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sdifox

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I mean, that's exactly what rugby looks like to everyone else, so the issue here is that neither of us actually understand the subtleties of what is going on in those "just running into each other, and so superfluous" moments....I can admit that about myself, anyway. Hah.

American football isn't really like that at all--each one of those guys running into each other is doing that in a specific direction, for a specific reason, on each individual play to create planned holes, distractions, blocks, whatever. It's all preposterously coordinated and those guys have to memorize something like 90 different schemes for their playbook (it's probably more than that, I honestly have no idea).

I'm not arguing that greater complexity is a benefit as Captante mentioned earlier--in, fact, I think the opposite is true in sports--but it is extremely complex, highly organized, and everyone has a specific place to be on each given play which can change dramatically from play to play. The strategy changes from play to play for many reasons, which is why there is a lot of standing around and planning in between. In a way, it's actually a bit too fast for their human brains because they have to scheme this out within 35 seconds between each play, based on the results of the previous play.

I can absolutely appreciate how boring it appears to others.


AF is literally pick 1 from X number of patterns in the play book and hope the other team doesn't put up a pattern that counters ours.
 

Captante

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AF is literally pick 1 from X number of patterns in the play book and hope the other team doesn't put up a pattern that counters ours.

We've already established you don't actually know jack about American football.... no need to keep talking about it.
 

zinfamous

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AF is literally pick 1 from X number of patterns in the play book and hope the other team doesn't put up a pattern that counters ours.

I mean, it's not that at all, but we do know that soccer is really just pick one of two possible formations on the offense and tell your players on offense to go pass the ball to each other and try to get it in the goal more times than the other team does before the generally arbitrary clock expires.

I wish I could get paid $10s of millions to manage a soccer club. I think Maradona had that job figured out perfectly!



 
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zinfamous

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...but I don't want to be responsible for taking this to an "our sports are better than your sports!" thread. That's stupid and obnoxious.

Can we instead spend the next two days between games (matches?) talking about the American Journalist that might have been murdered, Russian style, by Qataris who were pissed that he tried to walk into a stadium with a rainbow shirt?
 

Captante

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I had a feeling France was going to take this game if only because of how much trouble England had with the US team.

Semi-finals are going to be very interesting.
 

SKORPI0

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I had a feeling France was going to take this game if only because of how much trouble England had with the US team.

Semi-finals are going to be very interesting.
Probably France and Croatia meet again just like the 2018 FIFA World Cup held in Russia, but that would be boring . Argentina vs. Morocco would be great.


 
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I had a feeling France was going to take this game if only because of how much trouble England had with the US team.

Semi-finals are going to be very interesting.
I will disagree here. The game with France was the best I've seen out of England this WC so far. France got lucky taking everything into account.
 

Muse

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LoL 11 yellow cards
That official was nuts. IIRC, 16 yellows when done. The official should never ref another WC game. Game got out of hand and it was largely because the official was insane.
 
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They are nervous time, every time.
And easy to miss, ask Harry Kane.
I think the Croatia penalty kicks were amazing. Almost every one of them aimed for the bottom left (or right?) corner of the net. That takes a lot of practice to get right.
 

Muse

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If the NBA can play basketball until somebody actually wins in the playoffs so could FIFA with a few minor rule-changes around subs.
The difference is NBA basketball playoffs have an OTs if teams are tied, which is far less likely than soccer because scoring in soccer is infrequent. Plus an OT in BB is 5 minutes, plenty of time to develop a point differential.

NBA scores happen in less than a minute on average. In soccer it takes a 1/2 hour. It really is expecting too much of teams to play until there's a score differential in regular play or extra periods.

The low scoring in soccer bores some people because they don't appreciate the nuances.
 
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Muse

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I think the Croatia penalty kicks were amazing. Almost every one of them aimed for the bottom left (or right?) corner of the net. That takes a lot of practice to get right.
Croatia have a very decent chance of winning the 2022 WC. They eliminated the favorite already. I can't root against them, Argentina either. Or Morroco.
 
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zinfamous

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The difference is NBA basketball playoffs have an OTs if teams are tied, which is far less likely than soccer because scoring in soccer is infrequent. Plus an OT in BB is 5 minutes, plenty of time to develop a point differential.

NBA scores happen in less than a minute on average. In soccer it takes a 1/2 hour. It really is expecting too much of teams to play until there's a score differential in regular play or extra periods.

The low scoring in soccer bores some people because they don't appreciate the nuances.

I think after 1 15 minute over time in soccer, the teams should flip a coin and the loser loses a player for the next 15 minute OT. IF still tied, then the other team loses 2 players, and so on. If it ends and both goalies can't even score against each other, then the managers meet in the middle of the grass and fight.
 

IronWing

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I think after 1 15 minute over time in soccer, the teams should flip a coin and the loser loses a player for the next 15 minute OT. IF still tied, then the other team loses 2 players, and so on. If it ends and both goalies can't even score against each other, then the managers meet in the middle of the grass and fight.
I think that if soccer were played on a field the size of a basketball court and had walls to bounce the ball off of like a hockey rink, it might be okay.
 
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Muse

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I think after 1 15 minute over time in soccer, the teams should flip a coin and the loser loses a player for the next 15 minute OT. IF still tied, then the other team loses 2 players, and so on. If it ends and both goalies can't even score against each other, then the managers meet in the middle of the grass and fight.
What, arm wrestling?

Maybe a Coney Island style hotdog eating contest?
 

zinfamous

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What, arm wrestling?

Maybe a Coney Island style hotdog eating contest?

Sure! But because it's mostly Europeans maybe it should be a Doner Kebap eating contest? Way better than hotdogs, at least. Would be entertaining.
 

zinfamous

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I think that if soccer were played on a field the size of a basketball court and had walls to bounce the ball off of like a hockey rink, it might be okay.

Sounds a lot like Arena League Football, which also had sexy dance teams performing at the sidelines.

Hey! I just thought of something else that soccer needs!
 

Muse

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Sure! But because it's mostly Europeans maybe it should be a Doner Kebap eating contest? Way better than hotdogs, at least. Would be entertaining.
Haven't seen one of those for over 20 years. Lunch time in San Francisco.
 

zinfamous

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Haven't seen one of those for over 20 years. Lunch time in San Francisco.

you're like a 20 minute BART ride from SF. The eff is wrong with you? If I had nothing else to do, I'd be heading over there every other day to get Doner. ....also, I never saw a single hint of a Doner existing anywhere in that part of the world when I was living there. Am I just blind or did it all disappear before I arrived?
 

Muse

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you're like a 20 minute BART ride from SF. The eff is wrong with you? If I had nothing else to do, I'd be heading over there every other day to get Doner. ....also, I never saw a single hint of a Doner existing anywhere in that part of the world when I was living there. Am I just blind or did it all disappear before I arrived?
You're talking about a giant hanging piece of marinated meat that they carve off of to put in, say, pita pocket, right? There was a place downtown San Fran, IIRC on Montgomery or Powell St. just before the millennium. You could walk in and order to take out, which I did, I guess a few times for lunch.

Like this:

 
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sdifox

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You're talking about a giant hanging piece of marinated meat that they carve off of to put in, say, pita pocket, right? There was a place downtown San Fran, IIRC on Montgomery or Powell St. just before the millennium. You could walk in and order to take out, which I did, I guess a few times for lunch.

Like this:



That might be Shawarma or Taco al pastor, a derivative of Shawarma, which is a derivative of doner kabob.

 
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sdifox

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...but I don't want to be responsible for taking this to an "our sports are better than your sports!" thread. That's stupid and obnoxious.

Can we instead spend the next two days between games (matches?) talking about the American Journalist that might have been murdered, Russian style, by Qataris who were pissed that he tried to walk into a stadium with a rainbow shirt?

Report sasy he collapsed during the final minutes of Argentina Netherlands game, CPR for twenty min. I wonder if Qatar will release his body and test results.

 
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