Why does everyone keep saying that since Nvidia's making it, the nforce will be so stable and high performing? This is their first foray into the mobo market, so compare it to their first foray into the 3D video card market, not their 3rd and 4th generation cards. Their first 'sort of 3D' video card, the NV1, was utter crap. It used some funky quadratic texture mapping scheme(instead of just polygons) that was never supported by anyone, and had some half-a$$ed playback-only sound processor onboard. The NV2, their second attempt, was even worse. The only reason Nvidia didn't go under after the NV1 was because Sega funded their research into the NV2, which Sega actually dropped in favor of using a PowerVR chip on their console. So with their last dying breath, they made the RIVA 128, which actually sold. The 128 had the ugliest image quality of any 3D card I've ever seen (textures literally fell off their polygons), but it gave frame rates comparable to a Voodoo, and it was a full 2D/3D card, and not a daughter card. This allowed them to score OEM deals with Dell, Gateway, etc, which eventually led to their financial sucess. The TNT was nvidia's first 'good' 3D card, and this took them 4 iterations to get to. Even the TNT was much slower than it was hyped to be, and it wasn't until the TNT2 Ultra that the TNT line started performing like it was capable of. The moral of the story is that contrary to what most people seem to think, nvidia only got where their are today in the graphics market through trial and error. Expect the same of the nforce; it will be innovative, but don't expect it to set a new standard for stability or performance. Around the time nforce 4 is released, watch out, cus they will have all the kinks worked out by then. Just my pair o' pennies.