Would time travel be illegal?

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wty

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Go back to the time line when adam was a littel boy or eve was a littel girl,and kill any of them or both,and we will see...
 

Braznor

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Time travel is irrelevant in an universe with alternate realities.
 

jolancer

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I thought that until I saw this work on warp drive. The thing about any FTL drive is that it can be a time machine as well.
I'm no physicist so someone can point out more facts if they know... but i read your link, very cool. but if im interpreting what they said correctly, they are not traveling faster then light, or near light speed, or at all basically.. it wouldnt be moving at all but instead shifting the space around it (just like futurama again lol) so if my pewny mind is interpreting this right, they will not travel through time. (time will pass but you know what i mean, relevent to this topic )
 
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manimal

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I thought that until I saw this work on warp drive. The thing about any FTL drive is that it can be a time machine as well. So if you:

1. Accelerate away from your starting point (e.g. Earth) at relativistic, but sub-light speed,
2. Engage your warp drive going the other way, and then
3. Turn around and reverse the process to get back to your starting point,

Then you wind up going back in time. So I'm not entirely convinced it's impossible anymore. But I also think this might mean that using warp drive sends you to an alternate universe (timeline) from which you can never return. :\

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Ken g6

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Time travel is irrelevant in an universe with alternate realities.
How do you figure? Because you can't change your own past? You could go back in time, kill your other self, and replace yourself, a la Primer. (Note: I didn't make it all the way through Primer.)

I would say that time travel is irrelevant in an universe without alternate realities, because all the physics seems to say that in such a universe you can't (not shouldn't - can't) do anything that you didn't already do. (In which case, for the love of God, don't not do it! )

I'm no physicist so someone can point out more facts if they know... but I read your link, very cool. but if I'm interpreting what they said correctly, they are not traveling faster then light, or near light speed, or at all basically.. it wouldn't be moving at all but instead shifting the space around it (just like futurama again lol) so if my pewny mind is interpreting this right, they will not travel through time. (time will pass but you know what I mean, relevent to this topic )
You're missing how the acceleration (step 1) shifts your inertial reference frame. Presuming warp drive travels along your current inertial reference frame, you can travel through time relative to your destination. To make your starting point your destination, you just have to do it twice. I looked for a good Youtube video about inertial reference frames being shifted by speed, but didn't find one.

Not exactly. The alternate reality wouldn't be that different. I'm thinking that returning aboard a warp ship would seem normal to the person returning. But there would be an alternate reality where the people at home never saw them return. (Possibly two: 50% of the time they would not arrive at their destination; 75% of the time they would not return home again.)
 

Sonikku

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The problem with time travel is it's hard to have lasting effects. Say you went back and killed hitler before he was ever a bleep n the radar. Except now he never happened, your present self never heard of him and you no longer had any reason to go back and stop him in the newly created timeline. You have created a paradox.
 

HeXen

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Edit: It was Travelers!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083500/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

All I remember about it is the lead actor was fooling around with a stunt gun and held it to his head and pulled the trigger. He didn't realize the dummy charge was dangerous and it killed him.

80's show wasn't it? where he clicks the stopwatch and stops time for 30 secs or something to do something stupid? women wold be in trouble if i had that.
 

james1701

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Yep, it was Voyagers. It was a pretty good show back then. The watch was broken, and they could not control where they went. If the light was red, there was a problem with history and they had to fix it. When it was green, it was time to go to the next adventure.

Yeah, it was a shame he was screwing around with the prop gun and killed himself.
 

Juked07

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Eventually the market would stabilize and every stock price would be a constant from the moment the company goes public to the time it goes bankrupt.

You mean they would appreciate at a constant rate (risk free rate).
 

jolancer

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You're missing how the acceleration (step 1) shifts your inertial reference frame. Presuming warp drive travels along your current inertial reference frame, you can travel through time relative to your destination.
Iv seen the consept your refering to described somewere, and unless im miss understanding something like i said - i dont think it applys cause there not actually moving though space. reference frame or not i dont think it matters in this instance.
 
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