Worried about the PS3 fate..

[RadiclDreamer]

IMHO

1. Too Expensive
2. I dont want nor care about blu ray
3. Isnt 100% backwards compatible
4. Impossible to get
5. Games arent innovative, just the same crap with prettier graphics
6. Xbox 360 is 90% the console the ps3 is with more games and vastly superior online support
7. Wii is pwning due to innovation
8. No Virbration
9. Rip off motion sensors
10. I dont like sony because of the "buy our sh1t cause we're sony" mentality

 

[preslove]

I kind of foresaw its current troubles. Most people were expecting very high ebay prices, but I expected the prices to fall back down. IMO the PS3 would not have sold out instantly, everywhere in North America if it weren't for speculators. It might have taken only a day or two, but not instantly. Considering the glut of systems on ebay, I don't think demand or sony fanboi-ism is anywhere near as high as people say.

The system is $200 more than an xbox 360, has very few exclusive titles worth a damn, and can only be had by going through a random reseller. Most people are going to just get an 360. Developers see this and will be much less likely to sign exclusive deals with sony, and might just sign them with microsoft.

I think, at most, the ps3 will garner around the same market share as the GameCube did. I think there's a real possibility, however, that it will turn into another Dreamcast because Sony loses a lot of money per system sold.

 

[mrrman]

I couldnt care less if Sony makes it or not...they rushed this POS to the marketplace and now they will see where there true following is....only on Japan

 

[tweakmm]

I already called it a Wii thread, sony has one more console left, two max.

 

[destrekor]

wow so much hatred. gotta love the 'console wars', because you can see how childish everyone gets because they want or don't want certain systems to fail or dominate.
if only people were more educated.

1) you dont want PS3 to fail because competition is key to every console's success. competition brings innovation brings better games brings better support, from developers to manufacturer to fanbase.
2) hating the PS3 because it's sony is the most childish statement I have heard, and I am hearing it from grown men, and many many times repeated too.
3) how is backwards compatibility (or slightly not 100%) a downfall? NO SYSTEM IS 100% BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE! jesus cry me a river. keep your old system like most people do and there won't be an issue. or? wait as over time the system will get better as firmware updates are already planned to help fix backwards compatibility!
4) don't hate because Sony is a practical business. I am sick of people complaining that Sony steals ideas. Wake up to the real word. Companies succeed based on watching what other companies do, and doing it better. The PS3's motion controls are amazing, it just takes games to use it right. And having it implemented in a REAL controller kind of limits the motions one can do, but it's still the idea that Sony has a more accurate motion sensing system (almost TOO accurate, causing problems for some people in some games)
5) stop complaining about games. Give it a year and see what games are released and how much more enjoyable they are!

im with TallBill on this one... not sure about next year (would be amazing), but I'll be more safe in my bet and say that before the turn of the PS3's third year in the market, Sony will release a Dualshock3/SixAxis2, that has both motion sensing and force feedback.

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: Murphy Durphy
Sony dropped the ball big time with this one, and thought their name and their name alone could carry them through this generation.

Microsoft stepped up big time, and has been listening and delivering to their users since day 1.

Maybe they can turn it around in a year or two when some better games get out there, but as of right now and in the foreseeable future, PS3 is a flop. :thumbsdown:

It's not Microsoft winning this round, it's Nintendo

 

[0roo0roo]

sonys generally dickish behavior deserves a swift kick to the nuts. thats what they are getting, as for ps3 fate, there are enough tools to hand sony cash that they will survive, don't worry.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: destrekor
Sony will release a Dualshock3/SixAxis2, that has both motion sensing and force feedback.

I'm not sure how something that is free and not connected to anything like a console controller can provide force feedback....it would need to be something like a wheel or a joystick.

 

[50cent1228]

it will suckkk

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: destrekor
Sony will release a Dualshock3/SixAxis2, that has both motion sensing and force feedback.

I'm not sure how something that is free and not connected to anything like a console controller can provide force feedback....it would need to be something like a wheel or a joystick.

i don't understand what you mean.
i consider rumble the same as force feedback, because depending on the type of game, and the new version of rumble tech that Immersion has made, basically turns it into what should be called force feedback.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: TallBill
I'm not sure why everyone is jumping all over the PS3's launch games. They are on par with Wii's launch games (or lack therof) as well as the 360's original crappy selection of games. Heck, it took a whole year before a monster game (Gears of War) came out for the 360.

When it comes to online stuff, the PS3 already has the potential to pass up microsoft's Live. Free connectivity is a plus, plus Sony has already explained that it has a feedback system in place for improving online performance and pushing out updates.

The system's superior specs are worth the extra few hundred dollars. Just remember how high the 360 was selling for, and you couldn't find it alone and not in a $800+ package for 5-6 months. 50 GB data discs and the 8-cell processer are going to lead to some seriously beautiful games.

By no means am I a PS3 fanboy, but I've done quite a bit more reading and research then a lot of the people posting uneducated comments here.

Lastly, you are dumb if you decided to wait to sell your PS3. Launch day, 1 day sale on ebay was the way to go. Just keep em all now. Lastly, I predict that within a year sony will release a controller that has motion sensing as well as the rumble feature.

Why don't you provide some proof to your claims then? I find it a little annoying when someone calls people out but does post anything to back it up.

Your opinion is about as valid as the one's saying, "PS3 SUXORS"...

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Murphy Durphy
Sony dropped the ball big time with this one, and thought their name and their name alone could carry them through this generation.

Microsoft stepped up big time, and has been listening and delivering to their users since day 1.

Maybe they can turn it around in a year or two when some better games get out there, but as of right now and in the foreseeable future, PS3 is a flop. :thumbsdown:

It's not Microsoft winning this round, it's Nintendo

Haha...uh...and you gather this information how? Still WAY too early to tell.

In MY OPINION I see it shaping like this, in the US:

1. Xbox 360
2. Wii
3. PS3

I'll own both, but Sony needs a little lesson in humility.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: destrekor
Sony will release a Dualshock3/SixAxis2, that has both motion sensing and force feedback.

I'm not sure how something that is free and not connected to anything like a console controller can provide force feedback....it would need to be something like a wheel or a joystick.

i don't understand what you mean.
i consider rumble the same as force feedback, because depending on the type of game, and the new version of rumble tech that Immersion has made, basically turns it into what should be called force feedback.

I don't consider rumble force feedback. Force feedback to me is something like the gaming steering wheels that mimic the same kind of feeling as if you were steering a real car. Rumble is just rumble.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: destrekor
Sony will release a Dualshock3/SixAxis2, that has both motion sensing and force feedback.

I'm not sure how something that is free and not connected to anything like a console controller can provide force feedback....it would need to be something like a wheel or a joystick.

i don't understand what you mean.
i consider rumble the same as force feedback, because depending on the type of game, and the new version of rumble tech that Immersion has made, basically turns it into what should be called force feedback.

I don't consider rumble force feedback. Force feedback to me is something like the gaming steering wheels that mimic the same kind of feeling as if you were steering a real car. Rumble is just rumble.

oh okay I gotcha now. I was indeed kind of mixing the two terms. Kind of forgot what force feedback really was.

sorry for the confusion, and thanks for clearing it up.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: TallBill
The system's superior specs are worth the extra few hundred dollars. Just remember how high the 360 was selling for, and you couldn't find it alone and not in a $800+ package for 5-6 months. 50 GB data discs and the 8-cell processer are going to lead to some seriously beautiful games.

By no means am I a PS3 fanboy, but I've done quite a bit more reading and research then a lot of the people posting uneducated comments here.

Well, if you had done your research then you'd know that cell processor is only using 7 SPEs and not 8 (one is disabled for yield reasons). You'd also know that one of the SPEs will be dedicated to the PS3 OS full time. You'd also know that the PS3 OS eats up almost 100MBs of the PS3's 256MBs of available memory.

The PS3 games are going to look nice but I think ultimately it will be a wash in terms of graphics between the PS3 and 360. Gameplay and IP is going to be what matters.

Honestly, I hope all three consoles succeed because that is ultimately good for us the consumer. However, I wish there was a way to give the Sony execs who have been spouting lies (spring 2006 worldwide launch!), misinformation (Resistance can only run on Blu-Ray!), and ridiculous hype (dual 1080p at 120fps!) a hard kick to the nuts.

 

[BillyBatson]

iiiiiiiii waited in line for 3 days for the ps3! i was number 1 in line! the plan was to sell it. i waited with 2 other friends. #2 in line we got him to open his and he regrets it. #3 he took his back to frys 2 days ago because there is no longer a profit. me i listed mine on ebay for a 3 day auction, there is a day and 3 hours left and it is only at $1.25 even though the heading is right and i bought a border for it! i don't get how other auctions that have more time than mine have more views and bids! mine has 18 bids, 4 of them are my friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i took back my ps3 today to frys. you should have seen the look on their faces =\

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: TallBill
The system's superior specs are worth the extra few hundred dollars. Just remember how high the 360 was selling for, and you couldn't find it alone and not in a $800+ package for 5-6 months. 50 GB data discs and the 8-cell processer are going to lead to some seriously beautiful games.

By no means am I a PS3 fanboy, but I've done quite a bit more reading and research then a lot of the people posting uneducated comments here.

Well, if you had done your research then you'd know that cell processor is only using 7 SPEs and not 8 (one is disabled for yield reasons). You'd also know that one of the SPEs will be dedicated to the PS3 OS full time. You'd also know that the PS3 OS eats up almost 100MBs of the PS3's 256MBs of available memory.

The PS3 games are going to look nice but I think ultimately it will be a wash in terms of graphics between the PS3 and 360. Gameplay and IP is going to be what matters.

Honestly, I hope all three consoles succeed because that is ultimately good for us the consumer. However, I wish there was a way to give the Sony execs who have been spouting lies (spring 2006 worldwide launch!), misinformation (Resistance can only run on Blu-Ray!), and ridiculous hype (dual 1080p at 120fps!) a hard kick to the nuts.

your entitled to be upset with them... but they also aren't always knowing of what the final product is going to be able to do. more over, Sony should force these guys to just shut the hell up sometimes.
as for the Resistance and blu-ray thing.. not really sure why you think this is a lie. Resistance takes up around 20gb. Now sure, it's like 7gb for FMV, 7gb for the game, the rest is audio and other stuff.. but that's a complete product.
not sure if the 360's insane compression tech can manage to squeeze that onto a DVD, seeing as a good portion is FMV and well... that's already compressed. not sure how well you can compress something that is already compressed (take an mpeg2 video and put it in a rar... not much is chopped off of overall size).

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Murphy Durphy
Sony dropped the ball big time with this one, and thought their name and their name alone could carry them through this generation.

Microsoft stepped up big time, and has been listening and delivering to their users since day 1.

Maybe they can turn it around in a year or two when some better games get out there, but as of right now and in the foreseeable future, PS3 is a flop. :thumbsdown:

It's not Microsoft winning this round, it's Nintendo

Haha...uh...and you gather this information how? Still WAY too early to tell.

In MY OPINION I see it shaping like this, in the US:

1. Xbox 360
2. Wii
3. PS3

I'll own both, but Sony needs a little lesson in humility.

I'm talking worldwide, not US.

my awesome opinion, nay fact, that everyone else should take as well:

1. Wii
2. Xbox360
3. PS3

 

[AlgaeEater]

The PS3 is taking a back seat this generation, no questions asked. Doesn't mean Sony is going to go away or be crippled from it, nor does it mean anything else that hasn't been already said here in these replies.

Sony's had it's time in the sun with the PS and the PS2, but their PS3 strategy and implementation reminds me of Nintendo's N64. You remember the N64 right? That was Nintendo's worst console in history, and even though everyone's overjoyed with the Wii and the DS right now, I remember a time when everyone was spitting doom and gloom for Nintendo during the N64 and Playstation 1 days.

Microsoft is the real suprise here in my opinion. They did pretty well for themselves given the circumstances and now actually are holding their own with the 360. They might bring back the "third leg" in the console industry back when Sega use to be in that spot.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: totalcommand
I'm talking worldwide, not US.

my awesome opinion, nay fact, that everyone else should take as well:

1. Wii
2. Xbox360
3. PS3

In Japan the PS3 has already outsold the Xbox despite its 1-year head start.

If nothing else, like Tom Waits the PS3 is "Big in Japan"

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: AlgaeEater
The PS3 is taking a back seat this generation, no questions asked. Doesn't mean Sony is going to go away or be crippled from it, nor does it mean anything else that hasn't been already said here in these replies.

Sony's had it's time in the sun with the PS and the PS2, but their PS3 strategy and implementation reminds me of Nintendo's N64. You remember the N64 right? That was Nintendo's worst console in history, and even though everyone's overjoyed with the Wii and the DS right now, I remember a time when everyone was spitting doom and gloom for Nintendo during the N64 and Playstation 1 days.

Microsoft is the real suprise here in my opinion. They did pretty well for themselves given the circumstances and now actually are holding their own with the 360. They might bring back the "third leg" in the console industry back when Sega use to be in that spot.

im thinking, give Sony some time, let the PS3 get it's first price cut, let the stellar games come... and the PS3 might enjoy more sales than the 360. No way is this generation matching last generation, with the number of PS2 sales. It will be more equal this generation, but I think, worldwide, PS3 will fare better. Japanese LOVE the PS3. they should since they get it cheaper too. the bastards.

im not sure if the PS3 is really competing, it seems, as far as adult sales are going, that its a system that they have in addition to a PS3 or 360.
overall prediction?
1 - Wii
2 - PS3
3 - 360

 

[zerolus]

I say give it a year or so for the good games to come out for the ps3. The ps2 had a pretty stale launch lineup as well. If none of the other consoles get some good JRPGs it'll help give sony an edge in the long run

 

[Emrys]

The main problem with the PS3 is that Sony is using it to push its Blue Ray technology. Blue Ray held up the system and increased the price. I'm sure it is/will be a great system, but they didn't take the time needed to fully prepare Blue Ray and ready it for such a high demand. Once the technology settles and production cost combined with better titles/backing arrives the system should do alright. Just my guess.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Emrys
The main problem with the PS3 is that Sony is using it to push its Blue Ray technology. Blue Ray held up the system and increased the price. I'm sure it is/will be a great system, but they didn't take the time needed to fully prepare Blue Ray and ready it for such a high demand. Once the technology settles and production cost combined with better titles/backing arrives the system should do alright. Just my guess.

Blu-Ray is doing fine. now it just needs a steady release of movies, both new and older.

 

[Itchrelief]

Originally posted by: BillyBatson
iiiiiiiii waited in line for 3 days for the ps3! i was number 1 in line! the plan was to sell it. i waited with 2 other friends. #2 in line we got him to open his and he regrets it. #3 he took his back to frys 2 days ago because there is no longer a profit. me i listed mine on ebay for a 3 day auction, there is a day and 3 hours left and it is only at $1.25 even though the heading is right and i bought a border for it! i don't get how other auctions that have more time than mine have more views and bids! mine has 18 bids, 4 of them are my friends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i took back my ps3 today to frys. you should have seen the look on their faces =\

Good thing you kept the receipt this time. Coulda been hell.