Would u guys call this a sexist T/F question?

LOUISSSSS

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T/F

"Female and male executives agree that one of the most important reasons that women are not promoted is a lack of significant experience.

False--male executives say this, female executives do not agree."

Do you think this is sexist in any way?
Class is a psychology class in sexual development
Professor is female
 

GenHoth

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
T/F

"Female and male executives agree that one of the most important reasons that women are not promoted is a lack of significant experience.

False--male executives say this, female executives do not agree."

Do you think this is sexist in any way?
Class is a psychology class in sexual development
Professor is femals

Danger!
 

thecoolnessrune

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If your psych professor is offended by something like that, she's hardly professional. I can't think of any way possible for that to be sexist. If you have sound evidence proving otherwise then go for it.

I had a psych professor who was african american, in her late 40s, wore low tops and wore knee high leather boots. Now *that* professor might have a problem with it.
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
T/F

"Female and male executives agree that one of the most important reasons that women are not promoted is a lack of significant experience.

False--male executives say this, female executives do not agree."

Do you think this is sexist in any way?
Class is a psychology class in sexual development
Professor is femals

I can't be offended when I can't even tell what the heck your post is supposed to say.

Which statement are you asking about being sexist? The original question or the answer? If the answer is simply a summary presentation of some study data somewhere, it's not sexist and the worst it could be is a poorly-designed study.

The whole scenario is definitely not sexist against males if you're in a psych class on sexual development. This is exactly the type of conversation that you're supposed to have in those classes to discuss and learn about the gender roles in various cultures.
 

everman

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You actually voluntarily pay and attend such a class under the guise of "learning?"
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
T/F

"Female and male executives agree that one of the most important reasons that women are not promoted is a lack of significant experience.

False--male executives say this, female executives do not agree."

Do you think this is sexist in any way?
Class is a psychology class in sexual development
Professor is femals
Why is your psychology class asking if something is sexist?
Answering this requires an opinion, what that is probably biased. Or maybe thats what they are trying to get at, seeing who thinks its sexist, men or women.

For me, no. But I'm a man, I dont see many things today as being sexist. I'm also white, and I didnt see the monkey cartoon as being racist.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
If your psych professor is offended by something like that, she's hardly professional. I can't think of any way possible for that to be sexist. If you have sound evidence proving otherwise then go for it.

I had a psych professor who was african american, in her late 40s, wore low tops and wore knee high leather boots. Now *that* professor might have a problem with it.

This. Never assume an answer given on a paper will offend the professor. If they're decent teachers at all, they won't be offended by anything said seriously in terms of academia. They'll just analyze it and argue a counter-point if they don't agree. Or at least, that's what they're supposed to do.
 

LOUISSSSS

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sorry for confusion,

this was a T/F question given to the class.

the question is in the " Quotes "
the answer was also given to the class
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
T/F

"Female and male executives agree that one of the most important reasons that women are not promoted is a lack of significant experience.

False--male executives say this, female executives do not agree."

Do you think this is sexist in any way?
Class is a psychology class in sexual development
Professor is femals
Why is your psychology class asking if something is sexist?
Answering this requires an opinion, what that is probably biased. Or maybe thats what they are trying to get at, seeing who thinks its sexist, men or women.

For me, no. But I'm a man, I dont see many things today as being sexist. I'm also white, and I didnt see the monkey cartoon as being racist.

I do not know if this is the best thread for this, but I would like to ask this question anyway. If the vast majority of people of color think something is racist, the vast majority of women find something sexist, or the vast majority of homosexuals consider something homophobic, can someone who is not part of these groups legitimately dispute the claims?
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
sorry for confusion,

this was a T/F question given to the class.

the question is in the " Quotes "
the answer was also given to the class

What exactly did your professor object to, and what was her reasoning? I'm sorry, but I'm still unsure as to the meaning of your post.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Aluvus
I think all true/false questions are sexist.

Yes. They cater to the male-centric, logical, symbolic left half of the brain. All such questions should be answered in essay form, so as to provide a more "socially-aware" method to share ideas and thoughts about the question, which is more hemisphere-balanced and thus does not have a male bias.
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Aluvus
I think all true/false questions are sexist.

Yes. They cater to the male-centric, logical, symbolic left half of the brain. All such questions should be answered in essay form, so as to provide a more "socially-aware" method to share ideas and thoughts about the question, which is more hemisphere-balanced and thus does not have a male bias.

I hope you're being ironic...
 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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less women in certain fields because of interest. less likely to move for work. sacrifice home life. more likely to drop out of career for children. so pool of candidates dwindles.
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
T/F

"Female and male executives agree that one of the most important reasons that women are not promoted is a lack of significant experience.

False--male executives say this, female executives do not agree."

Do you think this is sexist in any way?
Class is a psychology class in sexual development
Professor is femals
Why is your psychology class asking if something is sexist?
Answering this requires an opinion, what that is probably biased. Or maybe thats what they are trying to get at, seeing who thinks its sexist, men or women.

For me, no. But I'm a man, I dont see many things today as being sexist. I'm also white, and I didnt see the monkey cartoon as being racist.

I do not know if this is the best thread for this, but I would like to ask this question anyway. If the vast majority of people of color think something is racist, the vast majority of women find something sexist, or the vast majority of homosexuals consider something homophobic, can someone who is not part of these groups legitimately dispute the claims?
These days, not legitimately. It seems if you are a while, male, heterosexual your opinion means shit in college and media. Anything you say is automatically beaten down because of your situation. I noticed this a LOT in my psychology class, run by a stereotypical ultra-lib white female professor. She has been a practicing psychologist for 10 years and this is her first year teaching. I normally do use the term "ultra-lib" because I am a liberal myself, but she's one of those folks who gives Rush Limbaugh plenty of ammunition. She's borderline communist and I didnt used to think that communism was all that bad.
ANYWAY, its her first year teaching and I think she will soon learn to listen to our opinions instead of stating her own.

Back to politics: White-male-hetero is the only opinion taken seriously on capital hill. They listen to everyone up there, but its only the good old boys who really get heard.

Back on topic: In theory, any person who is truly object should be able to argue any point without hostility from someone of opposite gender or color. The key word here is "theory".
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
T/F

"Female and male executives agree that one of the most important reasons that women are not promoted is a lack of significant experience.

False--male executives say this, female executives do not agree."

Do you think this is sexist in any way?
Class is a psychology class in sexual development
Professor is femals
Why is your psychology class asking if something is sexist?
Answering this requires an opinion, what that is probably biased. Or maybe thats what they are trying to get at, seeing who thinks its sexist, men or women.

For me, no. But I'm a man, I dont see many things today as being sexist. I'm also white, and I didnt see the monkey cartoon as being racist.

I do not know if this is the best thread for this, but I would like to ask this question anyway. If the vast majority of people of color think something is racist, the vast majority of women find something sexist, or the vast majority of homosexuals consider something homophobic, can someone who is not part of these groups legitimately dispute the claims?
These days, not legitimately. It seems if you are a while, male, heterosexual your opinion means shit in college and media. Anything you say is automatically beaten down because of your situation. I noticed this a LOT in my psychology class, run by a stereotypical ultra-lib white female professor. She has been a practicing psychologist for 10 years and this is her first year teaching. I normally do use the term "ultra-lib" because I am a liberal myself, but she's one of those folks who gives Rush Limbaugh plenty of ammunition. She's borderline communist and I didnt used to think that communism was all that bad.
ANYWAY, its her first year teaching and I think she will soon learn to listen to our opinions instead of stating her own.

Back to politics: White-male-hetero is the only opinion taken seriously on capital hill. They listen to everyone up there, but its only the good old boys who really get heard.

Back on topic: In theory, any person who is truly object should be able to argue any point without hostility from someone of opposite gender or color. The key word here is "theory".

I guess my point is that I don't think that those with privilege (straight white males in particular) get to decide what is and is not discrimination.

Think of it as you talking to someone else. Who is the judge of whether your comments were offensive, you or her? You may have had the best intentions, (say you responded "I like you this size" to "Do these pants make me look fat?"), but she still found what you said offensive, and no matter how you feel about it, that comment was offensive to her.

This is how I think of the Monkey Cartoon. Whatever the artist and editor's motives were, overwhelmingly, black people think it's racist, it is racist. The artist may not have known that, and he may not agree, but it was still racist.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: n yusef
This is how I think of the Monkey Cartoon. Whatever the artist and editor's motives were, overwhelmingly, black people think it's racist, it is racist. The artist may not have known that, and he may not agree, but it was still racist.

I disagree 100%. Truth is not dictated by opinion. The majority of Americans think that the earth was created 10,000 years ago (or whatever). It was not. Some people think that acupuncture can cure cancer. It cannot. Racism means that a racial bias is exhibited. If, instead of a monkey, it had been a black person, (or a monkey with an Obama sticker) then it might be construed as racism. But if something must be insinuated and interpreted, and is not obvious to an ordinary onlooker, then the person doing the interpretation is responsible. Now obviously we can't know the intentions of the artist, but the given explanation passes Occam's razor. Unless we want to be the Thought Police, then we should assume that this explanation is the truth.

I'd imagine that some Peanuts cartoons are pretty offensive to hard-right Muslims, given that some strips show a dog in a stance of dominance over a girl in a skirt. However, the cartoon was never intended to be in any way related to Islam.
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: n yusef
I guess my point is that I don't think that those with privilege (straight white males in particular) get to decide what is and is not discrimination.

Think of it as you talking to someone else. Who is the judge of whether your comments were offensive, you or her? You may have had the best intentions, (say you responded "I like you this size" to "Do these pants make me look fat?"), but she still found what you said offensive, and no matter how you feel about it, that comment was offensive to her.

This is how I think of the Monkey Cartoon. Whatever the artist and editor's motives were, overwhelmingly, black people think it's racist, it is racist. The artist may not have known that, and he may not agree, but it was still racist.
This is the problem. I honestly think its because of all the BS up to this point that so many American blacks are conditioned to shout "RACISM" any time they see something they dont like. Similar to the way American females have been conditioned to shout "SEXISM".

If you visit other countries in the world you dont find as many problems with this as we have. I think it has a lot to do with all the craziness our country has been through since its inception.
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: n yusef
This is how I think of the Monkey Cartoon. Whatever the artist and editor's motives were, overwhelmingly, black people think it's racist, it is racist. The artist may not have known that, and he may not agree, but it was still racist.

I disagree 100%. Truth is not dictated by opinion. The majority of Americans think that the earth was created 10,000 years ago (or whatever). It was not. Some people think that acupuncture can cure cancer. It cannot. Racism means that a racial bias is exhibited. If, instead of a monkey, it had been a black person, (or a monkey with an Obama sticker) then it might be construed as racism. But if something must be insinuated and interpreted, and is not obvious to an ordinary onlooker, then the person doing the interpretation is responsible. Now obviously we can't know the intentions of the artist, but the given explanation passes Occam's razor. Unless we want to be the Thought Police, then we should assume that this explanation is the truth.

I'd imagine that some Peanuts cartoons are pretty offensive to hard-right Muslims, given that some strips show a dog in a stance of dominance over a girl in a skirt. However, the cartoon was never intended to be in any way related to Islam.

I cannot give a detailed reply tonight (I'm posting this from my iPhone), but I'll say that the comic was obviously racist to me and every other black person I know. You didn't get the symbol of blackness that was the chimp, but I did immediately. I know this is hard to take, but sometimes you need experiences to be able to have an opinion on something. Most white men never face prejudice or discrimation in the way that women, gays, and PoC, do. You probably don't see anything to gain by fighting for equality, so it's easy to just pretend it already exists, and that there are no problems in the world.
 

Fayd

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
T/F

"Female and male executives agree that one of the most important reasons that women are not promoted is a lack of significant experience.

False--male executives say this, female executives do not agree."

Do you think this is sexist in any way?
Class is a psychology class in sexual development
Professor is femals
Why is your psychology class asking if something is sexist?
Answering this requires an opinion, what that is probably biased. Or maybe thats what they are trying to get at, seeing who thinks its sexist, men or women.

For me, no. But I'm a man, I dont see many things today as being sexist. I'm also white, and I didnt see the monkey cartoon as being racist.

I do not know if this is the best thread for this, but I would like to ask this question anyway. If the vast majority of people of color think something is racist, the vast majority of women find something sexist, or the vast majority of homosexuals consider something homophobic, can someone who is not part of these groups legitimately dispute the claims?
These days, not legitimately. It seems if you are a while, male, heterosexual your opinion means shit in college and media. Anything you say is automatically beaten down because of your situation. I noticed this a LOT in my psychology class, run by a stereotypical ultra-lib white female professor. She has been a practicing psychologist for 10 years and this is her first year teaching. I normally do use the term "ultra-lib" because I am a liberal myself, but she's one of those folks who gives Rush Limbaugh plenty of ammunition. She's borderline communist and I didnt used to think that communism was all that bad.
ANYWAY, its her first year teaching and I think she will soon learn to listen to our opinions instead of stating her own.

Back to politics: White-male-hetero is the only opinion taken seriously on capital hill. They listen to everyone up there, but its only the good old boys who really get heard.

Back on topic: In theory, any person who is truly object should be able to argue any point without hostility from someone of opposite gender or color. The key word here is "theory".

did hell freeze over yet?
 

LOUISSSSS

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Originally posted by: n yusef

I cannot give a detailed reply tonight (I'm posting this from my iPhone), but I'll say that the comic was obviously racist to me and every other black person I know. You didn't get the symbol of blackness that was the chimp, but I did immediately.

this is WAY off topic now, but Black People Chimps?
http://erectuswalksamongst.us/Chap9.html
 
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