Worried about i7 heat.

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Originally posted by: michael19
http://img.inpai.com.cn/articl...-944d-a26a9d1323ae.jpg

Oh snap!

I also thought that i7 had to be 1366. Learn new shit everyday.

 

[michael19]

Originally posted by: lopri
Lynnfield's TDP is reportedly 95W, and desktop Bloomfield's (current i7) TDP is 130W. There are trades (such as number of memory channel, on-board/on-package PCIe, QPI, etc.) but it seems reasonable to assume Lynnfield will run cooler than Bloomfield given the same performance. Plus P55 boards should be much, much cooler than X58. It's sorta similar to what Intel has been doing. e.g. 975X -> P965, X48 -> P45.

Heat and Performance/Watt are different things, despite being closely related often times. Personally I'm less sensitive to power usage than to heat/noise as long as my PSUs can handle the load. Devoted F@H folks might have different preferences..

Thanks for the information. And i'm a little more sensitive to power usage juts because it's cheaper and I don't have a lot of $ to spend every month on energy costs. There might not be a lot of differences during idle, since i've seen 1366 i7s idle really low, but the load power usage will probably be better, which is attractive to me.

I think i'll be waiting for the i5. But the one thing that scares me is that i'll be getting the 1st gen of the new technology. I'll be getting the rev 1.0 of the mobo, and the first stepping technology of the cpu.

 

[ilkhan]

Originally posted by: jandlecack
You're clearly a moron.

The "i7 on P55" you so happily claim exists IS THE CORE i5.

I'm sick of arguing with an idiot, please take your crap elsewhere and stop confusing newbies.

While my opinion of taltamir declined significantly recently, he's correct on this issue.

The current i7 line has chips on s1366 only.
The i7 line will, in the future, have chips on both sockets.

 

[jandlecack]

Fair enough, I admit I wasn't aware of that. Still, I find it far fetched to make implications and recommendations on whether the "current" i7 or the "new" i7 will be a better buy. I think there will be a bigger divide between i5 and i7 than i7 and i7.

 

[ilkhan]

not really. The different system architectures have vastly different motherboard setups and goals. CPU performance, for the same cores/cache/clocks will be very similar. But s1156 won't have gulftowns available, nor triple channel memory, nor x16/x16 X-fire/SLI. s1156 will be marginally cheaper (for the same performance level), have the on-package PCI-E controller, and use less power. Within those confines, it depends on what YOUR goals are as to which is superior.

Just remember that the individual cores are [essentially] identical, the cache is the same, and clock speeds aren't vastly superior (for quad v quad) in either direction. Socket choice has more to do with auxiliary questions than the CPU performance.

For the OP, I don't see a budget mentioned. s1156 will definitely offer less heat output, but if you have the budget for something like H20 to an outside rad (or like a closet) that would prevent most of the heat from being dumped into the room. Or a clarkdale (s1153/32nm/dual+HT) might be an option. If this is a gaming machine, watch the GPU consumption, LCD usage, and PSU efficiency as well. All can make a bigger difference than 30W of CPU output (my LCDs use 100W between them. At 500W, 83->88% avg PSU efficiency is 35W, while GPUs can use 50-300W by themselves.)

 

[Deadtrees]

jandlecack,
You insulted taltamir based on your knowledge that lacked knowledge. Your stupidity insulted taltamir while making fun of youself.
Even after taltamir and others pointed out how you're wrong, you had to justify yourself without apologizing. Think about your actions and yourself. Don't be stupid and stop acting like a crybaby.

Let me borrow your words:
'You're clearly a moron.
I'm sick of giving advice to an idiot, please take your crap elsewhere and stop confusing newbies and yourself.'

 

[jandlecack]

I don't have to apologize for shit, this is the Internet and if you think anything posted here is of any importance whatsoever, I pity you.

 

[Grnkjr0]

An apologi is needed without question. A gentleman would have done that in a flash and it would not have made him less of a man. This is the internet? What does that mean - that good behaviour is not needed......

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: jandlecack
I don't have to apologize for shit, this is the Internet and if you think anything posted here is of any importance whatsoever, I pity you.

Tagging this thread for self-pwn nominations later this year.

 

[jandlecack]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: jandlecack
I don't have to apologize for shit, this is the Internet and if you think anything posted here is of any importance whatsoever, I pity you.

Tagging this thread for self-pwn nominations later this year.

Holy shit someone is wrong on the Internets, stop the presses.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: jandlecack

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: jandlecack
I don't have to apologize for shit, this is the Internet and if you think anything posted here is of any importance whatsoever, I pity you.

Tagging this thread for self-pwn nominations later this year.

Holy shit someone is wrong on the Internets, stop the presses.

You bet!

 

[bleucharm28]

hey michael19

The Ci7 is an awsome processor. it be cool if you can get D0 stepping for better overclocking. That's if you care about OCing. The heatsink im using the Thermalright U120 Black with 2 Noctua Fans Push/Pull at about 1200rpm.

My temperatures is about 38 35 37 32 give or take +/-3 depending on room temperature. I did not lap my TRUE because i'am happy with these temperature. it is oc'd at 3.2g, disabled speed step. I also tested with Prime95 with FFT for couple of hours and temperature never made it pass 62C. I am a happy camper, coimng from AMD Athlon 64 939 4000+. (BIG SMILE)

In my opinion, if i'm going to overclock anything beyond 3.4g, i would go watercooling. which is what i'll be doing in month or two. i have to mod the case to make everything fit, and pretty; all that good stuff.
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[michael19]

Thanks! I think i'll wait for an i5. I don't want to do SLI, and i'm expecting the 6 core processors to be like > $400 so upgrading to that is pretty much out of the question, and triple vs dual channel memory has shown to be not much of a difference. So it fits my needs of a high performance but low power system and heat system.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Originally posted by: michael19
Thanks! I think i'll wait for an i5. I don't want to do SLI, and i'm expecting the 6 core processors to be like > $400 so upgrading to that is pretty much out of the question, and triple vs dual channel memory has shown to be not much of a difference. So it fits my needs of a high performance but low power system and heat system.

You want i7, not i5 for a quad core. Official branding of most Lynnfield will be i5 so you'll be getting very low end versions if it was i5 quad core. Just clarifying again.

 

[michael19]

Originally posted by: IntelUser2000

Originally posted by: michael19
Thanks! I think i'll wait for an i5. I don't want to do SLI, and i'm expecting the 6 core processors to be like > $400 so upgrading to that is pretty much out of the question, and triple vs dual channel memory has shown to be not much of a difference. So it fits my needs of a high performance but low power system and heat system.

You want i7, not i5 for a quad core. Official branding of most Lynnfield will be i5 so you'll be getting very low end versions if it was i5 quad core. Just clarifying again.

Why are i5s a low end quad core? The benchmarks that have been released are very competitive with the current LGA-1366 i7

 

[ilkhan]

i5s will have 4 threads. Thus if its a quad, no HT.