WOOT!!! NOT GUILTY!!!

[Taejin]

should you even be posting about the circumstances on these forums?

 

[boomhower]

should you even be posting about the circumstances on these forums?

He's been found not guilty. He didn't commit a crime so he can talk about it all he wants, hell even if he did he can't be tried again due to double jeopardy,.

 

[MrDaniel]

i think he's saying more about the fact that these aren't that kind of forum. and it isn't. i think i've said all there is to say about it besides that i'm sorry the poor bastard died.

yaknowtho, sometimes i think about those few seconds before i fired at the blur smaking my head into the street. i didn't want to kill him but there isn't a single more lethal shot that gun could have made. both lungs and two ventricals of his heart. the bullet stoped on a rib without an exit wound causing all the blood to surge into his lungs. the only blood found at the scene was my own. hell, no one even knew anyone was shot untill i tried to get ppl to call 911.

unless anyone has anything else to say about it, i have nothing else to say here.

 

[irishScott]

He's been found not guilty. He didn't commit a crime so he can talk about it all he wants, hell even if he did he can't be tried again due to double jeopardy,.

He just admitted to carrying an illegally concealed weapon. How is that not a crime, and was he tried for that? Don't get me wrong I'm glad he apparently used it wisely and that's all I need to let him keep carrying it, but I'm not the law.

 

[MrDaniel]

He just admitted to carrying an illegally concealed weapon. How is that not a crime.

i already explained that. it's on page 2.

but here i'll c/p
the lawyer said something about that. it was a long time ago but i think it had to do with having to prosecute the most severe crime first. after i was found not guilty on that charge they can't really charge me with carrying a concealed weapon cuz that would be an attempt to circumvent my right to self defense. had they tried it would have gone to the state supreme court and wisconsin would had become an unregulated concealed carry state. i proved my use of lethal force in self defense. they cannot then say i had no right having possesion of lethal force. not without losing another case anyway.

 

[irishScott]

i already explained that. it's on page 2.

but here i'll c/p
the lawyer said something about that. it was a long time ago but i think it had to do with having to prosecute the most severe crime first. after i was found not guilty on that charge they can't really charge me with carrying a concealed weapon cuz that would be an attempt to circumvent my right to self defense. had they tried it would have gone to the state supreme court and wisconsin would had become an unregulated concealed carry state. i proved my use of lethal force in self defense. they cannot then say i had no right having possesion of lethal force, not without losing another case anyway

Huh. Interesting little loophole. So theoretically, in Wisconsin, one could carry illegally and as long as you don't get caught and can prove you used it properly (if god forbid you ever have to use it), you're good.

But that's that. In any case I'd definitely recommend getting a legit permit if you haven't already, you can do that in Wisconsin now.

 

[MrDaniel]

yep. well, maybe if they've changed that much about concealed carry then it could be a whole other ball of wax by now.

 

[irishScott]

yep. well, maybe if they've changed that much about concealed carry then it could be a whole other ball of wax by now.

Happened earlier this year. There's still some political bitching about the number of hours of training, but that's minor. Check it out: http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ConcealedCarry.asp

 

[ichy]

He just admitted to carrying an illegally concealed weapon. How is that not a crime, and was he tried for that? Don't get me wrong I'm glad he apparently used it wisely and that's all I need to let him keep carrying it, but I'm not the law.

I've never heard of internet forum postings being admissible in court.

 

[FoBoT]

 

[irishScott]

I've never heard of internet forum postings being admissible in court.

Neither have I. Just thinking that if I were a prosecutor that would be the first thing I'd go after. Would think carrying illegally would be an easy conviction, guess the law in Wisconsin is more complicated.

 

[Tweak155]

Crazy, can't say I can recall a time where someone in a murder trial has come back to post on ATOT. It is usually those stories you read about and you never know the real details. Now we have the man here in action. Very interesting.

With all that, I have no questions. This case seems pretty cut and dry. Which makes me think of a question. Was there any concern that it wasn't cut and dry as the case proceeded?

 

[shortylickens]

They probably would have if i had answered any of their questions. i used my rights at the interrogation table. that's why they went for the nuts. "Oh this guy thinks He Knows His Rights, huh?" "You just read them to me dickhead."

the lawyer said something about that. it was a long time ago but i think it had to do with having to prosecute the most severe crime first. after i was found not guilty on that charge they can't really charge me with carrying a concealed weapon cuz that would be an attempt to circumvent my right to self defense. had they tried it would have gone to the state supreme court and wisconsin would had become an unregulated concealed carry state. i proved my use of lethal force in self defense. they cannot then say i had no right having possesion of lethal force, not without losing another case anyway

or something like that.

Its funny. Illinois and Wisconsin are basically agricultural states, but because of one major metropolitan area each they have a crapload of unconstitutional laws generally only found inside the cities. Concealed carry is a huge issue in many places and now the supreme court seems to be backing up the 2nd amendment theres a lot of little bullshit charges being thrown out all across the country.

 

[Bignate603]

Although it sounds like the gun saved his life I really must ask, what is someone with schizoaffective disorder doing with a gun? I don't know the severity of your brothers condition and please don't take this the wrong way, but from my quick google search on it, could he even legally own/carry a gun?

Apparently the right thing?

 

[Wyndru]

yep hello. sry it took me so long. there are so many of these threads in so many places and i find them every now and then. this one happened to be started by someone claming to be my brother :/ pretty sure he never told me about it. prolly cuz he talks about crying

<--- necro

Wait, what? I'm missing something. So someone you don't know posted about you and your circumstances a few years ago, stating you were their brother, and now you open account with the same MrXyz title to discuss it further? How did you even find this thread?

 

[Miramonti]

Can't imagine what life must have been like in one's shoes during this process.

/edit: holy necro. Welcome to AT.

 

[Texashiker]

Holy crap, 4 year old necro thread.

 

[JTsyo]

Congrats on your freedom.

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

Conceled carry isn't about taking the law into your hands, it is about protecting yourself when there are no other options. It is supposed to be the last option when it comes to defending yourself.

 

[MrDaniel]

Wait, what? I'm missing something. So someone you don't know posted about you and your circumstances a few years ago, stating you were their brother, and now you open account with the same MrXyz title to discuss it further? How did you even find this thread?

google. like i said i find these things here and there every now and then.

 

[Wyndru]

google. like i said i find these things here and there every now and then.

Wow, it's just so random, you should pm MrColin to ask him who he is, how he knows you and why he claims to be your bro.

Do you even have a brother?

 

[MrDaniel]

Was there any concern that it wasn't cut and dry as the case proceeded?

well the place where it happened was state street. it's a chunk of down town that was wanting to be the hub of upscale commerce. state street has an organization called the state street association. they pay a bunch of tax money to the madison police department for extra patrols and many in the madison police force are in the association it's self. many high ranking detectives. if you look, many of the articles there's some pretty nasty unsubstantiated claims. number one being that at any time this was a voluntary "fight." they needed to show that this was something other than it was, someone having to defend their life and well being with lethal force in their business sector.

i laid into them pretty good for the next couple years on a news forum website.

almost all of the witnesses were ridiculously inaccurate. two of them were even out rightly lying and were caught lying on the witness stand. they were not prosecuted ofcoarse. one of them was trying to be a public defender upstate. from what i understand, that resume was never picked up

 

[MrDaniel]

Wow, it's just so random, you should pm MrColin to ask him who he is, how he knows you and why he claims to be your bro.

Do you even have a brother?

yep he's at work right now tho. his acount has had recent activity. i'm sure he'll see this soon enough and say yo if its him

 

[MrDaniel]

Conceled carry isn't about taking the law into your hands, it is about protecting yourself when there are no other options. It is supposed to be the last option when it comes to defending yourself.

not quite, you're not supposed to make warning shots before using it. to even carry a concealed weapon no one can even know you have it. naa makes some nice stuff. even after i pulled it and fired 2 warning shots the only people who knew i even had it were the 3 bags of shit to whom i was giving a second chance.

 

[Zebo]

Sweet. This is why I get pissed when I hear people trying to weasel out of jury duty. W/O a jury and it was up to politicians and politically connected judge/cops/DA your brother would have fried. Not only is jury of your peers unique globally it's last refuge to abuses of power. Think about that next time y'all abdicate.