Worst video card comparison I've seen in a while.

peleejosh

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Also they didnt test any pci-e nvidia cards. This looks like a ATI lovefest to me. IE Look how much a** our high end ATI cards kick.
 

Concillian

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Yeah, my alternate title was "How to write a biased review"

Part of why this is so bad is that it's so lopsided, I settled on worst I've seen in a while.
 

BW86

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lol, wow

PCI-Express high end system:
* AMD X2 - 4800+ Dual core

* 1GB Dual Channel Corsair memory

* MSI K8N Diamond mainboard

* 250GB Maxtor 7T250P0 HDD (8MB, 9.3ms)

* 350W power supply

* DVD/CD drive

* 19 inch CRT

AGP system:
* AMD Athlon XP 2600+

* 1GB Single Channel Twinmos memory

* VIA Chipset mainboard

* 80GB Maxtor HDD

* 300W power supply

* DVD/CD drive

* 19 inch CRT
 

RampantAndroid

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WTF is this??? If you are going to compare the two interfaces, you need identical proc/sound card...the works....jeez, I don't do bench testing and I can figure that out.

PCI-E really has no advantage...YET (this is in single card solutions....im ignoring SLI for now) No single vid card can even push AGPs bandwidth cap...not the X850 (that POS) or any 6800Us.

If you have too much money, then sli, sure....
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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This just shows once again what all you AGP fanboys who know nothing and are ignorant what I have been saying for a year now. THE PCI-ex is dominant! It destroys AGP in every benchmark and AGP might as well go home because it is majorly pawned in the benchmarks. I can't believe this forum has turned into such an AGP troll fest. Why don't you all turn off your computers and go out and play kickball because you all don't deserve to be on this forum spreading this garbage. :laugh:

Edit: Yes, the above is satire
 

gac009

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Where is the 6600gt, if your gonna talk midrange and your should at least mention the 6600gt.
If your gonna talk high end you should at least mention the 6800gt.

the 9800pro seems to beat out the 6800 almost every time and the x700le beats out both. the x700le cost like 110$ so I kinda wish it really could beat out a 6800, save myself some money.
 

ryanv12

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Originally posted by: gac009
Where is the 6600gt, if your gonna talk midrange and your should at least mention the 6600gt.
If your gonna talk high end you should at least mention the 6800gt.

the 9800pro seems to beat out the 6800 almost every time and the x700le beats out both. the x700le cost like 110$ so I kinda wish it really could beat out a 6800, save myself some money.

They really botched that test. Who puts a 4800+ against an XP 2600+ anyways? They should've used an AGP 939 motherboard so they could use the 4800+ there as well. I have to agree with OP, that's one of the worst tests I've ever seen :thumbsdown:
 

nitromullet

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Yeah, even aside from their bizarre system comparisons, I can't imagine how a 6800nu paired with an Athlon XP 2600+ would only score 2 FPS even will all the eye candy turned up in BF2. Did they actually install the ForceWare drivers or just keep the standard Windows VGA drivers?
 

Sword

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This is plain BS...

They seriously need some help to understand computers...

I find it strange that a 9800 can beat any kind of Nvidia GPU....at any resolution...


 

MBrown

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Haha. What a knee slapper. This makes THG look decent. I have a friend that would LOVE this review and would think ist 100% legit. I just wanna slap him.
 

Concillian

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There is ONE useful piece of information in the article.

The 9800 performs better relative to teh 6800 than I would expect.
This seems to indicate that, consistent with the previous titles in the BF series, BF2 will run faster on ATi cards.

However, given the rest of the review I would only take that as a potential indicator and not total proof. Supposedly Firing Squad has a BF2 performance comparison, but I have to wait until I go home to read that one, my work blocks Firing Squad.
 

MustISO

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Besides the fact of the hardware used, I was really surprised they didn't have a 6800GT.
 

IEC

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Originally posted by: MBrown
Haha. What a knee slapper. This makes THG look decent. I have a friend that would LOVE this review and would think ist 100% legit. I just wanna slap him.

THG haha *points and laughs at THG because Omar or whatever his name is sux*
 

Saga

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I think the funniest thing is that they had to label their images:

FPS (Higher is Better)

AKA no crap?
 

JokerRulez

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It is easy to see where they were trying to go with this review. It is just a review of a game in their minds. Two big problems:

1. They are making qualifying statements about various graphics cards. Their statement that the X850 is head and shoulders above all other cards, setting the standard to which all other GPU's must strive, is biased. Period. Such qualifying statments about video cards should be left out of this review. Unnecessary and is directly responsible for the backlash they are getting from this review.

2. By having only ATI cards on their extreme PCI-E bench machine it gives two misleading impressions. One, ATI cards are the only brand of cards available to test at this high end. Two, PCI-E is the only option for high end cards.

By having structured their review so that #2, above, occured the reviewers have turned this review into a statement about video cards, not about the game.

I believe this is an unintentional move on their parts. Sadly, that is not an excuse. In fact it is more damning. They are not competent enough to avoid such pitfalls and that speaks very poorly about the two reviewers. As representatives of their company, that then speaks poorly of the company, the website and calls into question all reviews past, present and future.

Like the 'New York Times' a year or two ago when they found a writer for their newspaper was creating stories, this company needs to take aggressive action to review their methodology and the company needs to take steps to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.

Too bad, it would have been interesting to read a good review with the idea they had for that one.

Joker
 
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