Would a sound card drop my CPU load?

Spikesoldier

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id keep the soundstorm

the hit your cpu takes isnt very big at all, especially with your CPU speed

id invest in more ram if youre not running a gig already.
 

natto fire

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/me predicts a flame-war in this thread about soundstorm. As if that horse hasn't already been beaten...

I have been using my soundstorm for a year or more now, and I have never had any problems with it. I assume you are using the digital out? I have heard that because of the poorer codecs and DSPs that mobo manufacturers used with soundstorm that the analog out sounds like poo. I have never tested this myself, but something to think about. I have never noticed much CPU utilization from mine, of course I usually only play MP3s/games etc. Not much mutli-channel decoding here.
 

alteredNate

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I read that NF4 would NEVER have soundstorm. We'll see...

That "7.1 channel audio" listed there doesn't mean it's soundstorm.
 

ribbon13

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Soundstorm as a addin sound card would be a serious thorn in Creative's side. Anyways...

Soundstorm died with Socket A.
R.I.P.
 
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I am not using the digital out. I am using a set of Z640 Logitechs. I have begun to notice the quality of regular voice reproduction is kinda sharp. I have to listen to three hours of Government lectures for a college course. I have also noticed that the gaming, music sound is not very clear.

You dont think that the SB Audigy2 Gamer Limited Edition would be better than my current onboard solution?
I read review afetr review of people saying that it is so much better than onboard sound.
 

Brian48

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Having had Soundstorm at one time, the A2 IS an improvement, but NOT in regards of less CPU overhead. The advantages of the A2 over your existing nForce2 is better DACs (A2, not original Audigy) when using analog and EAX 3.0/4.0. Your games will sound better, but will not necessarily run faster. In fact, enabling EAX 3.0 in most games will decrease your framerate. The added plus here is that you generally get a more satisifying gaming experience provided the game developer did their part and implemented the API properly.

If you want faster framerates, you should look into getting a faster CPU or video card. You should only consider upgrading your sound card if you want to expand your audio experience.
 

Brian48

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Originally posted by: HannibalTheCannibal
I read review afetr review of people saying that it is so much better than onboard sound.

They're generally refering to the cheap Realtek AC'97 or CMedia based on-board audio solutions. Some of the newer boards come with pretty decent audio, such as your nForce2 and some of the Envy VIA based solutions.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: alteredNate
I read that NF4 would NEVER have soundstorm. We'll see...

That "7.1 channel audio" listed there doesn't mean it's soundstorm.

Well look at this Chaintech Motherboard at newegg.com
It has quote "Onboard Audio: NVIDIA 7.1-channel audio " isnt that sound storm?


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-152-049&depa=1


the short answer to this guys question is yes, you can get a small boost in frame rates by using HARDWARE ACCERATED audio; meaing that is has a dedicadted DSP for processing audio right now only creative and nvidia make those any more. Every other card out there requires software and cpu time to do audio processing.

If you want a new sound card wait a few months for the new and completely redesigned card from creative called audigy zenith. Zenith will be the first card to support PCI-32 and PCI-express. Zenith is the first redesign for creative in over 5 years since introducing the audigy in '99 or 2000.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Googer
Well look at this Chaintech Motherboard at newegg.com
It has quote "Onboard Audio: NVIDIA 7.1-channel audio " isnt that sound storm?
Well, it couldn't be the original, because that one was just 5.1.
I think that it is more than likely just an incorrect product description, that the audio-controller present in the chipset (non-Soundstorm, I'm assuming), is capable of driving an 8-channel audio DAC, and is probably paired up with a Realtek ALC8xx chip.

Edit: Wow, that's a sweet-looking board, and the price is good too. Plenty of caps onboard, seems like.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: Googer
Well look at this Chaintech Motherboard at newegg.com
It has quote "Onboard Audio: NVIDIA 7.1-channel audio " isnt that sound storm?
Well, it couldn't be the original, because that one was just 5.1.
I think that it is more than likely just an incorrect product description, that the audio-controller present in the chipset (non-Soundstorm, I'm assuming), is capable of driving an 8-channel audio DAC, and is probably paired up with a Realtek ALC8xx chip.

Well, soundstorm has been around and on all nvidia chipsets since nFORCE2 and was a set feature of nforce3 but no Motherboard Manufacturer chose to implement it. If this is sound storm it is an updated and Improved version of it.
 

gobucks

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since you're not gonna have soundstorm on the nforce4, but rather the Realtek 850 chip in most cases (some have the older 650), I'd probably say the Audigy 2 ZS will sound better. Of course, I still use integrated sound, and I'm perfectly content with it for gaming and music listening. I also prefer nvidia's NVMixer to Realtek's driver package, but both have their advantages. Will it make a huge difference? Not really. If you're an audiophile, would you notice? More than likely. It's just whether or not the difference is worth $100 to you. I've heard that the Realtek solution is comparable to a Soundblaster Live! series card in terms of quality, so if you can get by on that, then I suggest you save your money for something else. Besides, Creative and Terratec are both coming out with completely new cards this year, which will use the extra PCIe bandwidth, so that might make for a more worthy upgrade.

As for CPU utilization, I don't think it's much. It might steal 1-2FPS from your game, but it's hardly worth a $100+ upgrade for that, now is it? Think about it - that $100 could buy you an X850XTPE instead (or go towards an SLI setup down the road), or more memory, or a faster CPU, or whatever - all these will buy you way more performance than the sound card.

And if you grab an audigy, that one looks like a ripoff. The Audigy 2 ZS can be found for about $80, and I've even seen them at bestbuy for $50 on sale before. I don't know what the "limited edition" means in this case, but my guess is it adds some features you'll never use and charges $40 more for them. The sound quality of all ZS boards is EXACTLY the same, as is the CPU usage. The only difference is stuff like the amount of output jacks, or external controls in the Platinum, etc. Not worth it, IMHO.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: gobucks


As for CPU utilization, I don't think it's much. It might steal 1-2FPS from your game, but it's hardly worth a $100+ upgrade for that, now is it? Think about it - that $100 could buy you an X850XTPE instead (or go towards an SLI setup down the road), or more memory, or a faster CPU, or whatever - all these will buy you way more performance than the sound card.

The real differance in frame rates seems to amount to 5%. Look at these bench marks.

http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/20050127/fortissimo-09.html
 
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