Woman's Dying Wish: Bush Defeated

Crimson

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Wow.. that is just wrong.. my dying wishes would be for my family to be safe, my friends, etc..
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Wow.. that is just wrong.. my dying wishes would be for my family to be safe, my friends, etc..

Wrong? I think her dying wish WAS for her family and friends to be safe. How better than to remove the greatest threat to this country.
 

Yo Ma Ma

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Coincidentally, the presiding rabbi, Brett Goldstein, is a registered Democrat but is voting for Bush, and he questioned the timing of Abbey's message at such a sensitive time.
 

ToBeMe

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There's a woman with her priorities mixed up...................

Politics are of no concern to her now..................:roll:
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Crimson
Wow.. that is just wrong.. my dying wishes would be for my family to be safe, my friends, etc..

Wrong? I think her dying wish WAS for her family and friends to be safe. How better than to remove the greatest threat to this country.

:roll:
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Crimson
Wow.. that is just wrong.. my dying wishes would be for my family to be safe, my friends, etc..

Wrong? I think her dying wish WAS for her family and friends to be safe. How better than to remove the greatest threat to this country.

Just for the record, you ARE saying that George Bush is _THE_ greatest threat to this country? Just want to clarify.
 

umbrella39

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You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

Since you libs seem to like throwing body counts around.. Bush has only 'killed' 900+ of our soldiers.. while Osama has killed 3000+ of our citizens.. I'm assuming you feel like Bush will catch up in the murder column?

Unless you are defining threat differently than I am...

:roll:
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

Since you libs seem to like throwing body counts around.. Bush has only 'killed' 900+ of our soldiers.. while Osama has killed 3000+ of our citizens.. I'm assuming you feel like Bush will catch up in the murder column?

Unless you are defining threat differently than I am...

:roll:

Nice roll. Try again. Let me try and explain this to you in simple conservative terms:

Iraq not= Osama (Nice try and comparing the two.. NOT)

Iraq war = Lies (Fact)

900+ Dead Soldiers = Bush hands are full of blood (Will burn in hell for sure)

The End.





:roll:
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.



:roll:



And if kerry wins...................4 years from now the same will be said of Kerry by those opposing him..............

Beyond that, I'm no huge Bush fan, but, I'm not so sure kerry will fare much if any better................
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.



:roll:



And if kerry wins...................4 years from now the same will be said of Kerry by those opposing him..............

Beyond that, I'm no huge Bush fan, but, I'm not so sure kerry will fare much if any better................

I don't think it will be said of John Kerry that he sent KIDS to Iraq to die for his lies. I don't think we have to worry about interns falling for him either. I think Kerry will do a great job as commander in chief. And God forbid that Kerry looses and we have to endure a Hillary presidency because that is where we might all be headed in 4 years. It is a LEAST a possibility. So be careful with wishes.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Wow.. that is just wrong.. my dying wishes would be for my family to be safe, my friends, etc..
It was her life,her death, and her particular passion. It isn't for you to pass judgement on. Your dying wishes are your dying wishes, bully for you. But you're not God, nor are you the arbiter of other people's lives or beliefs.
[In her funeral notice, instead of the usual request for cards and flowers, was:] "You can honor Joan's values by voting against George Bush and contributing to a liberal or Democratic cause."

Abbey's nephew, Martin Shapiro, said, "What she cared most about was improving circumstances in this country... getting rid of George Bush and making this a better country for all people."

"It was her (Abbey's) essence. It was her core value to try to see this country become a better place and become a more just society. And I think that was the last word she'd want to leave."
That's it. That says it all. You may not like it, but try to have some respect for this now dead woman.

Abbey Shapiro, I hear you!



 

bjc112

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

Since you libs seem to like throwing body counts around.. Bush has only 'killed' 900+ of our soldiers.. while Osama has killed 3000+ of our citizens.. I'm assuming you feel like Bush will catch up in the murder column?

Unless you are defining threat differently than I am...

:roll:

Nice roll. Try again. Let me try and explain this to you in simple conservative terms:

Iraq not= Osama (Nice try and comparing the two.. NOT)

Iraq war = Lies (Fact)

900+ Dead Soldiers = Bush hands are full of blood (Will burn in hell for sure)

The End.





:roll:


Iraq was a lie? Well then i was duped, and deceived by John Kerry

The John Kerry who said in a video we should go after Iraq reguardless of the 9/11 commissions outcome.

The John Kerry who was a critic of the clinton admin. for not putting more heat on Iraq..

Or the John Kerry who said wheres the backbone of France and Russia, but not bows before them...

Gives us a break.

The End.
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.



:roll:



And if kerry wins...................4 years from now the same will be said of Kerry by those opposing him..............

Beyond that, I'm no huge Bush fan, but, I'm not so sure kerry will fare much if any better................

I don't think it will be said of John Kerry that he sent KIDS to Iraq to die for his lies. I don't think we have to worry about interns falling for him either. I think Kerry will do a great job as commander in chief. And God forbid that Kerry looses and we have to endure a Hillary presidency because that is where we might all be headed in 4 years. It is a LEAST a possibility. So be careful with wishes.

I sure didn't wish that but agree, but, as long as we're attempting to make valid points............

I don't think it will be said of John Kerry that he sent KIDS to Iraq to die for his lies.

As I've pointed out before and is also a fact................remember whom ALL sent our military there................

Both the House & Senate overwhelmingly approved the measures that sent the troops to Iraq with or without UN support AND both the senate and house had access and made their decsion with the exact same information supplied to the president......................then add to that the fact that the groundwork for a military invasion was prepared in '98 - '99 with the bill created by then president Clinton making official US policy regime change in Iraq at any/all costs including military invasion...................not pretty, but factual and remember all this when casting your votes for you congressmen...................
 

bjc112

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As I've pointed out before and is also a fact................remember whom ALL sent our military there................

Both the House & Senate overwhelmingly approved the measures that sent the troops to Iraq with or without UN support AND both the senate and house had access and made their decsion with the exact same information supplied to the president......................then add to that the fact that the groundwork for a military invasion was prepared in '98 - '99 with the bill created by then president Clinton making official US policy regime change in Iraq at any/all costs including military invasion...................not pretty, but factual and remember all this when casting your votes for you congressmen...................

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Case closed.
 

umbrella39

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That being said and to the End, I firmly believe Bush had every intention on invading Iraq before 9/11. He just needed a reason. Nothing will ever sway my opinion. IMHO he knew the intel was bogus and went ahead anyway. I don't remember congress declaring war. He will have to meet his maker one day and I would not want to be him on that day.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: bjc112
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: umbrella39
You bet your sweet a$$ that is what I mean. This country will not survive 4 more years of Bush. The great uniter has driven a bigger wedge between the 2 parties than an 8-armed Bill Clinton ever could.

Since you libs seem to like throwing body counts around.. Bush has only 'killed' 900+ of our soldiers.. while Osama has killed 3000+ of our citizens.. I'm assuming you feel like Bush will catch up in the murder column?

Unless you are defining threat differently than I am...

:roll:

Nice roll. Try again. Let me try and explain this to you in simple conservative terms:

Iraq not= Osama (Nice try and comparing the two.. NOT)

Iraq war = Lies (Fact)

900+ Dead Soldiers = Bush hands are full of blood (Will burn in hell for sure)

The End.





:roll:


Iraq was a lie? Well then i was duped, and deceived by John Kerry

The John Kerry who said in a video we should go after Iraq reguardless of the 9/11 commissions outcome.

The John Kerry who was a critic of the clinton admin. for not putting more heat on Iraq..

Or the John Kerry who said wheres the backbone of France and Russia, but not bows before them...

Gives us a break.

The End.

:roll:

Nice try. Blame Kerry. Not buying it and neither will the American public in November. Have a nice 4 years, I know I will. :thumbsup:
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
That being said and to the End, I firmly believe Bush had every intention on invading Iraq before 9/11. He just needed a reason. Nothing will ever sway my opinion. IMHO he knew the intel was bogus and went ahead anyway. I don't remember congress declaring war. He will have to meet his maker one day and I would not want to be him on that day.

You know what............I don't know either..........you may be correct...........but you know what else..................because of the bill passed in '98...............even if he was planning on removing Saddam at that time, he was following exactly what was laid out by said bill in 1998................take my word for it, if Kerry makes a big deal out of us going into Iraq at all (which he won't) this as well as the votes in each case will become a major issue!

EDIT: I didn't want you to mistake what I'm saying............I'm not saying it was right, or Bush is/was right........what I'm saying is both parties.........all of them................they'll do whatever is best for them and the lobbiests which support them to pad their pockets and prolong their career..............
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Originally posted by: umbrella39
That being said and to the End, I firmly believe Bush had every intention on invading Iraq before 9/11. He just needed a reason. Nothing will ever sway my opinion. IMHO he knew the intel was bogus and went ahead anyway. I don't remember congress declaring war. He will have to meet his maker one day and I would not want to be him on that day.

You know what............I don't know either..........you may be correct...........but you know what else..................because of the bill passed in '98...............even if he was planning on removing Saddam at that time, he was following exactly what was laid out by said bill in 1998................take my word for it, if Kerry makes a big deal out of us going into Iraq at all (which he won't) this as well as the votes in each case will become a major issue!

Somehow I doubt we have heard the last of whoring this war from either side. One side says we did the world a favor so the ends justifies the means under any circumstances and the other side will insist until November Bush got it wrong. The peeps will have to decide for themselves. Nice to have a reasonible discussion with ya. :thumbsup:
 

Hossenfeffer

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Originally posted by: bjc112
As I've pointed out before and is also a fact................remember whom ALL sent our military there................

Both the House & Senate overwhelmingly approved the measures that sent the troops to Iraq with or without UN support AND both the senate and house had access and made their decsion with the exact same information supplied to the president......................then add to that the fact that the groundwork for a military invasion was prepared in '98 - '99 with the bill created by then president Clinton making official US policy regime change in Iraq at any/all costs including military invasion...................not pretty, but factual and remember all this when casting your votes for you congressmen...................

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Case closed.

Psst, the house and senate approved measures that approved military action IF diplomacy and weapons inspections had failed. They didn't fail.
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Originally posted by: bjc112
As I've pointed out before and is also a fact................remember whom ALL sent our military there................

Both the House & Senate overwhelmingly approved the measures that sent the troops to Iraq with or without UN support AND both the senate and house had access and made their decsion with the exact same information supplied to the president......................then add to that the fact that the groundwork for a military invasion was prepared in '98 - '99 with the bill created by then president Clinton making official US policy regime change in Iraq at any/all costs including military invasion...................not pretty, but factual and remember all this when casting your votes for you congressmen...................

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Case closed.

Psst, the house and senate approved measures that approved military action IF diplomacy and weapons inspections had failed. They didn't fail.

Psst......you're wrong!

I've got the exact wording in another thread from earlier...................let me go retreive it..........
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Crimson
Wow.. that is just wrong.. my dying wishes would be for my family to be safe, my friends, etc..
It was her life,her death, and her particular passion. It isn't for you to pass judgement on. Your dying wishes are your dying wishes, bully for you. But you're not God, nor are you the arbiter of other people's lives or beliefs.
[In her funeral notice, instead of the usual request for cards and flowers, was:] "You can honor Joan's values by voting against George Bush and contributing to a liberal or Democratic cause."

Abbey's nephew, Martin Shapiro, said, "What she cared most about was improving circumstances in this country... getting rid of George Bush and making this a better country for all people."

"It was her (Abbey's) essence. It was her core value to try to see this country become a better place and become a more just society. And I think that was the last word she'd want to leave."
That's it. That says it all. You may not like it, but try to have some respect for this now dead woman.

Abbey Shapiro, I hear you!




The fact that should puts politics before her family, tells me that she is not worthy of my respect. No flower here.. Hope her hatred of Bush gets her some somewhere in the afterlife.. unfortunately, I don't think it does.
 
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