World's most pathetic E6600?

[aka1nas]

Do you have any of the spread spectrum options enabled in the BIOS?

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: petercintn
To Snatchface-The Unbeliever series is one of the most incredible reads I ever enjoyed.

I loved the books because the writing was so great. I hated the character of Thomas Covenant, maybe in itself an indication of how great the writing was? Dude was always whining and feeling sorry for himself, and unable to do anything because he was feeling sorry for himself.

Originally posted by: RamIt
Always wondered why people think a chip is a dud if it overclocks higher than the highest chip offered by the manufacturer.

Because some random person on some internet forum claimed to get a higher speed, thus creating false expectations?

 

[five4o]

Got my 6600 running at 3.2 9x356 with 1.425V
Temps are 34°c idle and 44°c load, NB temps are 38°c and 45°c respectively

 

[igloo15]

I get about 3.2ghz on my F batch e6600 with idle temps at 40 and load at 60 voltage is 1.42 I only have a zalman 9500 so I don't think I will be going any higher but it runs like a dream got 11109 on 3dmark06 with a 2500 score on cpu

 

[Zinthar]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: petercintn
To Snatchface-The Unbeliever series is one of the most incredible reads I ever enjoyed.

I loved the books because the writing was so great. I hated the character of Thomas Covenant, maybe in itself an indication of how great the writing was? Dude was always whining and feeling sorry for himself, and unable to do anything because he was feeling sorry for himself.

Originally posted by: RamIt
Always wondered why people think a chip is a dud if it overclocks higher than the highest chip offered by the manufacturer.

Because some random person on some internet forum claimed to get a higher speed, thus creating false expectations?

Please understand that this thread is not one where I'm complaining that I only got an incredible 25% overclock on chip. I was just checking with other enthusiasts for feedback to see if I did everything right to help my chip reach the fastest stable overclock I can give it. If there's a way I don't have to use 1.55v to reach 3.2 Ghz then I'd love to lower the voltage.

I didn't have false expectations. I realistically understood that I was buying a week 40 or later Core 2 Duo, which seemingly are binned differently than their predecessors that seemed to go above 3 Ghz at stock Vcore.

And from what I read I understood that 3.4 Ghz was probably a reasonable expectation for the mean overclock potential of my E6600 post-week 40 (at around 1.45v or so). I thought I would be on the favorable side of this considering that I was using high quality components (Seasonic S12 650w PSU, Crucial Ballistix RAM, Bad Axe 2, & Tuniq Tower 120 w/ arctic silver 5).

So by only reaching 3.2 Ghz @ 1.55v I believe I'm well on the low end of the normal distribution curve of E6600 potential overclock. Make no mistake, I'm perfectly happy to pay $230 for a CPU that nets 3.2 Ghz -- I was just hoping I wouldn't have to pump 1.55v into it to get it there when the majority of people with similar cooling to mine are able to reach such speeds at around 1.425v or less.

Oh well. So long as my chip was well manufactured and can stand the 1.55v on a daily basis, I'll be perfectly happy.

 

[lopri]

Yup. This forum is named "CPU/Processors and Overclocking".

Your expectation sounds perfectly reasonable and if my chip was doing that I'd be pissed off. (Especially with all the other high-end stuff you've got for this setup)

Unfortunately I can't help much since I don't own that board. I had played with it for about a week or so with Xeon 3060 and I remember it as a solid and easy-to-setup board.

If you think you've exhausted all means for improving overclock, sell the chip to someone who doesn't overclock. There will be a small monetary loss but it's better off that way than agonizing over time.

 

[nealh]

Originally posted by: Zinthar

Originally posted by: Xvys
Maybe try upping the juice. If I ever get a BSOD or freeze-up, it's always the ram. Too fast, too tight or not enough juice.

That's what I had thought as well from previous experience, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I was running underclocked at full voltage -- Crucial Ballistix D9's, rated for 4-4-4-12 @ DDR2-800 @ 2.2v. I've been running them around 700 Mhz... they should be fine. Used a different 2 sticks as well and got the same results.

I ran them 1:1 in both the motherboard's 1066 & 1333 straps.

I tested yesterday giving much more juice to the NB (1.45v). It did nothing for my overclock -- can POST at 370 FSB, but Vista is unstable there almost immediately.

I went with the following as my final settings:
Bad Axe 2 BIOS 2692
FSB: 356 Mhz (x9 for 3.2 Ghz)
vCore: 1.550v
NB: 1.325v
MCH: 1.60v
Ref. Frequency: 266 Mhz
RAM Frequency: 667 Mhz (for a 5:4 divider)
RAM: 890 Mhz, 4-4-4-12 @ 2.2V

With these settings I'm running 12 hours+ Orthos stable. 3.4 Ghz would have been nice, but this 44G chip can't make it there. Assuming the 1.55v Vcore doesn't degrade my overclock in the next year or two, this should carry me through until something appealing with 8 cores appears.

Any thoughts on whether 1.55v is too much and will damage the chip. Most of the time the chip is idling with core temps in the upper 30's with this voltage. Does the voltage really matter if I can keep the heat down on my components? And also, if anyone has any other thoughts on things I could try that might be causing poor performance, I'm welcome to suggestions.

on the Badaxe2 ..several have found that too much voltage on the vfsb amd mch can hurt

I able to run my mobo at 390fsb with 1.3vfsb and 1.575v on mch for 25hr blend stable...

as for 1.55v ..is this bios setting?
my badaxe2 rev 505 is way off on voltages
1.525v powerslope on (this lowers vdroop)...
bios reads 1.535 idle
speedfan idle 1.54v/1.53v load
DMM(2 separate ones)...idle 1.50/1.51...load is 1.5v


1.55v is max I would use on these chips with one caveat...keep temps at reasonable level..I would say no higher than 70C on air
also VID maybe important...my L628A266 is 1.325v...some are lower and some are higher...so this may allow for more vcore if the VID(default vcore is higher to start with???)

 

[gramboh]

Sorry if this was already discussed, but why not drop the multi to 8 and try 400-450 range FSB? Or does the Intel board not allow downward unlocked multis? Or maybe the Bad Axe 2 doesn't have an FSB hole issue.

My Week 46/2006 G E6600 does 3.2 @ 1.4 Bios (1.37 actual) and 3.4 @ 1.5 Bios (1.47 actual) on a P5B-Deluxe.

 

[craftech]

I just put together a computer using the BX2 and the E6600 with Super Talent DDR2-667. I am not looking to overclock right now, but after a month or two when everything seems like it is working properly I might try bringing it up to 3.0 at most.

I was wondering about the BIOS though. The BIOS is 2212

Should I leave that one on there?

Intel only shows the latest BIOS version on their website for updates - none of the others you guys were discussing are there.

Thanks for the help.

John

 

[nealh]

Originally posted by: craftech
I just put together a computer using the BX2 and the E6600 with Suoer Talent DDR2-667. I am not looking to overclock right now, but after a month or two when everything seems like it is working properly I might try it.

I was wondering about the BIOS though. The BIOS is 2212

Should I leave that one on there?

Intel only shows the latest BIOS version on their website for updates - none of the others you guys were discussing are there.

Thanks for the help.

John

the most stable OCing bios is 2333....but I think vista needs 2692 and newer

 

[craftech]

Originally posted by: nealh

Originally posted by: craftech
I just put together a computer using the BX2 and the E6600 with Suoer Talent DDR2-667. I am not looking to overclock right now, but after a month or two when everything seems like it is working properly I might try it.

I was wondering about the BIOS though. The BIOS is 2212

Should I leave that one on there?

Intel only shows the latest BIOS version on their website for updates - none of the others you guys were discussing are there.

Thanks for the help.

John

the most stable OCing bios is 2333....but I think vista needs 2692 and newer

I will never install VISTA. I plan to keep Windows XP Pro. Should I update to 2333? And if so where do I get it. They only show the latest on the Intel site.

John

EDIT: Found the page with the previous versions:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Filter_...perating%20Systems&lang=eng&sType=prev

Maybe I will update to 2333.

Will the Express BIOS Update Utility allow an older version like 2333 to be installed or do I have to do it from DOS?

Thanks.

 

[nealh]

I would burn the .iso to cd and do it that way..my board came with 2333

 

[Zinthar]

I want to follow up on my last post. I'm still running stable @ 3.2 Ghz w/ 1.55V in the BIOS (which ends up being 1.52V when read by speedfan).

I've noticed from monitoring the individual core temps in iTAT that my Core 0 is always 5-7 degrees warmer than my Core 1. I thought I had misapplied the AS5 or the Tuniq Tower, so I took it off, cleaned off the previous paste, and reapplied it. Same result.

I'm leaning towards thinking I got one great performing Core and one lousy Core, and am being held down by the latter. Oh well, 3.2Ghz on air is hardly worth scoffing at.