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Skunk-Works

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Yeah - that "#metoo bullshit"

How dare those stupid broads stand up for themselves and demand to be treated like equal human beings. I don't even get how they have time to do this... I mean they have that cooking and cleaning and fetching my smoking jacket to juggle.


I guess you missed my post on how this #Metoo campaign was nothing more than a call for victim hood. It should have been something like #Neveragain. Why do we all have to relish in self-pity and victim hood? It seems we relish in perceived unequal treatment or something. Combine that with the no body gets first place and all are winners and there are no losers and this self-righteousness. What exactly does a damn hashtag accomplish anyway?
 

Homerboy

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I guess you missed my post on how this #Metoo campaign was nothing more than a call for victim hood. It should have been something like #Neveragain. Why do we all have to relish in self-pity and victim hood? It seems we relish in perceived unequal treatment or something. Combine that with the no body gets first place and all are winners and there are no losers and this self-righteousness. What exactly does a damn hashtag accomplish anyway?

I saw your post on "victim-hood".
It's not "victim-hood" and "self-pity". It's called empathy.
You've really missed the entire fucking point.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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To be fair, the owner(s) of the company doesn't really have a way to really guarantee that someone at their company won't sexually harass or be accused of it. The only way to be absolutely sure that you aren't liable is to make it an all male or female workplace.
There are guys who harrass guys and there are women who harrass women. This does not guarantee anything.
 
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BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I'm feeling harassed by your profile pic. What happened to Mr. Pinny Head?
Too "smiley."
Only one photo exists where I am smiling, and the wife has agreed to never share that photo with anybody outside of the house. I have trust in her.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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There are guys who harrass guys and there are women who harrass women. This does not guarantee anything.

Yeah but society sees them more on equal ground so your company is far less likely to get WTFowned in the media and you aren't as likely to get completely hosed in lawsuits. Without googling can you recall a single case in the media about guy on guy or girl on girl sexual harassment?
 

TallBill

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Yeah but society sees them more on equal ground so your company is far less likely to get WTFowned in the media and you aren't as likely to get completely hosed in lawsuits. Without googling can you recall a single case in the media about guy on guy or girl on girl sexual harassment?

Men were not included in me too whatsoever. This doesn't hurt my feelings, but something to ponder. I had a facebook sociopath accuse me of being part of the rape culture by pointing this out. I responded that I had been sexually assaulted by women at work many times, which is true. I would definitely agree that the biggest problem is women being the victim by male aggressors but it isn't the only situation.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Spend $200k and 12 years in med school and you can see them all day.

whoa, 12 years in med school? I don't think I want to see the physician that takes 12 years to finish med school...much less finishes from a school that actually allows them to stick around for that long.
 

Rifter

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Oct 9, 1999
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His own people ran him out of town. You are forgetting a week later party president was ousted too. Power play facilitated by accusations. Brown pissed on nomination process of a few ridings and grassroot got pissed. Inflated memberships is also an issue. Let's see what happens now.

Way to make the election interesting. I thought PC has it in the bag, now not so much.


I know his own people ran him out, thats not the issue. The issue is they did it with no concrete evidence, not only that they did it based on fake news/malfeasance as it now it turns out that one of the accusers has admitted to lying, the "friend" who supposedly drove her to his house on that night has come out to say that never happened and that if she tried to get him to drive her he would not have done so anyways, and one of the accusers just happens to be in a relationship with the head of the news outlet who ran the original story but im sure thats just a massive coincidence.

This is the problem with this whole movement, no one bothers to do any fact checking at all and people careers/lives are being ruined by nothing more than fake news.

Good things are happening with this movement, but its being overshadowed by the inncocent people who are also getting ruined over it.

People really need to start taking a evidence based approach or this is nothing more than a bunch of SJW's on a witch hunt.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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I agree that people shouldn't have their lives or careers ruined without evidence. It even goes beyond just your career being ruined, after you are very publicly accused of sexual harassment you are basically unhirable anywhere. I doubt a guy with a masters could even get a job at McDonald's. The small guy/not famous or holding a public position probably just loses a reference which could very well be career-ending too. While I am not saying that even a small portion of the accusations are this but currently it is way too easy for someone or a few someones to ruin a person simply because they don't like them or don't like their politics or the way they do their hair, etc...

OTOH a lot of these accusations are from quite a while ago and some of the accusers had very good reasons for not reporting it when it happened. I don't really have a good answer that is fair to all parties.
 

GregGreen

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Dec 5, 2000
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This thread started with misogyny and it really delivered. *claps* smh. I'm really impressed how quickly we got to xenophobia too. *claps again*
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
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This thread started with misogyny and it really delivered. *claps* smh. I'm really impressed how quickly we got to xenophobia too. *claps again*

LOL. Well I think we all agree it's an issue, but no one agrees on the solution. Anyone who thinks the OP is lying is pretty naive in how business works. Laws or no laws, people figure out ways around things. There is no one thing fits all solution, and no matter how bad people want to say "just don't do it", that isn't how it works. You can either pretend that's the only solution and continue playing the victim, or take things into your own hands and say no more. The #metoo movement isn't solving anything, because 'awareness' movements are nothing more than media blitzes that fade away. Again, nothing is more naive and short sited than saying "just don't do it". That's works as well as the 10 commandments. Even if something like catcalling a woman walking down the road got you the death penalty, there'd still be people who did it.
 
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Harassment arbitration clause.

That aside, this could be a wake up call for businesses to stop hiring attractive women based on their looks. Attractiveness is part personal maintenance but also part how you dress and act so if a woman wants to convey that, it is unprofessional and makes them an unsuitable candidate for the position.

On the other hand I'm old school. If a woman wants to exude sexuality and then complains that others react to it, it's a bit like holding a steak in front of a dog and complaining that you didn't give the dog permission to lunge for it. Some guys are dogs, and some women are (nevermind, lol). Solution is don't tempt the dog.

You can argue that it shouldn't have to be that way but it is that way. There will always be a certain % of the population with worse self control than everyone else.


See, now you're getting into the scenarios where bosses tell their women employees not to dress so slutty... Put on a bra, don't show so much cleavage, etc... Then you get into the whole "It's MY Body, I can dress how I want but that doesn't mean you have the right to check me out" debacle as well.

Normally in life everything is a 2-way street but with feminism it's one-sided even when it conflicts with the original point.
 
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No No and fucking no!!!! You know the way to make sure that women do not file any harassment claims? You do not harass women. Treat them as equals. The thought of "Hey we can't hire a woman here because Joe is going to say something to them". To me the answer is simple, you get rid of Joe.

I am glad the Metoo movement is happening and that my daughter might not have to worry about the asshole Joe's in the world. The Metoo movement is not self centered, it stands for "That bullshit happened to Me Too and it is time to stop it"

Yes yes, and one day we can walk down the street without being raped, robbed, killed, harassed, or die from a tornado. Keep living in your pixie dust dream land of unicorns and rainbows where we all live in harmony holding hands and singing lullabies as Ackbar Jihad comes in and has no problem with you being an atheist that dresses slutty in revealing clothing. I'm sure we will have that one of these days.
 
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