parts unknown spill out and sweep the block. It’s pretty adorable. Mostly. Obviously, it’s much more fun to trick-or-treat in an area where the locals get into it than in a Halloween wasteland, and of course I would never begrudge a child her birthright of sugary treats on All Hallows Eve. And yet I’m ambivalent about these Halloween commuters.

As is the case when families abandon their less-than-perfect local schools in pursuit of more attractive options in other areas, some neighborhoods languish, at least partly, because it's easier to get what you need by driving somewhere else than by creating or bringing it to your own community. Halloween is a one-off, of course, and I wouldn't suggest that it's the lynchpin of community building; but when families do Commuter Halloween, they miss a great opportunity for neighborhood bonding. I'm not saying that our local Halloween culture has had major effects on the strength of our community, but it is part of the virtuous cycle that encourages us to think, "Why would we go anywhere else when we have everything right here!" And if we lack something, to have every reason to believe we can will it into existence. While I'm proud to see people from other neighborhoods traveling here because of our reputation, I also hope that they will be inspired to foster community spirit where they live, so that all our neighborhoods will be stronger.
 

BUTCH1

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Jul 15, 2000
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Well I broke down and bought $20 worth of candy, guess I'll give it one more shot, some kids knocked on my door @ 5:30 LOL, I told them to come back later and oh yea, dress up as something..
 

ZaneNBK

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Well I broke down and bought $20 worth of candy, guess I'll give it one more shot, some kids knocked on my door @ 5:30 LOL, I told them to come back later and oh yea, dress up as something..

Got about 1000 pieces of candy ready to go, I expect the younger kids to show up any minute now (it's 5:30 here) as parents tend to want the toddlers and under 6 crowd to go before it gets dark and the scarier costumes come out so they're not so freaked out.

My 8 year old is going with his first "scary" costume this year with a rubber werewolf mask. He mentioned he hopes to scare away other kids so he gets more of the candy, LOL. Yeah, that plan isn't going to work, sorry son.
 
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