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Lifer
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To be fair, the owner(s) of the company doesn't really have a way to really guarantee that someone at their company won't sexually harass or be accused of it. The only way to be absolutely sure that you aren't liable is to make it an all male or female workplace.

And then hire Kevin Spacey?
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
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Harassment arbitration clause.

That aside, this could be a wake up call for businesses to stop hiring attractive women based on their looks. Attractiveness is part personal maintenance but also part how you dress and act so if a woman wants to convey that, it is unprofessional and makes them an unsuitable candidate for the position.

On the other hand I'm old school. If a woman wants to exude sexuality and then complains that others react to it, it's a bit like holding a steak in front of a dog and complaining that you didn't give the dog permission to lunge for it. Some guys are dogs, and some women are (nevermind, lol). Solution is don't tempt the dog.

You can argue that it shouldn't have to be that way but it is that way. There will always be a certain % of the population with worse self control than everyone else.

 
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To be fair, the owner(s) of the company doesn't really have a way to really guarantee that someone at their company won't sexually harass or be accused of it. The only way to be absolutely sure that you aren't liable is to make it an all male or female workplace.
No. The way to ensure that you are not liable is to comply with laws w/r/t employer obligations and liability for sexual harassment. (i.e., clear written policies, training, HR reporting processes, etc.) Then you're not liable for your employees being pervy assholes.

Small business? Don't like reading? Fine - then do whatever you want and keep your mouth shut: same applies if you don't want to hire a minority, a republican, a gay person, a Wiccan, whatever. STFU and get away with shit. Post it on Facebook and experience consequences.
 

pcgeek11

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That's much more likely than a company really deciding to violate federal law and intentionally get rid of all of their female employees, while hiring only men from now on.

He didn't say they were getting rid of the females that were already hired. Just not hiring any more.

You are being naive if you think that #metoo is not having an effect on the employment of females. I will say that they are stupid if the make statements as said in the OP.
 

destrekor

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He didn't say they were getting rid of the females that were already hired. Just not hiring any more.

You are being naive if you think that #metoo is not having an effect on the employment of females. I will say that they are stupid if the make statements as said in the OP.

I may be jumping to conclusions I might not ordinarily reach on the topic, because I haven't applied a ton of thought into this prediction, but I suspect you are right and I think it may be a good thing in the long term.

It sucks if there will truly be lowered female hiring, but that won't lost long because of the negative repercussions that will bring as well. And many larger companies are going to very carefully toe the line because they've probably already gotten into trouble for their hiring practices, so they can't appear to be taking a slide backward.

But the obvious conclusion is that long-term trend might get more women hired, certainly no fewer, and it will also continue to push awareness and new workplace training.

I find the one story some posts up where a woman is annoyed because she won't get hit on anymore. Last time I checked, that was the thing the vast majority of women wanted to see in the workplace. I think the only ones who will be annoyed about more harassment awareness are the office sluts who crave the attention. Also, there are plenty of ways to "hit on" someone without crossing the line.

Changing workplace culture, and the broader cultural zeitgeist, is a long-term fight, and while there may be a slide backward in some respects in the short-term, those I think will be very slight and more of a blip than anything breaking the trend.
 

mindless1

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To be fair, the owner(s) of the company doesn't really have a way to really guarantee that someone at their company won't sexually harass or be accused of it. The only way to be absolutely sure that you aren't liable is to make it an all male or female workplace.

That's no way to be sure, unless they discriminate against LGBT too. And puppies. Nobody wants a puppy humping their leg while they're trying to get on facebook at work.
 

ImpulsE69

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Oh come on...there is no amount of 'sexual harassment' training that is going to stop those who are going to do from doing. People are assholes.
 
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mindless1

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Wonder what planet the producer of that video is from. I've seen women (girls) do all of that except for starting off an unsolicited, (completely) nude pic exchange. It's not so rare, especially when two or more women are congregating.
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
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Wonder what planet the producer of that video is from. I've seen women (girls) do all of that except for starting off an unsolicited, (completely) nude pic exchange. It's not so rare, especially when two or more women are congregating.

So you're really saying that girls cat call dudes more than dudes cat call?

I just feel like you're trying to troll now.
 

mindless1

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So you're really saying that girls cat call dudes more than dudes cat call?

I just feel like you're trying to troll now.
I wrote nothing about "more", are YOU just trolling?

What I'm really saying is what I wrote. The video producer is either ignorant or just aiming for youtube traffic to suggest that women don't do those things. The video was not "what if women did this more than men". It was "If girls hit on guys like guys hit on girls" when girls DO hit on guys like that... maybe it's mostly the trashy women, but the same could be said about the men who do it.
 

KB

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I have heard people say they will only hire straight young white male athiests because they are the only unprotected class so they can fire them without fear of lawsuit. Part of me is appalled but when I hear stories like this I can also see where they are coming from.
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
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I wrote nothing about "more", are YOU just trolling?

What I'm really saying is what I wrote. The video producer is either ignorant or just aiming for youtube traffic to suggest that women don't do those things. The video was not "what if women did this more than men". It was "If girls hit on guys like guys hit on girls" when girls DO hit on guys like that... maybe it's mostly the trashy women, but the same could be said about the men who do it.

Sure but don't you agree that it's a hugely disproportionate amount?
 

Zanovar

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rebecca linares=women hires.great ass.Didi i type that or just think it.
 

13Gigatons

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Men will always harass women and sometimes women will harass men (and other women). Those robots can't arrive fast enough.
 

DaveSimmons

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Men will always harass women and sometimes women will harass men (and other women). Those robots can't arrive fast enough.

Good point, this allegedly non-imaginary company had better not hire any men either, in case some of them are gay.
 

Carson Dyle

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We were told that all our branches are doing this and the three year goal is to reduce female employees to around 5% or less. All the standard cautions about firing and hiring due to discrimination were made.

How cool is your company that you can keep memos like this from being seen by all the female employees?

This sounds like total bullshit, and not something being handed down by management, but rather something being whispered by old guys at the water cooler. "Yeah, we're gonna take back this company, make it just like it was in 1990."

Thank you Trump.
 

FelixDeCat

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I dont know why, but women make better sandwiches at Subway. Everytime I go there if a chick is not making it, Im not eating it.
 

shortylickens

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Couldn't the company have achieved the same goal with no more male hires?

No NEW male hires?

No, it wouldnt work.


If you had a company with 5000 men and one woman, there would be bucketloads of harassment complaints.

If you had a company with 5000 women and one man, there would be bucketloads of harassment complaints.

Its just the way Americans are. We're not very nice people, even at work. Better to just deal with things on a case-by-case basis with HR, and try to train people to behave better than they are naturally inclined. If they need motivation, fines and terminations will probably work better than trying to reinvent society.
 
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I call this BS. If it were true AND in the USA then the poster needs to contact the Fed because of discrimination based on sex, which is illegal.
 
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