Thread title: Would Rousey/Holm/Tate beat you in a fight?
I was unaware that everyone on this forum was 6' 8" tall, 440lbs and qualified as the world's stongest man.
They go balls to the wall, only to find out, everyone they get paired with, is impossible to hold down or control.
Nope, some of you idiots are saying that a 150lb MMA fighter could beat a 6-8 440lb man who deadlifts 1021lbs in a fight. I'm calling them out on it. Only way is nutshot or use a weapon.Thread title: Would Rousey/Holm/Tate beat you in a fight?
I was unaware that everyone on this forum was 6' 8" tall, 440lbs and qualified as the world's stongest man.
What if the guy is 290lbs heavier?One thing I learned (in my short bjj experiences) is to never underestimate the power of the elbow. It's all fun and games until one gets driven into your throat or other part of the body, as you're trying to maintain a position.
The other fundamental thing I quickly learned is patience and not to freak out when toppled by someone much larger and stronger.Take time to work your way out of a position. It's counter-intuitive to not panic as a noob, particularly when you're claustrophobic and have a guy 80 pounds heavier than you in top control.
Well said. And i think most of us have that claustrophobic feeling at first. One of the great facets of a live martial art like BJJ is learning to be comfortable and confident in horrible situations. You ain't beat, till you're beat.One thing I learned (in my short bjj experiences) is to never underestimate the power of the elbow. It's all fun and games until one gets driven into your throat or other part of the body, as you're trying to maintain a position.
The other fundamental thing I quickly learned is patience and not to freak out when toppled by someone much larger and stronger.Take time to work your way out of a position. It's counter-intuitive to not panic as a noob, particularly when you're claustrophobic and have a guy 80 pounds heavier than you in top control.
I for one certainly would not argue there are almost always outliers. But at 200lbs, you damn sure ain't one.What if the guy is 290lbs heavier?
Nope, some of you idiots are saying that a 150lb MMA fighter could beat a 6-8 440lb man who deadlifts 1021lbs in a fight. I'm calling them out on it. Only way is nutshot or use a weapon.
Nope, some of you idiots are saying that a 150lb MMA fighter could beat a 6-8 440lb man who deadlifts 1021lbs in a fight. I'm calling them out on it. Only way is nutshot or use a weapon.
I boxed for quite a few years...
Being a big guy myself, I can say when the gas tank is empty, there is no strength. You are done. You have to use technique and pace yourself. Saving the explosive movements for the right moment. And I quickly learned the favorite tactic most will try on big guys, when you roll with them the first time, is arm drag to back take. Learning to avoid or counter that should be on every new big guys short list.
How much would you say your punching power increased when you learned how to punch?
I don't think the average cubicle Joe appreciates the difference technique and cardio make in a person.
When people punch for the first time, they punch like a baseball pitcher IF they follow through. Only a small percentage want to truly follow trough.
Going back to the baseball pitcher type of follow through, that's how most people follow through even if they don't mean to. Learning how just to plant your foot and distribute the weight is the first step (no pun intended), simple to learn, harder to execute.
When I first started, I was in shape, strong with the gym-weight lifting rage, but I couldn't move a bag as much as a guy that knew how to hit that was 40 lbs lighter than me.
BTW, the short amount of time someone can get totally drained of all strength to the point of not being hold up their gloves is extremely fast if you don't train that way. I was one of them (and I am that way again, since I don't train that way anymore). And I was "in shape".
Shoulder muscles are hard to build strength in the way a fighter needs to.
Short answer, I would say my punching power when up in folds. Maybe 3x if I were to measure how much I had to move a bag or the person behind it.
yeah bro, but we got alphas in here that lift and do squats. How much you squat, bro?
Yeah, I thought so, beta.
dude, bros here that lift don't need to train like that--they know how to punch through osmosis. lifting is all one needs, bro. bring on the betas.
Glad we agree no little guy is taking down Brian Shaw. At 200lbs as a competitive powerlifter, no 130lb woman is taking me out short of a lucky KO kick (like direct hit full force). Grappling would be hilarious because I would pick them up and run with them around the room.I for one certainly would not argue there are almost always outliers. But at 200lbs, you damn sure ain't one.
Actually no I'm not. Read the thread.No you are really the only one pounding your chest about your 440 pound mancrush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuzImQo7cdgI have to wonder what would have happened if "Muscles" just lowered his body and straight up bullrushed the smaller guy and went for a wrap.
That's what I want to see. I would think that if a big dude just stayed at a distance and tried to tap dance with a smaller, faster fighter he's going to take a bunch of fists and elbows to the head. But if they just took the game to the ground...IF they could get there...totally different match.
Anyone have some good videos of smaller guys doing takedowns of charging opponents?
This. Once my gas is gone it's difficult to do much of anything except possibly survive. I try to conserve as much energy and roll as relaxed as possible.
Usually I'm good for the first 3 rolls but by 4 and 5 it's gut check time. These are the most important ones in my opinion.
Actually no I'm not. Read the thread.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38079279&postcount=48
It's incredible the type of cardio that wrestling takes. It's not the type of cardio that someone has who can run a six minute mile or finish a marathon. That by itself will get you nowhere. It's explosive, all big muscles firing at ones, extreme pain-inducing-through-the-whole-body type of cardio. Training for this type of endurance is actually not very convenient for the typical person, since you can't just go to the gym, lift, and then run the treadmill, etc.
and where did jlee say anything about shaw? he was laughing at you on how you think the fight would go.