Woman's dogs maul her to death

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Considering I've had a lot of experience with all of the above , yer eediot. I doubt you have half the experience I have with either topic. Hint: You'd have to be offline and doing this instead of posting to get that. Fake nonsense fail. There is no way to be in two places at the same time. I welcome your proof that you were.

Wut?

 

[WelshBloke]

Pit bulls are no more aggressive than any other breed unless they are raised to be that way.

They are to other dogs, they score highly there.
The problem with pit bulls and human attacks is that when they do flip into attack mode they are very powerful and can do a lot of damage, they tend to carry on an attack long after other breeds would stop, and they are pretty insensitive to pain so it's hard to get one to stop attacking you or someone else.

One of the meanest dogs I know is a golden retriever. I have been bitten by it more than once. I have still never been bitten by a pitbull.

Golden retrievers consistently score at the bottom end of the aggression scale for both other dogs and humans.

 

[mindless1]

While I am glad that you don't discount the great pets that they can be I do have to ask about one of your previous statements:



I had a German Shepherd Dog that could have easily taken you and me out together.

No you didn't. If you loved and glorified him, great. I have no ill will towards dogs, but there is no geman shepard that can take me ( or another experienced healthy adult male, not a crackhead meth junkie/etc) out. It would require a sequence of events.

1. Dog is big enough to bring me down.
2. I didn't fight back.
3. Dog decides to lunge at my throat.
4. I just let it do that.

Besides that sequence, upon first bite latch on I would pummel its nose or go for the eyes. If it continued to latch on I would just rip its legs off (if it came to that). While that might seem dramatic, grab a dog's legs and pull straight away from the breast and see what happens. Granted, you have to have the strength to do so but we're not talking Rambo levels, which goes back to not having a pet that can take you out... and I didn't involve knives yet.

 

[WelshBloke]

No you didn't. If you loved and glorified him, great. I have no ill will towards dogs, but there is no geman shepard that can take me ( or another experienced healthy adult male, not a crackhead meth junkie/etc) out. It would require a sequence of events.

1. Dog is big enough to bring me down.
2. I didn't fight back.
3. Dog decides to lunge at my throat.
4. I just let it do that.

Besides that sequence, upon first bite latch on I would pummel its nose or go for the eyes. If it continued to latch on I would just rip its legs off (if it came to that). While that might seem dramatic, grab a dog's legs and pull straight away from the breast and see what happens. Granted, you have to have the strength to do so but we're not talking Rambo levels, which goes back to not having a pet that can take you out... and I didn't involve knives yet.

My dog used to go for the balls first. He might not kill you but you'd probably wish that he had.

 

[boomerang]

I wonder if her last thought was about how much she loved her dogs.

 

[NetGuySC]

The hell is wrong with you two?

It says in TFA they were likely being bred for fighting, which means they were being bred for this. Don't blame a whole damned breed for the actions of its owner.

If she was breeding the dogs for fighting she wouldn't have been walking the dogs together, you know because they would have been fighting. These dog were being raised as pets.

The silver lining to this horrible story is that it was the owner of the dogs that was killed and not an innocent neighborhood child or anyone else that is smart enough to not raise this terrible breed of animal.

 

[dud]

Last time I visited a shelter 90%+ of the animals there were Pit Bulls. This is not going to help their situation. I guess that you have to be a very “special” person to want to risk you and your familie’s lives having one or more of these animals around.

 

[MrSquished]

Typical arguments of pit owners when they are confronted by the typical monthly death of an owner at the hands of their pit bull:

a) It's not a real Pit Bull, it just looks like one
b) The owners were terrible people. If you raise them right (like I do), they won't kill you.
c) Small dogs have worse tempers (followed by anecdote about how amazingly nice and good with children their own Pit Bull is)



These dogs have been bred to fight and kill for decades if not centuries and they are very good at it. Most of the time they are fine around full-sized people, but put them around another small dog or small person and their instinct kicks in and they kill.


Thankfully they are pretty much exclusively a pet owned by dregs of society and most nice areas have already banned them. My area does not allow them to be walked in public.


To the pit owners in this thread making excuses for these dogs, how would you feel if your pit bull killed you and your fellow pit defenders decided to call you a terrible owner who abused their dog and didn't properly raise it? That's exactly what will happen if your dog goes insane. This woman is already being called a monster by Pit defenders in this very thread merely because she was killed.

In my area people like you shouldn't be allowed to walk in public

 

[FIVR]

In my area people like you shouldn't be allowed to walk in public

It's too bad like all other things nobody cares what you think. What "should" happen according to people like yourself is meaningless. I might as well ask my cat who should be president.

Please don't bring your walking death machine near my neighborhood, you will be ticketed and told to go back under your bridge.

 

[MrSquished]

It's too bad like all other things nobody cares what you think. What "should" happen according to people like yourself is meaningless. I might as well ask my cat who should be president.

Please don't bring your walking death machine near my neighborhood, you will be ticketed and told to go back under your bridge.

Thanks, I already live in one of the most amazing parts of the country and so I'm quite sure I have zero interest in visiting whatever pissant community disgusting regressives like you live in, with or without my dog.

 

[Darwin333]

No you didn't. If you loved and glorified him, great. I have no ill will towards dogs, but there is no geman shepard that can take me ( or another experienced healthy adult male, not a crackhead meth junkie/etc) out. It would require a sequence of events.

1. Dog is big enough to bring me down.
2. I didn't fight back.
3. Dog decides to lunge at my throat.
4. I just let it do that.

Besides that sequence, upon first bite latch on I would pummel its nose or go for the eyes. If it continued to latch on I would just rip its legs off (if it came to that). While that might seem dramatic, grab a dog's legs and pull straight away from the breast and see what happens. Granted, you have to have the strength to do so but we're not talking Rambo levels, which goes back to not having a pet that can take you out... and I didn't involve knives yet.

Yeah, sure thing bud. Just like the saying "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face", the same thing applies except you are being torn to shreds by a 115lb dog who will very likely have you on the ground before you even have a chance to react. There is a reason they are one of the top working dogs for police and military, how many of those have you heard of having their legs ripped off? I'm a big guy who is plenty strong but I never once thought that I could take out Cosmo if he was deadset on doing me harm. I'd put a years pay on him versus you but if you want to keep on believing you are superman then who am I to rain on your parade.

 

[lxskllr]

Yeah, sure thing bud. Just like the saying "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face", the same thing applies except you are being torn to shreds by a 115lb dog who will very likely have you on the ground before you even have a chance to react. There is a reason they are one of the top working dogs for police and military, how many of those have you heard of having their legs ripped off? I'm a big guy who is plenty strong but I never once thought that I could take out Cosmo if he was deadset on doing me harm. I'd put a years pay on him versus you but if you want to keep on believing you are superman then who am I to rain on your parade.

If I hear a dog, my knife is out. I've scared more than one dog owner who walked their unleashed dog near me(usually trespassing). Maybe I win, maybe I don't, but your animal's gonna be fucked up when it's over with.

 

[Darwin333]

If I hear a dog, my knife is out. I've scared more than one dog owner who walked their unleashed dog near me(usually trespassing). Maybe I win, maybe I don't, but your animal's gonna be fucked up when it's over with.

The premise was that it was YOUR dog, if you are out walking or playing with your dog would you have your knife out? If you are at your buddies house and he has a dog that you have been around a ton of times without incident do you have your knife out?

 

[lxskllr]

The premise was that it was YOUR dog, if you are out walking or playing with your dog would you have your knife out? If you are at your buddies house and he has a dog that you have been around a ton of times without incident do you have your knife out?

I wouldn't own a dog, but yes, I've been around "house" dogs I don't trust for a second. I've been bitten a couple times by dogs(usually German shepherds(cause they're fucked in the head)) for no other reason than they're stupid fuckin' animals. This all happened before I gave a fuck quit giving a fuck, so nothing occurred other than me leaving more sore than I arrived. Realistically, I won't go to your house if I don't trust your dog, but since I give zero fucks now, If I go to your house, I'm gonna kill your animal if it attacks me. If you have a problem with that, then we can discuss that any way you like, but never forget, I give zero fucks.

edit:
can't keep my fucks straight :^D

 

[Zanovar]

I wouldn't own a dog, but yes, I've been around "house" dogs I don't trust for a second. I've been bitten a couple times by dogs(usually German shepherds(cause they're fucked in the head)) for no other reason than they're stupid fuckin' animals. This all happened before I gave a fuck quit giving a fuck, so nothing occurred other than me leaving more sore than I arrived. Realistically, I won't go to your house if I don't trust your dog, but since I give zero fucks now, If I go to your house, I'm gonna kill your animal if it attacks me. If you have a problem with that, then we can discuss that any way you like, but never forget, I give zero fucks.

edit:
can't keep my fucks straight :^D

Invites Lxsllr for tea and biscuits.(hides dog).im kidding i dont even own a dog.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Invites Lxsllr for tea and biscuits.(hides dog).im kidding i dont even own a dog.

I'd go get a large dog just for the occasion.

 

[Captante]

“Few dogs have been more carefully bred throughout their history, and there are few breeds with as voluminous pedigree records. Today the Staffordshire has emerged from his gladiatorial background as one of the finest of all dogs. He is proud and noble of bearing, he combines power and with grace and agility, he is bright and alert and his courage is not surpassed in any other animal on earth. He is intelligent, outstandingly amenable to training and discipline, and is adaptable to almost any conditions. He is superbly gentile with children, intensely loyal and affectionate, and is a wonderful watchdog. There are few dogs indeed that combine as many admirable qualities.” “In no other breed is there present such a remarkable combination of gentleness, camaraderie and reliability.”

– Wilfred Truman Brandon Founding President and primary energy behind AKC recognition of the Staffordshire Terrier

Written by someone who knows a good bit more about American pit-bulls then most.



Having said that, even if you completely discount 75% of the attacks by "Pit-Bulls" for all the reasons discussed in this thread and others they are still one of the more aggressive and dangerous breed to own especially if you count attacks on other dogs.

 

[lxskllr]

Invites Lxsllr for tea and biscuits.(hides dog).im kidding i dont even own a dog.

A friend of mine growing up was Asian, descended from a former British colony. A couple times I showed up at his house, but he wasn't there, and I had tea with his grandfather while waiting for him to return. Good times. I wish I had spent more time talking to his grandfather. He was a cool guy, and I'm sure had many interesting things to talk about had I pursued it :^/

 

[Mayne]

all pit bulls should be put to sleep.

 

[Zanovar]

I'd go get a large dog just for the occasion.

haha

 

[skyking]

Yeah, sure thing bud. Just like the saying "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face", the same thing applies except you are being torn to shreds by a 115lb dog who will very likely have you on the ground before you even have a chance to react. There is a reason they are one of the top working dogs for police and military, how many of those have you heard of having their legs ripped off? I'm a big guy who is plenty strong but I never once thought that I could take out Cosmo if he was deadset on doing me harm. I'd put a years pay on him versus you but if you want to keep on believing you are superman then who am I to rain on your parade.

Oh no kidding!
I was a little stronger back then, 6'1" 240.
Those arm sleeves are designed to give a little so as to simulate an arm, and not break the teeth, etc. The shepherds hit so hard, the initial strike was like a 4' long 2x4 at a moderate swing. I say this with confidence, because we had a chunk of 2x4 there to illustrate the hit
Now fill in that hit with teeth on each side with enough bite force to squeeze through the reinforced sleeve.
Then there's the second and third and fourth hit in less than 3 seconds. The shepherds tend to " chop" rapidly, not bite and hold. The speed is incredible and you are trying to anticipate it.
The only dog to draw blood was this 114 pound shep that chopped up and off the end of the sleeve onto my upper arm before I had a clue.
Now these are not your average dog by any means, and the training is effective. A person can strategize about knives and punching or kicking an attacking dog and might have some success with an untrained animal. I think most people would be amazed at how fast they are, when it is their job. Our reactions are pitiful in comparison.

 

[Captante]

but there is no german shepard that can take me out

Friend of my had a fully attack-trained Shepherd who weighed in at around 145 lbs ... if he attacked full-tilt you or any other single unarmed person short of maybe Chuck Norris would be in serious trouble. You might survive but the amount of blood-loss would be substantial.

Now TWO adult-men would likely be a different story.


Edit: Why do you think perp's on the run from LEO's would actually pefer being shot to "the dog"?

 

[Mayne]

my brother-in-law said he could take out a mountain lion if it attacked him....lol

 

[Captante]

my brother-in-law said he could take out a mountain lion if it attacked him....lol

Talk about overconfidence ... I wouldn't give the same hypothetical single unarmed person I mentioned above much chance against an angry Ocelot or Bobcat never mind a mountain lion.

Problem is they have 5 ways to ruin you not just one like the Shepherd.

 

[Mayne]

Talk about overconfidence

can you imagine a 150 pound cat that totally is flipped out and intent on killing you....its gonna be a bad ending.