Woman's Dying Wish: Bush Defeated

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umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

You are retarded, plain and simple. Stop posting.

No. Care to add anything to the discussion or are you just a well seasoned 6000+ posts a$$hole?

Well seasoned 6000+ post asshole, if that makes you feel any better. I am just sick of people saying sh!t like that. I don't like Bush either, but to say he is the greatest threat to this country is foolish.

Thanks for adding to and not just bashing me. Makes more sense than to just pi$$ in like you did.

I personally feel that there is more friction between republican american citizens and democratic american citizens since the Iraqi war. Don't you feel it right now? As someone who firmly believes that Bush mislead us and consequently, 900+ soldiers have died, I think anyone who does NOT think Bush is the greatest threat to this country is equally foolish.

We'll see who the real fool is in November I guess.
 

Painman

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Well seasoned 6000+ post asshole, if that makes you feel any better. I am just sick of people saying sh!t like that. I don't like Bush either, but to say he is the greatest threat to this country is foolish.

Well, if your 6000+ post history consists of crap like:

Originally posted by: Excelsior
You are retarded, plain and simple. Stop posting.

Then we'll have to take your signal-to-noise ratio under consideration. Post count is sh!t, bro. I could throw my 27 month more senior join date up in your face but that is sh1t too.

Oh, and:

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Wtf. I am glad you are a libertarian, but blaming bush for worldwide terroism increasing post 9/11 is insane.

You don't appear to understand the LP posiition with much clarity. I suggest reading up.
 

DubyaDisciple

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

You are retarded, plain and simple. Stop posting.

No. Care to add anything to the discussion or are you just a well seasoned 6000+ posts a$$hole?

Well seasoned 6000+ post asshole, if that makes you feel any better. I am just sick of people saying sh!t like that. I don't like Bush either, but to say he is the greatest threat to this country is foolish.

Thanks for adding to and not just bashing me. Makes more sense than to just pi$$ in like you did.

I personally feel that there is more friction between republican american citizens and democratic american citizens since the Iraqi war. Don't you feel it right now? As someone who firmly believes that Bush mislead us and consequently, 900+ soldiers have died, I think anyone who does NOT think Bush is the greatest threat to this country is equally foolish.

We'll see who the real fool is in November I guess.

Yeah we will. As long as you usurping criminals dont try to steal it again.

You want a war to break out in the streets, keep up with the gay marriage BS, keep trying to raise our taxes, keep slicing up babies in the name of a "choice", and keep playing the race card.

Remember, we have all the guns.

NRA for life.
 

Painman

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Originally posted by: DubyaDisciple
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

You are retarded, plain and simple. Stop posting.

No. Care to add anything to the discussion or are you just a well seasoned 6000+ posts a$$hole?

Well seasoned 6000+ post asshole, if that makes you feel any better. I am just sick of people saying sh!t like that. I don't like Bush either, but to say he is the greatest threat to this country is foolish.

Thanks for adding to and not just bashing me. Makes more sense than to just pi$$ in like you did.

I personally feel that there is more friction between republican american citizens and democratic american citizens since the Iraqi war. Don't you feel it right now? As someone who firmly believes that Bush mislead us and consequently, 900+ soldiers have died, I think anyone who does NOT think Bush is the greatest threat to this country is equally foolish.

We'll see who the real fool is in November I guess.

Yeah we will. As long as you usurping criminals dont try to steal it again.

You want a war to break out in the streets, keep up with the gay marriage BS, keep trying to raise our taxes, keep slicing up babies in the name of a "choice", and keep playing the race card.

Remember, we have all the guns.

NRA for life.

Wow, I hope you set up this account for the sake of parody posting. Either way I predict your life expectancy here to be short.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: DubyaDisciple
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

You are retarded, plain and simple. Stop posting.

No. Care to add anything to the discussion or are you just a well seasoned 6000+ posts a$$hole?

Well seasoned 6000+ post asshole, if that makes you feel any better. I am just sick of people saying sh!t like that. I don't like Bush either, but to say he is the greatest threat to this country is foolish.

Thanks for adding to and not just bashing me. Makes more sense than to just pi$$ in like you did.

I personally feel that there is more friction between republican american citizens and democratic american citizens since the Iraqi war. Don't you feel it right now? As someone who firmly believes that Bush mislead us and consequently, 900+ soldiers have died, I think anyone who does NOT think Bush is the greatest threat to this country is equally foolish.

We'll see who the real fool is in November I guess.

Yeah we will. As long as you usurping criminals dont try to steal it again.

You want a war to break out in the streets, keep up with the gay marriage BS, keep trying to raise our taxes, keep slicing up babies in the name of a "choice", and keep playing the race card.

Remember, we have all the guns.

NRA for life.

I will almost miss you in the morning after your proxy account is banned

You really should have built up to this PPK. You blew your wad like an excited 13 year old. Shame...
 

DubyaDisciple

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: DubyaDisciple
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

You are retarded, plain and simple. Stop posting.

No. Care to add anything to the discussion or are you just a well seasoned 6000+ posts a$$hole?

Well seasoned 6000+ post asshole, if that makes you feel any better. I am just sick of people saying sh!t like that. I don't like Bush either, but to say he is the greatest threat to this country is foolish.

Thanks for adding to and not just bashing me. Makes more sense than to just pi$$ in like you did.

I personally feel that there is more friction between republican american citizens and democratic american citizens since the Iraqi war. Don't you feel it right now? As someone who firmly believes that Bush mislead us and consequently, 900+ soldiers have died, I think anyone who does NOT think Bush is the greatest threat to this country is equally foolish.

We'll see who the real fool is in November I guess.

Yeah we will. As long as you usurping criminals dont try to steal it again.

You want a war to break out in the streets, keep up with the gay marriage BS, keep trying to raise our taxes, keep slicing up babies in the name of a "choice", and keep playing the race card.

Remember, we have all the guns.

NRA for life.

I will almost miss you in the morning after your proxy account is banned

You really should have built up to this PPK. You blew your wad like an excited 13 year old. Shame...

Yet another example of liberal censorship. Be PROUD, young traitor.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: DubyaDisciple
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: DubyaDisciple
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

You are retarded, plain and simple. Stop posting.

No. Care to add anything to the discussion or are you just a well seasoned 6000+ posts a$$hole?

Well seasoned 6000+ post asshole, if that makes you feel any better. I am just sick of people saying sh!t like that. I don't like Bush either, but to say he is the greatest threat to this country is foolish.

Thanks for adding to and not just bashing me. Makes more sense than to just pi$$ in like you did.

I personally feel that there is more friction between republican american citizens and democratic american citizens since the Iraqi war. Don't you feel it right now? As someone who firmly believes that Bush mislead us and consequently, 900+ soldiers have died, I think anyone who does NOT think Bush is the greatest threat to this country is equally foolish.

We'll see who the real fool is in November I guess.

Yeah we will. As long as you usurping criminals dont try to steal it again.

You want a war to break out in the streets, keep up with the gay marriage BS, keep trying to raise our taxes, keep slicing up babies in the name of a "choice", and keep playing the race card.

Remember, we have all the guns.

NRA for life.

I will almost miss you in the morning after your proxy account is banned

You really should have built up to this PPK. You blew your wad like an excited 13 year old. Shame...

Yet another example of liberal censorship. Be PROUD, young traitor.

Zzzzzzz.
 

ToBeMe

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I by no means meant that them dying is right. I'm a pinko pacifist. I just forgot to hit the quote button from someone way up there that contested that it isn't children who are dying. And btw, no children dying?!?!?! Apparently Iraqi children don't count.

Nope, thnat's not true and not what was adresed...................the discussion was clearly about US soldiers whom were KIA and their ages and I merely addressed that statistic with a fact since I had recalled reading it recently.

Don't try to start something that just isn't there and won't happen. My replies have been direct and to the point without sarcasim and partisn BS.

I personally feel that there is more friction between republican american citizens and democratic american citizens since the Iraqi war. Don't you feel it right now? As someone who firmly believes that Bush mislead us and consequently, 900+ soldiers have died, I think anyone who does NOT think Bush is the greatest threat to this country is equally foolish

Perhaps here in AT and online there is more, but, in mainstream USA...............no. If anything what I hear most is that Bush is not great but nobody think much of Kerry either and overall, both sides wish there were other candidates. The greatest threat to the US is....................itself! The lawyers whom make laws, then also provide loopholes and show had to take advantage of them....................the partisn leardership on both sides who sling mud at each other............(whatever happend to "may the best man win" and running on your value to the country and good points instead of your opponents bad points and mistakes he's made?)......................the people because they've lost faith in their government (and I don't mean because of Bush or anyone in particluar......just overall). Those are the threats to this country not anyone in particular.

A lot of "mud slinging" goes on in here too! What about the facts presnted............comments stop when it's clear both sides are at fault..........................why? Because it's the truth and admitting it is to hard for many and it creates no partisn argument like so many thrive on.............................admitt it....................the whole government is at fault here and deserves blame if any is to be given........................the whole government, both sides need to be addressed that we don't like what their doing! If you think replacing Bush with kerry will solve anything, then you also believe a garden hose will put out an out of control forest fire becaause the whole governement is out of control....................not just one part and this goes back way before this president.....................
 

Gaard

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support AND both the senate and house had access and made their decsion with the exact same information supplied to the president
Can we get a definitive answer to the following question..."Did Congress, when they approved giving Bush the authority to go against Iraq, see all of the evidence that Bush did? Or were they simply fed the good parts...and given a sermon on par with Powell's totally bogus speech to the UN?"

The answers that I've seen so far on here run along partison lines. The right says "yes" and the left says "no". Does anyone know for sure? I'd sure like to see something that supports the claim that they did.

It just seems kind of odd to me that they would have access to all the evidence. There's a lot of members of Congress; if they all have access to secret intelligence, that would be dangerous, no?

Doesn't it seem logical, that if someone were trying to get something passed they would give out the info/intel that would support that passing and withhold the info/intel that would not?
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Painman
Wow. Ya know, I find it hard to look at that "Names of the dead" thread stickied up above because every time I look at it I see the names of 18, 19, 20, 21 year olds and the emotion wells up... I was that age once... I'm 35, going on 36 now... THESE ARE KIDS. Kids who love this country enough to give their lives for it, and want or need a boost so they can better it in civilian life. Kids who trust their leaders to make wise choices that affect their lives.

I for one have no patience with those who stake so much personal identity upon a partisan ideology, that they will cling to any justification (before the fact or after) for our troops' loss of life and limb, as long as it serves to prop up their idol. They'll even use the justification that their "idol", if wrong after all, still hasn't killed as many of our people as OBL has, even though it's a largely accepted fact that OBL received NO support whatsoever from the state of Iraq and its leader in carrying out the 9/11 attacks, let alone much of anything else. I find this as disturbing as I find it surreal.

Gotta go now... the rancid stench of self-serving cynicism here is so strong, I think I'm gonna puke. :|

Question, at what age would you consider someone not a "kid", for instance I saw a post by umbrella stating that he considers someone at age 27 to still be a "kid" yet by law 18+ is the age of consent and when one is no longer considered a minor? would you then be in favor or raising the bar and making it so people are considerd minors until they are 30+??

If these people were under 18 then I might feel you have a leg to stand on, but as it is now they ARE considered adults and they have the right to make decisions which effect their lives whether you like it or not...and in this case they chose, no one forced them to serve, and I can guarantee you many of them are very proud of their choice.
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: Gaard
support AND both the senate and house had access and made their decsion with the exact same information supplied to the president
Can we get a definitive answer to the following question..."Did Congress, when they approved giving Bush the authority to go against Iraq, see all of the evidence that Bush did? Or were they simply fed the good parts...and given a sermon on par with Powell's totally bogus speech to the UN?"

The answers that I've seen so far on here run along partison lines. The right says "yes" and the left says "no". Does anyone know for sure? I'd sure like to see something that supports the claim that they did.

It just seems kind of odd to me that they would have access to all the evidence. There's a lot of members of Congress; if they all have access to secret intelligence, that would be dangerous, no?

Doesn't it seem logical, that if someone were trying to get something passed they would give out the info/intel that would support that passing and withhold the info/intel that would not?

Actually, the House & Senate Majority/Minority leaders have access to the same exact material the President receives by law and then these leaders decide what material will be viewed and what is presented to the house/senate in session. Both sides participate and both side make the decsion. In this case in October 2002, Daschle stated overwhelming evidence was provided.............
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Originally posted by: Gaard
support AND both the senate and house had access and made their decsion with the exact same information supplied to the president
Can we get a definitive answer to the following question..."Did Congress, when they approved giving Bush the authority to go against Iraq, see all of the evidence that Bush did? Or were they simply fed the good parts...and given a sermon on par with Powell's totally bogus speech to the UN?"

The answers that I've seen so far on here run along partison lines. The right says "yes" and the left says "no". Does anyone know for sure? I'd sure like to see something that supports the claim that they did.

It just seems kind of odd to me that they would have access to all the evidence. There's a lot of members of Congress; if they all have access to secret intelligence, that would be dangerous, no?

Doesn't it seem logical, that if someone were trying to get something passed they would give out the info/intel that would support that passing and withhold the info/intel that would not?

Actually, the House & Senate Majority/Minority leaders have access to the same exact material the President receives by law and then these leaders decide what material will be viewed and what is presented to the house/senate in session. Both sides participate and both side make the decsion. In this case in October 2002, Daschle stated overwhelming evidence was provided.............


Thanks TBM. Could you expand on this phrase please..."and then these leaders decide what material will be viewed and what is presented to the house/senate in session." I'm curious to know what criteria they use to decide what can, and what can't, be viewed.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Painman
Wow. Ya know, I find it hard to look at that "Names of the dead" thread stickied up above because every time I look at it I see the names of 18, 19, 20, 21 year olds and the emotion wells up... I was that age once... I'm 35, going on 36 now... THESE ARE KIDS. Kids who love this country enough to give their lives for it, and want or need a boost so they can better it in civilian life. Kids who trust their leaders to make wise choices that affect their lives.

I for one have no patience with those who stake so much personal identity upon a partisan ideology, that they will cling to any justification (before the fact or after) for our troops' loss of life and limb, as long as it serves to prop up their idol. They'll even use the justification that their "idol", if wrong after all, still hasn't killed as many of our people as OBL has, even though it's a largely accepted fact that OBL received NO support whatsoever from the state of Iraq and its leader in carrying out the 9/11 attacks, let alone much of anything else. I find this as disturbing as I find it surreal.

Gotta go now... the rancid stench of self-serving cynicism here is so strong, I think I'm gonna puke. :|

Question, at what age would you consider someone not a "kid", for instance I saw a post by umbrella stating that he considers someone at age 27 to still be a "kid" yet by law 18+ is the age of consent and when one is no longer considered a minor? would you then be in favor or raising the bar and making it so people are considerd minors until they are 30+??

If these people were under 18 then I might feel you have a leg to stand on, but as it is now they ARE considered adults and they have the right to make decisions which effect their lives whether you like it or not...and in this case they chose, no one forced them to serve, and I can guarantee you many of them are very proud of their choice.


I seriously don't think the word kid is being used in a legal context here. I think it's more along the lines of the age difference...iow, if A is a lot older than B, then B is a kid according to A.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Gaard

I seriously don't think the word kid is being used in a legal context here. I think it's more along the lines of the age difference...iow, if A is a lot older than B, then B is a kid according to A.

Well then that is a matter of perception then isn't it? my question is when does someone stop being a "kid" to others or is it that they will never be considered "adult" to people who are older than them? personally I think the "kid" argument is rather weak especially since someone was nice enough to point out that in another thread that in some way or fashion everyone is someone's "kid"...these people made up their own minds to enlist plain and simple.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Gaard

I seriously don't think the word kid is being used in a legal context here. I think it's more along the lines of the age difference...iow, if A is a lot older than B, then B is a kid according to A.

Well then that is a matter of perception then isn't it? my question is when does someone stop being a "kid" to others or is it that they will never be considered "adult" to people who are older than them? personally I think the "kid" argument is rather weak especially since someone was nice enough to point out that in another thread that in some way or fashion everyone is someone's "kid"...these people made up their own minds to enlist plain and simple.


I think you're under the false impression that when someone refers to someone as being a kid, it must be that they don't consider the kid to be an adult.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

Since you libs seem to like throwing body counts around.. Bush has only 'killed' 900+ of our soldiers.. while Osama has killed 3000+ of our citizens.. I'm assuming you feel like Bush will catch up in the murder column?

Unless you are defining threat differently than I am...

:roll:
I agree with umbrella39. At this moment in history, George W. Bush and his minions are the single greatest threat to the United States of America. While the loss of lives is tragic, they do not threaten America. America is about freedom and opportunity for all. America is about principles, about justice, about equality. OBL killed more American citizens, but GWB poses a far greater threat to America herself.

OBL wants to destroy America, and President George W. Bush is the best tool he has for doing it.
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Originally posted by: Gaard
support AND both the senate and house had access and made their decsion with the exact same information supplied to the president
Can we get a definitive answer to the following question..."Did Congress, when they approved giving Bush the authority to go against Iraq, see all of the evidence that Bush did? Or were they simply fed the good parts...and given a sermon on par with Powell's totally bogus speech to the UN?"

The answers that I've seen so far on here run along partison lines. The right says "yes" and the left says "no". Does anyone know for sure? I'd sure like to see something that supports the claim that they did.

It just seems kind of odd to me that they would have access to all the evidence. There's a lot of members of Congress; if they all have access to secret intelligence, that would be dangerous, no?

Doesn't it seem logical, that if someone were trying to get something passed they would give out the info/intel that would support that passing and withhold the info/intel that would not?

Actually, the House & Senate Majority/Minority leaders have access to the same exact material the President receives by law and then these leaders decide what material will be viewed and what is presented to the house/senate in session. Both sides participate and both side make the decsion. In this case in October 2002, Daschle stated overwhelming evidence was provided.............


Thanks TBM. Could you expand on this phrase please..."and then these leaders decide what material will be viewed and what is presented to the house/senate in session." I'm curious to know what criteria they use to decide what can, and what can't, be viewed.

Actually......I'm not positive what criteria is used to determine this and it seems very difficult to find online........I'd say guidelines are in place that determine what can and can not be presented to the full congress by security officials and this policy has probably remained static since at least 9-11 if not before but I know much was changed post 9-11...............
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

Since you libs seem to like throwing body counts around.. Bush has only 'killed' 900+ of our soldiers.. while Osama has killed 3000+ of our citizens.. I'm assuming you feel like Bush will catch up in the murder column?

Unless you are defining threat differently than I am...

:roll:
I agree with umbrella39. At this moment in history, George W. Bush and his minions are the single greatest threat to the United States of America. While the loss of lives is tragic, they do not threaten America. America is about freedom and opportunity for all. America is about principles, about justice, about equality. OBL killed more American citizens, but GWB poses a far greater threat to America herself.

OBL wants to destroy America, and President George W. Bush is the best tool he has for doing it.

I couldn't agree more with you. Clinton with all his ass-grabbing did not divide the country to the degree that it is torn now. Those of us who think we were willfully mislead will surely agree that there is no greater threat than the man at the top, whoever that happens to be. All the uniting we saw in the wake of 9/11 when there were no dems or reps, just Americans must have scared the crap out of someone in high power because within a few short years we are all at each others throats again.
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

Since you libs seem to like throwing body counts around.. Bush has only 'killed' 900+ of our soldiers.. while Osama has killed 3000+ of our citizens.. I'm assuming you feel like Bush will catch up in the murder column?

Unless you are defining threat differently than I am...

:roll:
I agree with umbrella39. At this moment in history, George W. Bush and his minions are the single greatest threat to the United States of America. While the loss of lives is tragic, they do not threaten America. America is about freedom and opportunity for all. America is about principles, about justice, about equality. OBL killed more American citizens, but GWB poses a far greater threat to America herself.

OBL wants to destroy America, and President George W. Bush is the best tool he has for doing it.

Well, that's fine then if that's how you wish to view things, but, then you should reallize that you must also include the CIA/FBI/House/Senate/Pentagon/Joint Cheifs/former administrations because all of these have a hand in and are responsible for what happens in our country...................can you not see that it is not a single person or a single party.........................they need you to believe this because they want their party in control especially during this election year, but, the bottom line is........no one man can make policy on his own.............
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

Since you libs seem to like throwing body counts around.. Bush has only 'killed' 900+ of our soldiers.. while Osama has killed 3000+ of our citizens.. I'm assuming you feel like Bush will catch up in the murder column?

Unless you are defining threat differently than I am...

:roll:
I agree with umbrella39. At this moment in history, George W. Bush and his minions are the single greatest threat to the United States of America. While the loss of lives is tragic, they do not threaten America. America is about freedom and opportunity for all. America is about principles, about justice, about equality. OBL killed more American citizens, but GWB poses a far greater threat to America herself.

OBL wants to destroy America, and President George W. Bush is the best tool he has for doing it.

I couldn't agree more with you. Clinton with all his ass-grabbing did not divide the country to the degree that it is torn now. Those of us who think we were willfully mislead will surely agree that there is no greater threat than the man at the top, whoever that happens to be. All the uniting we saw in the wake of 9/11 when there were no dems or reps, just Americans must have scared the crap out of someone in high power because within a few short years we are all at each others throats again.

I'll still maintain that Americans as a whole are not nearly divided as it appears in here................Americans as a whole are just plain sick of politicians and politics..............
 

Gaard

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This statement is stolen from another site and I was just wondering if it's correct ...
Remember, at the time, Bush claimed that the war was not inevitable and this resolution was needed to force the inspectors to be able to do their job. Which in fact it was successful in doing, and Kerry could easily argue that he made the right decision, and Bush the wrong one.
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: Gaard
This statement is stolen from another site and I was just wondering if it's correct ...
Remember, at the time, Bush claimed that the war was not inevitable and this resolution was needed to force the inspectors to be able to do their job. Which in fact it was successful in doing, and Kerry could easily argue that he made the right decision, and Bush the wrong one.

Read the wording of the final resolution as overwhelmingly passed by both the House and Senate (posted above in this thread) and tell me each and every one of them did not know fully that use of our military was not immenent.......................
 

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Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Originally posted by: Gaard
This statement is stolen from another site and I was just wondering if it's correct ...
Remember, at the time, Bush claimed that the war was not inevitable and this resolution was needed to force the inspectors to be able to do their job. Which in fact it was successful in doing, and Kerry could easily argue that he made the right decision, and Bush the wrong one.

Read the wording of the final resolution as overwhelmingly passed by both the House and Senate (posted above in this thread) and tell me each and every one of them did not know fully that use of our military was not immenent.......................

Sorry, read your post wrong.
 
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