Work Laptop is a dog

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MtnMan

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Drivers......

How many process are running after boot?

Why 32bit on an i5?

I have an i3 2.53 with 4GB and this laptop is quick.
 

TheStu

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Drivers......

How many process are running after boot?

Why 32bit on an i5?

I have an i3 2.53 with 4GB and this laptop is quick.

After boot? About 50 I guess. I have 61 going now.

As I have said, it is a company laptop, the image has to accommodate everything from Pentium 4s to Sandy Bridge Core i5s. It isn't the best solution, but that is what it is.

sm625 said:
Verify that the cpu is running at full speed by running superpi.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads..._Mod_v1.5.html

You should get somewhere around.. 17 sec? Somewhere in that ballpark. Definitely not over 25. Try plugging in the AC adapter.

Though I think that even at the lowest possible speed you shouldnt see tearing on the display.

Give this a look

http://www.darthcontinent.com/2011/0...edstep-or.html

1M = 18.578s
2M = 43.093s

According to System Properties the CPU is at 1.2GHz.
 

TheStu

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Just out of interest, is it docked at work with multiple monitors attached? If so, is the performance any different when undocked?

At work it is docked, screen open, with 1 21" 1080p screen attached.

At home, undocked, it is a little more responsive, but there is still screen tearing when I move windows around, just not as much.
 

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At work it is docked, screen open, with 1 21" 1080p screen attached.

At home, undocked, it is a little more responsive, but there is still screen tearing when I move windows around, just not as much.

Ah ok, wondered if it suffered from similar issues to the E6400 where the CPU would throttle excessively - usually when connected to external displays. If it's doing the same when undocked then guess not.

Wild stab in the dark though - is the BIOS updated? Remember all kinds of thermal/CPU issues with early BIOS revisions on the E6400 series.
 

TheStu

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Ah ok, wondered if it suffered from similar issues to the E6400 where the CPU would throttle excessively - usually when connected to external displays. If it's doing the same when undocked then guess not.

Wild stab in the dark though - is the BIOS updated? Remember all kinds of thermal/CPU issues with early BIOS revisions on the E6400 series.

I really don't know. When I ran SuperPi in Win8 last night, I watched as the CPU stepped from 1.2GHz to 2.4GHz and the times were about the same (a little quicker) than they were in XP, so it appears to be throttling up just fine.

I do not know if the BIOS is updated or not. I do know that this thing (also?) has an EFI. Or that the EFI is emulating the BIOS... I think it is the latter, the EFI is emulating the BIOS.
 

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Extra memory will not help; you are at the XP 32bit limit
 

alkemyst

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I really don't know. When I ran SuperPi in Win8 last night, I watched as the CPU stepped from 1.2GHz to 2.4GHz and the times were about the same (a little quicker) than they were in XP, so it appears to be throttling up just fine.

I do not know if the BIOS is updated or not. I do know that this thing (also?) has an EFI. Or that the EFI is emulating the BIOS... I think it is the latter, the EFI is emulating the BIOS.

We aren't going to know better than you being there. That laptop shouldn't be a dog really unless the applications you are running are calling for more CPU and ESPECIALLY more GPU.

Make sure everything is up to date driver-wise and check event viewer for any issues.
 

TheStu

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We aren't going to know better than you being there. That laptop shouldn't be a dog really unless the applications you are running are calling for more CPU and ESPECIALLY more GPU.

Make sure everything is up to date driver-wise and check event viewer for any issues.

Nothing is really calling for a lot of CPU or GPU and I am not seeing anything crazy in the Event Viewer.

I think a lot of it is caused by the webapp that we use, I think it is just really poorly made. It eats 100MB of RAM just to open up, and I need at least 2 instances open. IE is usually sitting at about 250MB all day. Which isn't a lot compared to 4GB (3.5 for 32Bit), but I think that it is using it inefficiently or something. Same reason why Symantec can use 300MB and 1% CPU and somehow bog down my entire system.
 

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"Maybe WinXP is just crummy on new hardware?"

Personally I think this is the answer, I have had issues several times trying to install XP on new hardware and Win 7 on older hardware. Driver development seems to lag/stop for the mismatched combos, it has always been video driver issues that I ran into.
 

TheStu

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"Maybe WinXP is just crummy on new hardware?"

Personally I think this is the answer, I have had issues several times trying to install XP on new hardware and Win 7 on older hardware. Driver development seems to lag/stop for the mismatched combos, it has always been video driver issues that I ran into.

Well at this point the video drivers have been replaced with the most up to date Dell provided ones. It is a little better, maybe it just needed a few reboots to get the crap out of its system?
 

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I'm guessing they didn't buy that dell with xp installed
http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/latitude-e6420/pd
Only lists win7 options, so it mucked it up.

Does anyone know how to find the settings that they are using to connect to the network? I thought I might put 7 onto this thing to see if i can do everything i need. Show that to IT and say 'see, just put that on the laptops!'

I need Office and IE really. That is it. The question is if IE9 will work with the webapp.
 

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Does anyone know how to find the settings that they are using to connect to the network? I thought I might put 7 onto this thing to see if i can do everything i need. Show that to IT and say 'see, just put that on the laptops!'

I need Office and IE really. That is it. The question is if IE9 will work with the webapp.
IE9 isn't supported by XP
 

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Its not that surprising, Its to be expected that a 10 year old OS has problems with modern video hardware. But like I said, this is just what I've heard. I don't currently have a SB system so I can't personally verify that.
 

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Does anyone know how to find the settings that they are using to connect to the network? I thought I might put 7 onto this thing to see if i can do everything i need. Show that to IT and say 'see, just put that on the laptops!'

I need Office and IE really. That is it. The question is if IE9 will work with the webapp.

Win7 depends on budget.

It's way better than XP though.
 

alkemyst

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Its not that surprising, Its to be expected that a 10 year old OS has problems with modern video hardware. But like I said, this is just what I've heard. I don't currently have a SB system so I can't personally verify that.

No dawg, you missed this all

You asked if it was a Sandy Bridge.

the OP offered that up in the first post

It is a 2.4GHz Core i5 (not Sandy Bridge)

Please slow posting down and read first.
 

TheStu

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No dawg, you missed this all

You asked if it was a Sandy Bridge.

the OP offered that up in the first post



Please slow posting down and read first.

He also mentioned that IE9 doesn't work with XP... I know, I was talking about testing 7.

Win7 depends on budget.

It's way better than XP though.

There is a Windows 7 Pro key under my battery, the license came with the laptop which is why I was saying to just put it on those, or at least on the systems that would benefit. There are a couple of newer workstations with Core i3/5/7s that would benefit from it as well.

Seriously though, do you know of an effective way to find out the settings to connect to my company network?
 

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He also mentioned that IE9 doesn't work with XP... I know, I was talking about testing 7.



There is a Windows 7 Pro key under my battery, the license came with the laptop which is why I was saying to just put it on those, or at least on the systems that would benefit. There are a couple of newer workstations with Core i3/5/7s that would benefit from it as well.

Seriously though, do you know of an effective way to find out the settings to connect to my company network?

To add a computer to an Active Directory domain, you would need credentials that only IT would know. I can't imagine any IT department that would like someone screwing around with adding systems with unapproved/uncertified OS builds to it's domain. It would also create a mess in their AD structure if that was possible. Essentially, if you put Windows 7 onto the laptop, don't expect to be able to get access to the corporate network without the cooperation of your IT department.
 

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Yea that is probably against all sorts of company policy, you shouldn't mess with it without permission...
 

TheStu

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To add a computer to an Active Directory domain, you would need credentials that only IT would know. I can't imagine any IT department that would like someone screwing around with adding systems with unapproved/uncertified OS builds to it's domain. It would also create a mess in their AD structure if that was possible. Essentially, if you put Windows 7 onto the laptop, don't expect to be able to get access to the corporate network without the cooperation of your IT department.

Yea that is probably against all sorts of company policy, you shouldn't mess with it without permission...

Yea, I wasn't thinking that one through. I was just so aggravated (still am) with XP.
 

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Win7 depends on budget.

It's way better than XP though.

it has less to do with budget and more to do with legacy and home made stuff simply not working on it

we are still on XP, rumor now is march of '12 when we go to win 7. AFAIK there is only 1 computer in the building i work in not running XP and its running vista 64. because it needed to be able to support 32 gigs of ram
 

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Some IT depts will let you connect if you have up to date AV/firewalls etc, several companies I've worked at have allowed this in the past.

If you did get them to agree to adding a Win7 build to the domain then you could always use XP Mode to run any legacy IE apps that didn't work in 8/9.
 
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