Would it be possible to invade the US?

[43st]

A classic invasion under the current conditions would probably fail. Change a few elements and it could easily be pulled off. For example block or sanction fuel and imports and America will fall under it's own girth. A resistance movement that is starving and immobile is pretty easily invaded, up keeping the invasion would be another matter though. But that can worked around with a "hearts and minds" campaign.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Amplifier
I was playing an invasion level in Rome Total war and I realized, it would be impossible to invade the US.

We can match any tank vs tank/ plane vs plane so it would come down to their soldiers vs us. And now that we all can buy automatic firearms I don't think the invaders would stand a chance against 300 million people exercising their second amendment rights.

*fires gun in air*

What do you think?


Edit: And I mean successfully invaded, not just occupy for a month or two.

absolutly... our security is a joke...
canada border is wide open in many points... mexico not much better...
coast guard spotty and ports wide open...
especially now with our Military streched as thin as it is...

 

[Tsaico]

Well, hold on to it, probably not, it would be like the Iraq situation where there were armed resistance everywhere, especially with your point that you made about 2nd amend. But assuming there was a problem with our response time concerning the military, the general population here is not equiped mentally or physically to handle an effective resistance. Besides, we already have a semi-military groups that would be everywhere, ie: police, SWAT, ATF. Not to mention, the US is a pretty good size country, so holding anything that size would be difficult, just based on coverage.

When we have people complaining and suing McDonalds for making them fat, how to you think they would react to taking and dodging a bullet? I suppowse some of the street gangs that are used to it from one another might stand a chance, but still, the vast and far majority do not exercise their 2nd amend. right and the ones who do, the majority of them wouldn't be of real use either.

So I would say invade, yes, it would be possible, but to effectively to do it, no.

 

[Tiamat]

A nuke in NYC, a nuke in Washington DC would be castostrophic (sp?).

 

[K1052]

Yes.

American resistance would soon wipe them out though. With millions of firearms in private hands and lots of semi-skilled and skilled shooters (hunters, police snipers, target shooters) it would be rather messy.

 

[CRXican]

is Rome Total War a good game?

 

[olds]

Please change the thread title to more accurately reflect what you are trying to say. You mean occupation. The ignorance in this thread is making me fear for the future of the US.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: K1052
Yes.

American resistance would soon wipe them out though. With millions of firearms in private hands and lots of semi-skilled and skilled shooters (hunters, police snipers, target shooters) it would be rather messy.

It means nothing if you're not organized. It's a fend for yourself society... and it would be rolled over by an army at a blinding speed.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Amplifier

Originally posted by: Taggart
Well, there is a difference btwn 'invasion' and 'conquered.' You mean conquered? Invaded, yes, conquered, yes, if nuclear weapons and/or other WMD's were involved.

Conquered would be asking too much for the invaders. I'll give them credit if they can hold California for over a year.

I'd give them credit if they continued to *want* to hold Cali after a year

 

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Please change the thread title to more accurately reflect what you are trying to say. You mean occupation. The ignorance in this thread is making me fear for the future of the US.

Happy? I'm off to the gun shop now...

 

[FoBoT]

with satellite coverage of the oceans , how do you think the hundreds of ships needed to transport any significant number of enemy troops/equipment are going "sneak" past the US Navy??
with our intelligence operations, how would china/india build the hundreds of transport ships required for such a task?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Amplifier

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Please change the thread title to more accurately reflect what you are trying to say. You mean occupation. The ignorance in this thread is making me fear for the future of the US.

Happy? I'm off to the gun shop now...

You better post a thread for buying advice, first.

 

[BigToque]

The US will not fall from an invasion. The US will fall from within.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
it would be very difficult

the US is #3 in population. we aren't even close to india/china, but how could india/china transport any significant number of thier billions to our land? how could they transport them without our our Navy (by FAR #1 Navy in the world) destroying the invaders?


watch the movie red dawn

Red Dawn is a joke. An act of terroism yes but a full scale invasion could occur but it wouldn't last long.

Ausm

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: CRXican
is Rome Total War a good game?

Yes, if you like Civ type games it's VERY good. Combat actually has meaning vs. in Civ where you attack and it resolves the combat immediately. In Rome, you actually fight out the battle with thousands of troops on the field at once.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: FoBoT
it would be very difficult

the US is #3 in population. we aren't even close to india/china, but how could india/china transport any significant number of thier billions to our land? how could they transport them without our our Navy (by FAR #1 Navy in the world) destroying the invaders?


watch the movie red dawn

Red Dawn is a joke. An act of terroism yes but a full scale invasion could occur but it wouldn't last long.

Ausm

i know, but who doesn't like to watch old patrick swayze movies?

 

[Chaotic42]

Que? Wait, I mean, si. Not by military force, but si, es possible.

 

[alkemyst]

Discounting Pearl Harbor....

I don't think a direct invasion would work, but I doubt anyone would try that.

What would first need to happen is a group of a few countries would band together....I am betting Krazy Korea, Chiina and perhaps one of the arab nations from a pact.

With that in hand, they can probably sign on a few other nations out of threat to attack, in exchange for base territory. They are going to need a good supply line....

I would say then take over South America first, then go for Canada. At the same time move out toward Japan to control that coastline....Russia would be a problem, but the country is hurting so bad they will more than likely have to sign on or fold.

At that point even if they don't attack en masse, but do terror strikes and random missle launchs...the US would be hurting.

One of the biggest problems I see is most of these new anti-terrorist laws are talking power out of the American Citizen's hands.

I strongly believe if every US citizen was required to be armed (the government wouldn't allow this), you'd have anger crimes still...however, you got people killing each other with ax handles and bats....that will always happen.

I think that would cut down on crime a lot, robbing a 7-11 and ordering everyone on the floor takes on a hold new meaning when half the store may be packing. Same thing with an invasion.

 

[UpGrD]

100 million privately owned firearms in this country. That statistic alone would make any invading force think twice. Also anyone that has done any amount of international traveling (I have). You soon realize that the average U.S. citizen compared to the average citizen abroad is by far more assertive, headstrong and aggressive. Good things to be in my view. Don't underestimate that overweight tard sitting in front his Xbox, he could be a problem for any invading force. I don't buy into the 'Soft American' concept. I was in the army and saw combat, take if from me it was the ones you least expected that excelled and also the ones you least expected that assumed the fetal position......

 

[BriGy86]

perhaps china and india could get over here if there were a land bridge again

 

[NuclearNed]

Play Red Alert 2, and indeed you will see that the US isn't as tough as one would think.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Play Red Alert 2, and indeed you will see that the US isn't as tough as one would think.

Absolutely, positively the most ignorant statement made in the history of mankind.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Thera
A classic invasion under the current conditions would probably fail. Change a few elements and it could easily be pulled off. For example block or sanction fuel and imports and America will fall under it's own girth. A resistance movement that is starving and immobile is pretty easily invaded, up keeping the invasion would be another matter though. But that can worked around with a "hearts and minds" campaign.

I completely agree with this.. That's a pretty scary thought.

If they took out our support countries, we'd be fscked.

No gasoline alone, and society would crumble.. lol

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

I would say then take over South America first, then go for Canada. At the same time move out toward Japan to control that coastline....Russia would be a problem, but the country is hurting so bad they will more than likely have to sign on or fold.

Russia and Canada would be extremely hard to take over. They have the inhospitible weather on their side. They don't need to wipe out the invaders, all they have to do is stall them and block their supply lines. Then let the brutal winter take over.

That's what Russia has done for hundreds of years.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Russia and Canada would be extremely hard to take over. They have the inhospitible weather on their side. They don't need to wipe out the invaders, all they have to do is stall them and block their supply lines. Then let the brutal winter take over.

I think Canada would be very easy to conquer. It would take about 2 days.