There doesn't exist any explanation or facts in the world which can alter the conviction of genius.
Case in point.
There doesn't exist any explanation or facts in the world which can alter the conviction of genius.I honestly have no idea what you think I have done wrong. Your choice to explain yourself.
The origin does not change the current situation. It's currently sexist.
This isn't about Iran, or chess.
It's about Us vs. Them, and getting people to hate other cultures.
I'm still waiting for people to provide their ideas on the final solution to the radical Islamic question.
Devil's advocate question here: Is covering hair really any worse than forcing women to cover their breasts? Or forcing either sex to cover their genitals?
Devil's advocate question here: Is covering hair really any worse than forcing women to cover their breasts? Or forcing either sex to cover their genitals?
This isn't about Iran, or chess.
It's about Us vs. Them, and getting people to hate other cultures.
I'm still waiting for people to provide their ideas on the final solution to the radical Islamic question.
This isn't about Iran, or chess.
It's about Us vs. Them, and getting people to hate other cultures.
I'm still waiting for people to provide their ideas on the final solution to the radical Islamic question.
how's that 'hillary will drop out before the first debate' working out for you toothless? You seem to have abandoned that thread for some reason.
I have no doubt that for some that is true but not for me. The US has far more problems than Iran and hair coverings. I do not see the logic in not being able to say something is sexist because it's part of a culture. This practice is sexist. That fact does not diminish Western sexism. So when I point it out it's not about hating anyone, it's just a fact of something being sexist. The same way I point out Western expectations for women are sexist.
The ultimate solution for religions is non believe. Until then it's talking and exchanging more moderate ideas we need to make the bad parts of religion and culture taboo. Just like we are doing for being homophobic.
how's that 'hillary will drop out before the first debate' working out for you toothless? You seem to have abandoned that thread for some reason.
just looking for an answer, not trolling.I guess when you don't have anything better to say, why not troll?
tried the original thread, but alas, no response.Wrong thread?
Yes and no. Covering generals in the West is very much a product of Christianity and it's culture. Breasts have not always been seen as sexual and as such could be exposed. It was the wealthy whom dictated fashion. It was around the Victorian era that changed. Until then in France it was common for wealthy elite to wear very low cut necklines which would show the breast.
But to your question, yes it's the same if you don't see breasts as a sexual organ. By definition it's not but many see breasts as such. In that case saying women and men should cover their sexual organs is not sexist. Personally I think that woman should be able to go topless.
I absolutely think something can be sexist and part of a culture, you really don't? Christians in the US rallying against birth control, abortion, hell even women in the workplace/military etc? Surely you can't be that partisan?
Women's rights are definitely one of the issues I fall in the left end of the spectrum. Women should be held in equal standing to men (and currently they are not), men shouldn't dictate what women do with their bodies, their place is not in the home making sandwiches raising kids, and I don't care if that's what the cultural norm is. How people can claim to be both for women's rights and also for things like the burka which is a cultural enslavement of women is beyond me.
If only someone can figure out the actual history of the scarf in iran instead of rambling on in complete ignorance.
The Dems are to the right of the Iranian clerics and the Reps are way out there.Could someone please explain why liberals in the US are responsible for the actions of religious conservatives in Iran?
Could someone please explain why liberals in the US are responsible for the actions of religious conservatives in Iran?
Nonsense. You're confusing liberals' support of religious freedom with supporting every action done in the name of religion (which they do not). While in the meantime, you're attacking the religious freedom of Muslims under the false pretext that you actually give a shit about women's rights.They aren't, but liberals in the US and other weastern nations (for some strange reason) do rally around Islam and defend its practices - including the way women tend to be treated - even though it goes against many of their core beliefs. The burka ban in France for instance is a good example of what you would think would be celebrated as a victory for women's rights, but it's instead being skewed as Islmamaphobic and racist. I've no doubt that plays a role in the ban, but fundamentally these women are treated like slaves and any step forward in undoing that is a good one imo.
Nonsense. You're confusing liberals' support of religious freedom with supporting every action done in the name of religion (which they do not). While in the meantime, you're attacking the religious freedom of Muslims under the false pretext that you actually give a shit about women's rights.
It's ridiculous.
Kudos to Iran for sticking to their Islamo-Christian values, not being PC, and pandering to secular progressives.
False pretext lol.
I support the religious freedom of Muslims, what I don't support is the mistreatment and eslavement of women. Religion can't be used to justify the mistreatment of women.
Good Islamo-Christian women cover their heads, they don't wave their Herbal Essences and Pantene Pro-V's around for stranger men like secular-progressive Jezebels.I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. If not, what a bizarre statement - especially given who the poster is.
Then where is your outrage of the mistreatment of women by certain Christian groups right here in the US? While you're focusing on the practices of Muslims in countries on the other side of the world, there's a major party candidate for Vice President right here in the US who has built his entire political career on the belief that his religion justifies the mistreatment of women and gays. Where is your outrage? Oh wait... you're voting for him...
You should boycott merica alongside these conservative women's rights activists until that happens.
If only someone can figure out the actual history of the scarf in iran instead of rambling on in complete ignorance.