Work in Brothel or Else!

MajorCaliber

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German law forces out-of-work females
to take sex jobs or lose unemployment

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A provision in the German welfare system is forcing out-of-work women to chose between taking jobs in the sex industry or losing their unemployment benefits.

Once one of the most generous systems in Europe, Germany's unemployment program has been reformed to require those out of work to take jobs for which they are qualified, or lose benefits. In the case of women, females below the age of 55 who have been out of work for a year or more must take any available job offered.

The full legalization of prostitution two years ago ? with brothel owners now paying taxes and employee health insurance ? has created an awkward situation at German job centers where employers can access the official government database of those seeking work, reports the London Telegraph.


One 25-year-old waitress, an unemployed information technology professional, had indicated a willingness to work in a bar at night and had past experience working in a cafe. A potential employer, finding her profile promising, contacted the job center about hiring her. Only after the young woman called to inquire about the job did she learn the employer was a brothel. When she refused the position, she was threatened with cuts to her unemployment benefits.

Centers that do not penalize job seekers who refuse offered positions are subject to lawsuits by the employers.

"There is now nothing in the law to stop women from being sent into the sex industry," says Merchthild Garweg, a Hamburg lawyer. "The new regulations say that working in the sex industry is not immoral any more, and so jobs cannot be turned down without a risk to benefits."

Garweg notes that women who have past experience as telemarketers or call service workers have been offered positions with telephone-sex services. New laws permit sex-oriented employers to advertise in the job centers and provide for the suing of job centers that refuse to accept their ads.

When the German government crafted the recent welfare reforms, brothels were initially considered for exclusion, but they were believed too difficult to distinguish from bars. Their inquiries for potential workers are treated no differently than those from grocery stores or schools.

"Why shouldn't I look for employees through the job center when I pay my taxes just like anybody else?" asked one central Berlin brothel owner who has been using the local database to find prospective workers.

The German experience closely follows that of the Netherlands, according to the Coalition Against Trafficking in Women. Following the 2000 legalization of prostitution by the Dutch and the registration of prostitutes, brothels began using official job centers to find new employees.

Garwig believes pressure on job centers to meet employment targets is only going to make the current situation worse.

"They are already prepared to push women into jobs related to sexual services, but which don't count as prostitution," she says.

"Now that prostitution is no longer considered by the law to be immoral, there is really nothing but the goodwill of the job centers to stop them from pushing women into jobs they don't want to do."

Last year, the German federal government announced that it would be fining employers that failed to hire trainees ? a measure to be applied to brothels as well as other employers. Brothels failing to hire one apprentice for every 15 employees will be fined for failing to promote the sex industry.

Germany legalized prostitution in 2002 in the belief it would slow down the trafficking in women and reduce the role of organized crime in the profession. Instead, government is expanding the sex industry by guaranteeing a steady stream of new recruits, some willing and some not.


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/...e.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42615

 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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forced? so i guess there are women where there is like zero chance of them being hired by even mcdonalds? is that what its saying? or is it sensationalistic bs? .....
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
forced? so i guess there are women where there is like zero chance of them being hired by even mcdonalds? is that what its saying? or is it sensationalistic bs? .....

I guess you didn't bother to actually READ the article? How about reading these two lines from the article:

A potential employer, finding her profile promising, contacted the job center about hiring her. Only after the young woman called to inquire about the job did she learn the employer was a brothel. When she refused the position, she was threatened with cuts to her unemployment benefits.

Centers that do not penalize job seekers who refuse offered positions are subject to lawsuits by the employers.
 

Martin

Lifer
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
forced? so i guess there are women where there is like zero chance of them being hired by even mcdonalds? is that what its saying? or is it sensationalistic bs? .....

Its the latter. The germans recently passed a labour reform law called "Hartz IV" with the main aim of freeing up the labour market and reducing unemployment. So now that that has happened, the same dumb fscks (worldnetdaily) that used to critisize "Old Europe" for their rigid labour market are critisizing them for the reforms.

Just shows you what a piece of trash WND is, as if they handn't made it clear enough already...
 

sandorski

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I suppose this shows the downside of Legal Prostitution and Welfare Reform(where it means one must take a Job if one is available) existing simultaneously. You'd think some kind of exception(Religious, Moral, or something) would be implemented for certain types of Jobs.
 

dahunan

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Jan 10, 2002
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Under Naziism people were forced to take jobs throwing humans into ovens.. so this isn't so bad in comparison -- stupid azzholes...
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Under Naziism people were forced to take jobs throwing humans into ovens.. so this isn't so bad in comparison -- stupid azzholes...

Too soon....

..seriously, don't post stuff like that again.
 

dahunan

Lifer
Jan 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: dahunan
Under Naziism people were forced to take jobs throwing humans into ovens.. so this isn't so bad in comparison -- stupid azzholes...

Too soon....

..seriously, don't post stuff like that again.

I apologize for what may have been seen as very insensitive.. but I am tired of zero tolerance laws and regulations..

Women should never ever ever be told anything like this.. under any circumstances.


My apologies to any Jewish people who were offended by my statements up above.
 

Grunt03

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i think that the concept is a good idea, at least it prevents people from takeing free rides.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Grunt03
i think that the concept is a good idea, at least it prevents people from takeing free rides.

I agree that it is a good idea.. but not with a zero tolerance ..

With zero tolerance it is one of the most disgusting laws in the history of mankind.

 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: Hardcore
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
forced? so i guess there are women where there is like zero chance of them being hired by even mcdonalds? is that what its saying? or is it sensationalistic bs? .....

I guess you didn't bother to actually READ the article? How about reading these two lines from the article:

A potential employer, finding her profile promising, contacted the job center about hiring her. Only after the young woman called to inquire about the job did she learn the employer was a brothel. When she refused the position, she was threatened with cuts to her unemployment benefits.

Centers that do not penalize job seekers who refuse offered positions are subject to lawsuits by the employers.

so you lose your welfare. you could say that forces you into prostitution in any country where that happens. or hey..maybe u can sell drugs, or become a hitman
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: sandorski
I suppose this shows the downside of Legal Prostitution and Welfare Reform(where it means one must take a Job if one is available) existing simultaneously. You'd think some kind of exception(Religious, Moral, or something) would be implemented for certain types of Jobs.

Wouldn't prostitution also be a fairly risky occupation, at least from the perspective of contracting STDS like HIV/ AIDS. Even STDs that won't kill you, like chlamydia, can destroy a woman's chance of having children. I don't see how a government could in good conscience force people into this line of work.

 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: sandorski
I suppose this shows the downside of Legal Prostitution and Welfare Reform(where it means one must take a Job if one is available) existing simultaneously. You'd think some kind of exception(Religious, Moral, or something) would be implemented for certain types of Jobs.

This is unemployment, sure a type of welfare, but unlike in the US were unemployment runs out, in Germany you recieve unemployment until you get another job which leads to abuse of the system in Germany. So you refuse to accept a job, you get kicked off unemployment.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: dahunan
Under Naziism people were forced to take jobs throwing humans into ovens.. so this isn't so bad in comparison -- stupid azzholes...

Too soon....

..seriously, don't post stuff like that again.

I apologize for what may have been seen as very insensitive.. but I am tired of zero tolerance laws and regulations..

Women should never ever ever be told anything like this.. under any circumstances.



My apologies to any Jewish people who were offended by my statements up above.

I criticized your comment not for lacking sensativity, but for being useless. Your latter post here is quite straightfoward and clearly states your opinion..stick to the meaty stuf...not cliches
 

OutHouse

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imagine this, you are a guy looking for a job and a male gay brothel is looking for prostitues and pick you...
 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: sandorski
I suppose this shows the downside of Legal Prostitution and Welfare Reform(where it means one must take a Job if one is available) existing simultaneously. You'd think some kind of exception(Religious, Moral, or something) would be implemented for certain types of Jobs.

Wouldn't prostitution also be a fairly risky occupation, at least from the perspective of contracting STDS like HIV/ AIDS. Even STDs that won't kill you, like chlamydia, can destroy a woman's chance of having children. I don't see how a government could in good conscience force people into this line of work.

lots of paying work is dangerous. being a soldier, cop, firefighter, factory worker, dock worker.. lumber worker.

most dangerous jobs and fatality rates
http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/13/pf/dangerousjobs/
 

Yo Ma Ma

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Jan 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: Grunt03
i think that the concept is a good idea, at least it prevents people from takeing free rides.

Indeed. With an ample supply of prostitutes drafted into the work force, I expect everyone could pay the going rate for their ride.
 
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