working mans guide "how to finance a high end gaming habit." :)

[crisium]

I agree , mabe I'll add in the gtx670, 770, 970 and 1070 and make a $.50 a day option.
That still would be high end and might save you about $ 750 more dollars.
vs the 7970, 290x/390x and fury X it would be about the same performance give or take.

The 770 was never a good value. And you should be comparing your favorite brand's cards to the 7950 and 290, not 7970 and 290x. 7950 -> 290 -> 1070 would be the best upgrade choice from 2012-2016, somewhat in hindsight but very obvious now.

 

[happy medium]

The 770 was never a good value. And you should be comparing your favorite brand's cards to the 7950 and 290, not 7970 and 290x. 7950 -> 290 -> 1070 would be the best upgrade choice from 2012-2016, somewhat in hindsight but very obvious now.

But if you wanted top performance, the way the cards were released you would have never known that. read my story.
If you could turn back time and do it over, there are better ways, but we have not invented the time machine yet.
I didn't want to get into a brand war.
Keep it simple and light hearted.

 

[Carfax83]

The 770 was never a good value..

The GTX 770 was faster than the GTX 680, yet cost less. Also, it was faster than the main competition, which was the 7970 GHz.

 

[whm1974]

I waited a year before buying my GTX 970 for $250. And I'll wait next year to get the 1070. I really don't have any games right now that will stress my current card at 2560x1600 anyway.

 

[crisium]

The GTX 770 was faster than the GTX 680, yet cost less. Also, it was faster than the main competition, which was the 7970 GHz.

The 770 was never a good value in the context of 7950 and 670. Also once the 280X came out the 770 consistently cost more, further eroding its value, not to mention the 280. I stand by my words, I would never recommend the penny pinching user to buy a 770 at any point in its life relative to other superior PPD cards.

 

[happy medium]

The GTX 770 was faster than the GTX 680, yet cost less. Also, it was faster than the main competition, which was the 7970 GHz.

If you notice in "MY story" I linked reviews which show what the current competition was at that time, benchmarks and release day prices.

It made me miss Anandtech gpu reviews.
They were good.

 

[crisium]

Where would the 770 fit in "your story"? The user would already have a 670 or 7950 from months earlier with common sense, and a 680 in your story.

 

[happy medium]

The 770 was never a good value in the context of 7950 and 670. Also once the 280X came out the 770 consistently cost more, further eroding its value, not to mention the 280. I stand by my words, I would never recommend the penny pinching user to buy a 770 at any point in its life relative to other superior PPD cards.

What was the gtx770 's competition when it was released?
The 770 was $400 and mopped the floor with a $440 7970ghz. That was the prices when the gtx770 released.
Scroll to the bottom of the page.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6994/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-review

please don't start a brand war.

 

[happy medium]

Where would the 770 fit in "your story"? The user would already have a 670 or 7950 from months earlier with common sense, and a 680 in your story.

Simple new story.
670 to 770 to 970 to 1070.
or
7950 to 290 to 390 to fury air
or
660 to 760 to 960 to 1060

I don't get your point?

 

[crisium]

The fact that you think 670 to 770 is a tenable upgrade is my point. And that you think Launch prices had any longterm impact.

Just 3 weeks into $400 770 launch:https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_770_Lightning/

$270 7950. At OC, even then, the wiser choice for the non-rich man who values PPD. Since, I thought we were talking about penny pinching GPU enthusiasts.

770 was a good value in the bubble of your only choices being 7970GHz or 680, and even the cheaper 670 still made a hard bargain for the brand locked users.

 

[Rifter]

NO , I guess you could just insert a 7970, 290x/390x and Fury X and it would work. You would just have a slower system every year and less resale value.

You are truly delusional, You could mine enough in a few months to pay for a 290x and be banking money well before year 1 was over.

 

[linkgoron]

Simple new story.
670 to 770 to 970 to 1070.
or
7950 to 290 to 390 to fury air
or
660 to 760 to 960 to 1060

I don't get your point?

Why would anyone upgrade from a 290 to a 390? I thought this thread was about smart decisions for gamers with a tight budget.

 

[happy medium]

The fact that you think 670 to 770 is a tenable upgrade is my point. And that you think Launch prices had any longterm impact.

If I were buying at release that's how it works. read the story, I bought at release.
I was not concerned with wondering how long it would take for prices to fall.

The 670 to 770 was better than the 290x to 390x.
Mabe just go from 670 to 970? or 290x to Fury?

You can re write the story how ever you want.
That's why this one is called "Happy 's story"
It might not work for you.
You might be a miner, or have another way.
I see some people got it and are saying how they do it, not telling me how I should tell my story.

One of the points of the thread was to stop people from telling US how to spend OUR money and how much performance we need with walls of text.

See.
in my original OP
"
After years of putting up with "walls of texts" on" why we have paid to much in the past for our cards, or are paying to much for our video cards now, yesterday, last week, because the die size is too small, its not high end, its runs too cool, don't use enough power, or because we didn't pay that much for a ti4800 11 years ago, ect ect ect ect ect .

 

[happy medium]

Why would anyone upgrade from a 290 to a 390? I thought this thread was about smart decisions for gamers with a tight budget.

That's not my idea.
I used gtx680, 780, 980 and 1080

I believe if you go back to the 390x release thread and reviews they will give you all the reasons to upgrade from a 290 to 390.
I believe the first one was 4gb to 8gb vram.

but that not on topic , so i'll stop there.

 

[happy medium]

You are truly delusional, You could mine enough in a few months to pay for a 290x and be banking money well before year 1 was over.

Thanks for your input. that seems to be a popular way to upgrade.

 

[linkgoron]

If I were buying at release that's how it works. read the story, I bought at release.
I was not concerned with wondering how long it would take for prices to fall.

The 670 to 770 was better than the 290x to 390x.
Mabe just go from 670 to 970? or 290x to Fury?

You can re write the story how ever you want.
That's why this one is called "Happy 's story"
It might not work for you.
You might be a miner, or have another way.
I see some people got it and are saying how they do it, not telling me how I should tell my story.

One of the points of the thread was to stop people from telling US how to spend OUR money and how much performance we need with walls of text.

See.
in my original OP
"
After years of putting up with "walls of texts" on" why we have paid to much in the past for our cards, or are paying to much for our video cards now, yesterday, last week, because the die size is too small, its not high end, its runs too cool, don't use enough power, or because we didn't pay that much for a ti4800 11 years ago, ect ect ect ect ect .

This isn't a thread about a "story". You called this thread a "guide".

Some people here are saying that this guide is actually bad advice, full of bad decisions and is actually not really good.

A budget conscious buyer should make wise decisions. Upgrading from a 290 to a 390 for more memory is a bad one. As is upgrading from a 670 to a 770.

 

[Erenhardt]

This is easy:
GTX480 -> PS4
Poor man's solution.... Nuff said

 

[happy medium]

This isn't a thread about a "story". You called this thread a "guide".

Some people here are saying that this guide is actually bad advice, full of bad decisions and is actually not really good.

A budget conscious buyer should make wise decisions. Upgrading from a 290 to a 390 for more memory is a bad one. As is upgrading from a 670 to a 770.

thanks for your input.
good luck

 

[crisium]

This isn't a thread about a "story". You called this thread a "guide".

Some people here are saying that this guide is actually bad advice, full of bad decisions and is actually not really good.

A budget conscious buyer should make wise decisions. Upgrading from a 290 to a 390 for more memory is a bad one. As is upgrading from a 670 to a 770.

Hear, hear.

Saving slowly over time is wise. Spending hundreds of dollars upgrading just for merely 14% more shaders (770) or double the VRAM (390) and a tiny bandwidth boost is unwise. What a story, Mark.

 

[zinfamous]

For someone that professes to dislike walls of text telling them how to buy stuff, that OP is one massive wall of text when all you really need to say was: Buy an AMD card or two for a cheap and efficient means to mine your way to free computer hardware for as long as you like.

But no, let's talk about saving pennies per day to save up for terrible price/performance options because that is always better than giving money to "the enemy!"

 

[crisium]

Or even if you forget mining, the true poor man's guide is to go 7950/670 to 290/970 to 1070 and save hundreds of dollars while having 85-95% performance of the flagship. I'm skipping the 980 Ti which was a good value but would likely not fit the penny pincher budget. Honestly, the guide is bad advice unless you have absolutely impeccable resell timing, as another user said, but even then it is telling a "poor man" to pay $650 for a GPU, twice, which does not make sense.

 

[poofyhairguy]

This is easy:
GTX480 -> PS4
Poor man's solution.... Nuff said

Until you get to the games and you have to pay full price unless you can find some sort of sale on the packaged games on discs (eww). Half the trick of being a budget gamer is consolidating your purchases around Steam sales. From what I understand only Microsoft has a big sale on its online games once a year.

 

[daxzy]

I think OP is severely out of touch with the "poor man" if he's advising the "poor man" to buy a $500 video card every generation. Also I found it extremely ironic that for a prerequisite, you need to have a ~$800 gaming system to begin with (oh and a $500 video card).

And I love your Nvidia bias. A true "poor man" would've bought AMD cards and mined with them, getting a massive profit. I've paid for my Radon 7950/R9-280X about 5+ times over (factoring in electricity costs) just by mining them 24/7 winter (this actually saves me on my heating bill) and part time spring/fall. I think a true "poor man" would appreciate the $2000-3000 per card in mining profits far more than a few fps in games.

 

[nurturedhate]

Happy, this is the same thing you did in your last thread about what chip goes where. People point out an inconsistency and you throw up "MY STORY" this time. You try to pass something off as factual and relevant by manipulating data to validate your preconceived conclusion. This isn't how all of this works. You keep doing this but the result isn't going to change. Just trying to help you.

 

[moonbogg]

I still use sandybridge and I feel like a serious gamer. Oh, I am quite serious. Last night's 19-0 rocket league match makes me very serious.