Workstation build

[mfenn]

I wasn't very clear... i mean, most web stores here sells a lot of ECC buffered kits, but not many unbuffered ECC ones. The only one i could find is a CL11 1600mhz Kingston kit (which is ok since it is also on the qualified memory list for the MB)

Link us to some Italian web shops that you use and we'll help you find some good memory (you don't necessarily have to buy a kit).

Also, if you're considering an 1155 workstation build, make sure that you are looking at the Xeon E3 processors instead of the i5/i7 processors since the E3's are the ones that support ECC.

 

[Blain]

Link us to some Italian web shops that you use and we'll help you find some good memory (you don't necessarily have to buy a kit).

Crucial Italia, CT2KIT51272BA1339 8GB kit

 

[esse09]

Hello, thanks again
I will get an E3-1240v2

www.bpm-power.com
www.apmshop.it

These are for sale at 65 usd
http://www.apmshop.it/offerta/Kingston/KVR1600D3E11SK4-16G/235855

 

[BrightCandle]

You are the sort of user that Intel aims its Sandy Bridge Enterprise 2011 platform at. You would likely see good benefits from running 6 cores/12 threads and additional RAM. You should consider a 2011 + 3930k, because its likely 50% faster than what you are getting.

 

[esse09]

You are the sort of user that Intel aims its Sandy Bridge Enterprise 2011 platform at. You would likely see good benefits from running 6 cores/12 threads and additional RAM. You should consider a 2011 + 3930k, because its likely 50% faster than what you are getting.

I'd have to give up ECC memory support, "Workstation Class" monickers, which i don't care about honestly, but my boss (who's buying) does (i am dealing with an Hewlett Packard fanboy here... D: )
I will look into a build like that though.

 

[esse09]

I finally convinced my employer and made the order.

Final build
- Corsair Carbide 300R
- Corsar AXi 760w
- Asus P8C WS
- Intel Xeon E3-1240v2
- Kingston 4x4gb 1600 mhz CL11 unbuffered ECC
- AMD FirePro V5900 (i could not find the W5000)
- CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
- W7 Pro 64bit
- OCZ Vector 256gb

Thanks for all the help, when i get the parts i will post some pictures of the build

 

[mfenn]

I'd have to give up ECC memory support, "Workstation Class" monickers, which i don't care about honestly, but my boss (who's buying) does (i am dealing with an Hewlett Packard fanboy here... D: )
I will look into a build like that though.

You don't have to give that up when you go with LGA 2011, it will just cost you more to get it. Higher-end workstations are all LGA 2011.

I finally convinced my employer and made the order.

Final build
- Corsair Carbide 300R
- Corsar AXi 760w
- Asus P8C WS
- Intel Xeon E3-1240v2
- Kingston 4x4gb 1600 mhz CL11 unbuffered ECC
- AMD FirePro V5900 (i could not find the W5000)
- CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
- W7 Pro 64bit
- OCZ Vector 256gb

Thanks for all the help, when i get the parts i will post some pictures of the build

Looks nice!

 

[esse09]

Thanks. I spent about 2100 usd (1500 usd before taxes)

 

[mfenn]

Jesus those taxes! I guess the Italian govt. has to pay down those debts somehow!

 

[Sleepingforest]

Jesus those taxes! I guess the Italian govt. has to pay down those debts somehow!

I usually don't like to derail threads, but I have to give some background on the sales tax.

Generally, the income tax fraud rate is much higher in Europe (only God knows why). "Fraud" includes deductibles, loopholes, accounting tricks (the legal ways) and laundering/hiding away money. The way the governments there generally make up for this fraud is increasing sales tax, which is harder to avoid.

Well, that and they have more welfare programs to pay for.

 

[esse09]

Jesus those taxes! I guess the Italian govt. has to pay down those debts somehow!

I mixed up the eur / usd numbers, it's 1700 before taxes, still...

I usually don't like to derail threads, but I have to give some background on the sales tax.
Generally, the income tax fraud rate is much higher in Europe (only God knows why). "Fraud" includes deductibles, loopholes, accounting tricks (the legal ways) and laundering/hiding away money. The way the governments there generally make up for this fraud is increasing sales tax, which is harder to avoid.
Well, that and they have more welfare programs to pay for.

There's a 21% tax on any sale to the final consumer.
Gasoline fuel here is $9 per gallon :\
As sleepingforest says the issue is that there is still a big chunk of people who either just don't pay taxes or do their best to avoid them. This is a cultural problem! (that we are trying to solve, and to me it seems we are going somewhere)
I'll just tell you a number. Our central bank estimates that fraudulent activity makes up 30% of our GDP (about 650 billion $)

Sorry for the off topic

 

[crazymonkeyzero]

One more question crazymonkey...
i keep reading on the Asus forum of many issue with the P8B WS and ECC sticks.
I am sure this got better with the P8C, but do you run your memory without problems? Is the ECC function working?

Did you get the Kingston stick from the qualified memory list?

Thanks.

Also, as a general question, i've read that buffered and registered are just two common ways to say the same thing, is this true?

Sorry for the uber late response

Yes I am using four sticks of this kingston ECC on the qualified vendor list (yes you bought the right stuff). People that are having trouble with memory on the Asus board are most probably trying to use buffered ECC memory. This Asus P8C WS only supports unbuffered ECC. The two are different, and not to be confused. And in my experience, the ECC functionality is working perfectly fine. My computer has been running computations 24/7 with no hiccups for the past few months. Hope you enjoy your new rig.

 

[esse09]

Perfect.
Thanks again

 

[esse09]

Hi again, parts arrived and set up.

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[mfenn]

Certainly looks nice! Very clean inside.