I don't understand your annoyance at having to participate in groups for high-end content. What other way is there to do it? Are you proposing lvl 60 instances with single-person limits?Originally posted by: Malladine
what way are you speaking of? If you mean you have to group with (many) other people to accomplish any of the high end lvl 60 instance/encounter stuff the answer is a miserable yes. I suppose at lvl 60 you could just pvp the whole time but that's about all that's available to solo players at 60. That and slaughtering what you can for the hell of it and perhaps the hope of some rares or an epic or two.
Originally posted by: Malladine
what way are you speaking of? If you mean you have to group with (many) other people to accomplish any of the high end lvl 60 instance/encounter stuff the answer is a miserable yes. I suppose at lvl 60 you could just pvp the whole time but that's about all that's available to solo players at 60. That and slaughtering what you can for the hell of it and perhaps the hope of some rares or an epic or two.
What annoyance? It's miserable that 95% of high end content that's worth anything is raid oriented.Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
I don't understand your annoyance at having to participate in groups for high-end content. What other way is there to do it? Are you proposing lvl 60 instances with single-person limits?Originally posted by: Malladine
what way are you speaking of? If you mean you have to group with (many) other people to accomplish any of the high end lvl 60 instance/encounter stuff the answer is a miserable yes. I suppose at lvl 60 you could just pvp the whole time but that's about all that's available to solo players at 60. That and slaughtering what you can for the hell of it and perhaps the hope of some rares or an epic or two.
Wow - you really are a MMORPG noob.Originally posted by: DPmaster
I started about 3 weeks ago and so far my highest character is lvl 16. I don't have the slightest clue what some people here are talking about in terms of instances, raids, etc. since I'm new. I currently play on a "normal" server (as opposed to PvP or RPG)...are these instances, raids, etc. available on the "normal" servers or are they strictly PvP or RPG?
Originally posted by: Malladine
What annoyance? It's miserable that 95% of high end content that's worth anything is raid oriented.Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
I don't understand your annoyance at having to participate in groups for high-end content. What other way is there to do it? Are you proposing lvl 60 instances with single-person limits?Originally posted by: Malladine
what way are you speaking of? If you mean you have to group with (many) other people to accomplish any of the high end lvl 60 instance/encounter stuff the answer is a miserable yes. I suppose at lvl 60 you could just pvp the whole time but that's about all that's available to solo players at 60. That and slaughtering what you can for the hell of it and perhaps the hope of some rares or an epic or two.
I suppose more 5 man/10 man limited instances for starters. Raids are very impersonal and in the few i've taken part in I feel like a heal bot and nothing more. It's not fun in the slightest.Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Malladine
What annoyance? It's miserable that 95% of high end content that's worth anything is raid oriented.Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
I don't understand your annoyance at having to participate in groups for high-end content. What other way is there to do it? Are you proposing lvl 60 instances with single-person limits?Originally posted by: Malladine
what way are you speaking of? If you mean you have to group with (many) other people to accomplish any of the high end lvl 60 instance/encounter stuff the answer is a miserable yes. I suppose at lvl 60 you could just pvp the whole time but that's about all that's available to solo players at 60. That and slaughtering what you can for the hell of it and perhaps the hope of some rares or an epic or two.
So what would you expect it to be? Soloable? How do you keep that from being trivialized by other players?
Originally posted by: Malladine
I suppose more 5 man/10 man limited instances for starters. Raids are very impersonal and in the few i've taken part in I feel like a heal bot and nothing more. It's not fun in the slightest.Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Malladine
What annoyance? It's miserable that 95% of high end content that's worth anything is raid oriented.Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
I don't understand your annoyance at having to participate in groups for high-end content. What other way is there to do it? Are you proposing lvl 60 instances with single-person limits?Originally posted by: Malladine
what way are you speaking of? If you mean you have to group with (many) other people to accomplish any of the high end lvl 60 instance/encounter stuff the answer is a miserable yes. I suppose at lvl 60 you could just pvp the whole time but that's about all that's available to solo players at 60. That and slaughtering what you can for the hell of it and perhaps the hope of some rares or an epic or two.
So what would you expect it to be? Soloable? How do you keep that from being trivialized by other players?
No, I don't expect intentional solo dungeon content, the world outside of the dungeons provides enough exclusively solo action imo. Dungeons by their nature should be out of bounds to single players who aren't many levels higher than the norm for that particular dungeon.
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Wow - you really are a MMORPG noob.Originally posted by: DPmaster
I started about 3 weeks ago and so far my highest character is lvl 16. I don't have the slightest clue what some people here are talking about in terms of instances, raids, etc. since I'm new. I currently play on a "normal" server (as opposed to PvP or RPG)...are these instances, raids, etc. available on the "normal" servers or are they strictly PvP or RPG?
I assume you've at least grouped up with people to accomplish some quests together? An instance is simply an area that you enter and spawns the entire dungeon only for your group (that is, no one else can enter - if they do, they get their own copy of the map.) This allows your group to accomplish your quests without worrying about interference from other players, as well as allowing more scripted events, etc for your party. If you are Alliance, the first instance you will encounter will probably be The Deadmines. You can tell an instance from it's blue-swirly entrance that causes a loading screen.
A raid is simply a "Really Big" group. Essentially, it is a group of groups. WoW lets you have a maximum of 8 5-man groups in a raid, for a total of 40 players. And yes, you'll need that many players to bring down some of the huge bosses in later instances. And yes, instances, raids, etc are available on all servers.
Basically, everything you do up until your first instance is pretty much just a warm-up to the real game, IMO. You get ~20 levels to get a feel for the game, learn your character and his/her basic abilities, practice fighting, healing, running, etc. Once you have these basics down, then you join up with other players and run instances to get better gear and complete difficult quests, while playing (hopefully) as part of a team.
Originally posted by: DPmaster
I think I've partied maybe twice my entire time playing. Never really had the need to party with anyone, and I learned to only attack monsters by themselves...never the groups unless I want to run alot .
I beat Guild Wars several times without ever partying with anybody so I went into this game with that mindset...looks like I'll have to change that mindset once I get to the latter parts of the game.
Originally posted by: Rage187
60 mage Whisperwind.
Rag/BWL/MC/Onyxia, was totally geared in teir 2 epics and I sold.