World of Warcraft: 2 Months in... my thoughts

[Aikouka]

Leveling in WoW isn't a hard thing to do, especially if you've done it once as it's mostly the same. Especially past level 20, where you tend to congeal with the rest of the playerbase (as Night Elfs leave Darkshore, Humans leave Westfall, Gnomes/Dwarves leave Loch Modan... this of course assuming they haven't left already ).

I kind of wish that I wouldn't have played my first character (rogue) as much as I did though. He currently has like... 120-130 days played, and just looking at my 4-ish alts that are around level 25, I easily could've had them all to 60 (along with the other 3 60's, excluding the main) if I wouldn't have played the rogue so much. I find that playing all the classes is actually nice, you really don't understand the game and players tend to make many assumptions of other classes that are easily resolved by simply playing the class. It also helps in PVP to understand the length of cooldowns, have an idea of the area of effect of an item/spell or the inherent weaknesses.

I'm tempted to finish leveling the characters, but too much leveling just burns me out quickly.

Also, I don't think gear in any way constitutes how "1337sauce" a player is. There's a lot more to profficiency than gear (unless you're a warlock or a hunter ).

 

[KarmaPolice]

like others have said...its NOTHING compared to Everquest..and dont even start to talk about Liniage or Final Fantasy...

 

[Vortex22]

Originally posted by: Soccerman06

Originally posted by: sundevb
Getting to 60 is just the start of the game. In fact, there are quite a few different levels after 60, based on what level gear you possess. This will all become a moot point once TBC (The Burning Crusade expansion pack) arrives and the level cap is raised to 70, but currently 60s are roughly divided into the following (made up) categories:

- Noobies (aka noobs, nubs, n00bs). Fresh 60s, wearing mostly high level greens and blues.
- Bluebies. People who have been 60 for a while and have collected most of the blue items for their class from low level instances (e.g. Strath, Scholo, DM, BRS).
- MCers. 60s who have been farming MC-level content for tier 1 epics (or equivalents), mostly from MC (Molten Core), ZG (Zul'Gurub), and AQ20 (Ahn'Qiraj 20-man). Note that a lot of blue gear from ZG and AQ20 equals or exceeds MC tier 1 gear, thus people in this category are often confused and lumped in with Bluebies.
- T2 (aka Tier 2). These people have graduated from the lower raids and have replaced most of their MC gear with BWL (Blackwing Lair) Tier 2 epics. Players at this stage are generally "epicced out" (i.e. most items are epic quality)
- T2+. Comprised of those who have mostly all Tier 2 as well as AQ40 upgrades. This is essentially a sub-category of T2, as these players are just slightly better geared than their T2 counterparts.
- 1337sauce. Probably less than 1% of 60s fall into this category. People who have been 60 for a long time and have gone through all of the previous categories, and have joined serious raiding guilds. These players have all of the best epics from BWL and AQ40, and are now upgrading those pieces with Tier 3 and other Naxx (Naxxramas) epics.

Something to note... the last patch essentially removed the "Bluebie" category with the new PvP system. Now fresh 60s are just a day or two away from getting PvP epics (including weapons) that are roughly equivalent to Tier 2/BWL gear.

Also... don't be discouraged if you are a fresh 60 (i.e. noob), and everyone you see far outclasses you gear-wise. The new level 60-63 quest rewards and dungeon drops in the expansion will allow you to catch up to those that are currently in the "MC" category, and by level 65-67 you will have caught up to the T2/T2+s. Once you hit level 70, all bets are off and everyone will be (more or less) equally geared, as the quest rewards and drops from level 68-70 match or beat Tier 3 quality epics, without having to do 40-man raids.

What people dont realize is you actually NEED T3 to get T5, its like the T0 conversion to 0.5. People who think T3 getting replaced by 65 greens are retarted and deserve to find out whats coming to them. Thas said, I cant wait to get my emo T4 on my lock.

What? No you don't.
I have a level 70 in beta. You get T4 and T5 pieces from boss token drops, just like in Naxx and AQ40. The armor is sitting on NPCs and all you need to purchase it is the token drop.

 

[Randum]

i feel like MMos are simply a drawn out RPG, its time you wait, and time walking, and fights that have so many people in a raid its like you are simply walking inches at a time, with no real rewards. I played EQ2, W0w, FFXI, and Guild Wars, the only one I really truly enjoyed for the fun of it, was Guild Wars, and it was free.
I think MMOs are a nice marketing game where people pay more to play, but they are a thing of the past for me. I want to play, interact with people while doing it but I feel like MMOs are like a big myspace a lot of the time. It was way too hard to participate in higher level things in the game, and have any bit of a social life.
Anyone with me on this?

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Vortex22
What? No you don't.
I have a level 70 in beta. You get T4 and T5 pieces from boss token drops, just like in Naxx and AQ40. The armor is sitting on NPCs and all you need to purchase it is the token drop.

What's with all the Tier 5 talk? To my knowledge, there's simply just variations of Tier 4 for different roles, not different tiers of armor. Also, you're right about the token system and actually from what I've seen, the TBC dungeons are all like this and they use the Heroic/Normal difficulty setting in this way (i.e. Heroic tokens and Normal tokens that have different rewards).

Personally, I wish blizzard would just allow gear to switch (kind of like the Anathema/Benediction transformation) to allow different roles. Although this would either restrict gear to 2 roles or require chains (such as R1->R2->R3->R1...). This would be far superior to having to acquire multiple sets, as long as they remove the notion that they included with Anathema/Benediction (that priests enjoy being stuck to one role for 30 minutes after changing).

 

[DougK62]

I played a character until lvl 40. Got bored, quit playing for few months.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[Vortex22]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Vortex22
What? No you don't.
I have a level 70 in beta. You get T4 and T5 pieces from boss token drops, just like in Naxx and AQ40. The armor is sitting on NPCs and all you need to purchase it is the token drop.

What's with all the Tier 5 talk? To my knowledge, there's simply just variations of Tier 4 for different roles, not different tiers of armor. Also, you're right about the token system and actually from what I've seen, the TBC dungeons are all like this and they use the Heroic/Normal difficulty setting in this way (i.e. Heroic tokens and Normal tokens that have different rewards).

Personally, I wish blizzard would just allow gear to switch (kind of like the Anathema/Benediction transformation) to allow different roles. Although this would either restrict gear to 2 roles or require chains (such as R1->R2->R3->R1...). This would be far superior to having to acquire multiple sets, as long as they remove the notion that they included with Anathema/Benediction (that priests enjoy being stuck to one role for 30 minutes after changing).

There are two new sets of armor, T4 and T5. Each set has different variations for different classes. I play a druid so there are really six "sets" of new tier armor.

Example:
T4: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?s=malorne
T5: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?s=nordrassil

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Vortex22
There are two new sets of armor, T4 and T5. Each set has different variations for different classes. I play a druid so there are really six "sets" of new tier armor.

Example:
T4: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?s=malorne
T5: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?s=nordrassil

Hmm I had been under the impression that the supposed T5 was actually just the other version of T4 and many people seemed to support that. Thanks for the clarification!

I like that name "Nuker set" . If only when Starfire started casting, you'd hear "Nuclear Launch Detected" .

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: pontifex
just what we need, another wow bashing thread. :roll:

I just read this entire thread, and I don't think WoW was bashed once

Quite informative, actually.

 

[Vortex22]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Vortex22
There are two new sets of armor, T4 and T5. Each set has different variations for different classes. I play a druid so there are really six "sets" of new tier armor.

Example:
T4: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?s=malorne
T5: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?s=nordrassil

Hmm I had been under the impression that the supposed T5 was actually just the other version of T4 and many people seemed to support that. Thanks for the clarification!

I like that name "Nuker set" . If only when Starfire started casting, you'd hear "Nuclear Launch Detected" .

Heh, those are just placeholder names. I think they are renamed in game but just haven't been updated on the site yet.

 

[QurazyQuisp]

I played for about 2 weeks, got to level 20 something. Then I realised that it was one of the worst games that I've ever played. It was the same thing over and over and over. "Hey kill 7 of these" or "Bring me 12 of these" and the list goes on. My brain is not entertained by doing the same thing over. That being said, most games get pretty boring to me after a while. (A week or two)

 

[sundev]

Originally posted by: Vortex22

Originally posted by: Soccerman06

What people dont realize is you actually NEED T3 to get T5, its like the T0 conversion to 0.5. People who think T3 getting replaced by 65 greens are retarted and deserve to find out whats coming to them. Thas said, I cant wait to get my emo T4 on my lock.

What? No you don't.
I have a level 70 in beta. You get T4 and T5 pieces from boss token drops, just like in Naxx and AQ40. The armor is sitting on NPCs and all you need to purchase it is the token drop.

Yep... you don't need T3 to get T4 and T5. Basically, all level 60 40 mans will be more or less pointless to run at level 60. Everyone levelling from level 1 will cruise by 60 just like we cruised by 50, and not only that but finding a pickup group for a 40 man raid will probably be pretty tough. So... if you don't already have T3, you'll probably never get it.

 

[monk3y]

I have a pretty addictive personality so I'm not going to even try to play. I've used to be heavily addicted to Counter-Strike when I was in High School. I definitely don't want to get back to the way things were then.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: Randum
i feel like MMos are simply a drawn out RPG, its time you wait, and time walking, and fights that have so many people in a raid its like you are simply walking inches at a time, with no real rewards. I played EQ2, W0w, FFXI, and Guild Wars, the only one I really truly enjoyed for the fun of it, was Guild Wars, and it was free.
I think MMOs are a nice marketing game where people pay more to play, but they are a thing of the past for me. I want to play, interact with people while doing it but I feel like MMOs are like a big myspace a lot of the time. It was way too hard to participate in higher level things in the game, and have any bit of a social life.
Anyone with me on this?

I like Guild Wars because it's easy to participate once you hit Level 20, yet there are so many things left for you to do/explore. I have some decent equips on my Level 20 R/E and I've gotten to the Hall of Heroes at least a dozen times in the space of a week... I might have to start playing again, haven't played in almost a year.

 

[Paddington]

My thoughts? Hell of a game but it takes SO long to level. I do not have the time to committ to getting to 60 (Which is the only reason I really want to play) and I am not willing to give up my life and what I have to have my e-penis grow thanks to some zeros and one's stored on Blizzard's server.

LOL>

In WoW, it's too easy to level. People start new alts all the time, and have them hit 60 in two months of casual playing.

In EQ, leveling was insanely difficult. If you died, 10% level XP penalty, so everyone played very conservatively. That and there was 5 minutes of downtime between each fight. It took about 24 hours or more just to level once.

I got to level 65 in 9 days played in Everquest.

but I also had 130 days played on my first char

I heard that later on, they made leveling in EQ a joke. But when the game first came out, it was quite difficult compared to WoW.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: AnthroAndStargate
So I started playing World of Warcraft the day I finished finals this Christmas and got back to my apartment. It was my second month to play - I stoped playing about six months before that....

My thoughts? Hell of a game but it takes SO long to level. I do not have the time to committ to getting to 60 (Which is the only reason I really want to play) and I am not willing to give up my life and what I have to have my e-penis grow thanks to some zeros and one's stored on Blizzard's server.

Yet at the same time I can't quit.

How do you feel about WoW?

BTW thanks for those of you that suggested I switch to a PVP server. I have a guild on Ravenholdt (the new RPPVP server) and it ROCKS!

After 2 weeks I got to 39. I think if you've had a lot of experience in other MMOs it helps to make leveling easy.

 

[Malak]

I had already played dozens and dozens of MMO's long before WoW came out, so I wasn't impressed in the least. There's nothing new that it adds to the genre so I didn't play it much. I'm looking forward to Age of Conan now, it's actually trying some new stuff out.