Would you accept full pardon for Trump in exchange for his resignation?

[brandonbull]

For the People and their elected representatives in Congress to insist that the President be held accountable for his actions is a critical part of the democratic process in the US. Just because Trump was elected does not make him an all-powerful dictator.

What has he done to be a dictator?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

He needs to reimburse the taxpayers for every dime we have spent protecting/chauffeuring him & his family since day one.

which should be no problem since he's a 'billionaire'

 

[Vic]

What has he done to be a dictator?

He declared the free press to be the enemy of the American people.
A blatant attack on the 1st amendment. No leader but a dictator would ever do such a thing. No President before him has ever done such a thing.
And you can make up all the stupid shit you want to about Obama or Clinton, and I'd probably agree with most of it, but neither Obama nor Clinton ever did anything even remotely like that. Not even close.
Let me try to put this in some perspective. Trump's attacks on the free press are literally equivalent to if Obama or Clinton had actually tried to take our guns.

 

[Mxylplyx]

He declared the free press to be the enemy of the American people.
A blatant attack on the 1st amendment. No leader but a dictator would ever do such a thing. No President before him has ever done such a thing.
And you can make up all the stupid shit you want to about Obama or Clinton, and I'd probably agree with most of it, but neither Obama nor Clinton ever did anything even remotely like that. Not even close.
Let me try to put this in some perspective. Trump's attacks on the free press are literally equivalent to if Obama or Clinton had actually tried to take our guns.

Now as someone noted earlier earlier in another thread, he didn't declare the free press an enemy, he declared the fake press the enemy, which on it's face would seem to have merit until you realize that he considers a majority of the free press to be fake press, and actual fake press to be legitimate press.

 

[Vic]

Now as someone noted earlier earlier in another thread, he didn't declare the free press an enemy, he declared the fake press the enemy, which on it's face would seem to have merit until you realize that he considers a majority of the free press to be fake press, and actual fake press to be legitimate press.

As I replied in that thread, the fake news media is, to Trump, whatever media dares to be critical of him.
I'd also like to point out that the average age of the news media outlets that he attacked by name in that tweet is roughly 100 years old. These are some of America's oldest and most respected institutions.

 

[senseamp]

No. Trump better not leave before 2020. We aren't tired of winning yet.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Fuck no. I paid for a full price ticket to this show, I want to see it to the end. /popcorn

 

[zinfamous]

Trump crimes or not, we do not want to get into the business of locking up political figures. Get Trump out of power, undo what he did, and move on.

There's a nice collection of former Illinois Governors that wish all the voters and SBI/FBI thought as you do.

 

[IronWing]

There's a nice collection of former Illinois Governors that wish all the voters and SBI/FBI thought as you do.

Welcome to Juliet! See seven Governors!

 

[zinfamous]

So their constituents are demanding they try to de-legitimize a fairly elected US President and basically undermine the democratic process of the US?

I get it. You're angry that you were conned by an idiot. No one wants to acknowledge that about themselves. It's a common human failure. You'll may get over it, at some point, and perhaps come to terms. I'm sure you'll never admit it publically, though.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Fuck no. I paid for a full price ticket to this show, I want to see it to the end. /popcorn

Not all shows have a pleasant ending. Remember we are all riding in the same boat, and Trump is driving.

 

[interchange]

I imagine (given the evidence) that he would likely be found guilty of some form of criminal offense (e.g. obstruction), but I have seen nothing that implicates him in overt acts against the US (although that is where the most serious investigations could lead). I am more concerned that he lacks capacity to serve as president and thus has met, at minimum, the "high crimes and misdemeanors" for removal from office. If there is no evidence of direct collusion with Russia in the election or other offense on the level of Treason, then I would accept resignation/pardon and suspect it is best for our country anyway.

There is another question: post-presidency (regardless of removal or completion of term), how do we ensure that we keep reigns on his knowledge of classified intelligence? Especially considering the possibility of future compelling business interests.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Not all shows have a pleasant ending. Remember we are all riding in the same boat, and Trump is driving.

I enjoy a good tragicomedy. Plus, if we don't see this through to the end then the country won't learn from its mistakes.

 

[KMFJD]

Democracy dies the instant that one party tries to imprison the political figures of the other party. It all starts out innocently, imprison a corrupt leader and think you can move on. Then the next thing you know, whomever is in power will imprison any rival and you have a pseudo-dictatorship.

Here is the list of countries that have recently imprisoned the political opposition:

• Russia,
• Venezuela,
• Taiwan,
• Chile,
• Egypt,
• North Korea,
• South Korea,
• Zimbabwe, and
• Iran.

Is this the group that you want the US to belong to?

To this day, the most dangerous thing that Trump has said is to lock up Hillary. Trump crimes or not, we do not want to get into the business of locking up political figures. Get Trump out of power, undo what he did, and move on.

Iceland,Italy,Israel,Croatia as well, if leaders aren't held accountable for breaking laws than those laws become meaningless.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

No I would not. I'd accept hanging him by the neck until dead, along with Pence, in exchange for their resignation.

 

[justoh]

I don't know. Trump seems to exemplify America, or at least murica, or however the kids spell it. You pretentious regressives so-called liberals like to think you're murica, but i've got sour news: you aren't. If Trump is insane then so are most people, really. Suggesting he's going to be institutionalized is what's insane. This thread is insane. He's not going to be impeached. He's not going to resign. He'll also win in 2020. Willing to wager an S11 edge.

 

[retrospooty]

Impeachment is basically just being booted from office. Criminal charges are pardonable.

He declared the free press to be the enemy of the American people.
A blatant attack on the 1st amendment. No leader but a dictator would ever do such a thing. No President before him has ever done such a thing.
And you can make up all the stupid shit you want to about Obama or Clinton, and I'd probably agree with most of it, but neither Obama nor Clinton ever did anything even remotely like that. Not even close.
Let me try to put this in some perspective. Trump's attacks on the free press are literally equivalent to if Obama or Clinton had actually tried to take our guns.

Yup, declaring the free press "the enemy of the American people" and calling his own fake news news and calling real news fake news he has opened the door for no-one to even believe anything anymore. Sad when he is the liar of the century.

 

[zinfamous]

I don't know. Trump seems to exemplify America, or at least murica, or however the kids spell it. You pretentious regressives so-called liberals like to think you're murica, but i've got sour news: you aren't. If Trump is insane then so are most people, really. Suggesting he's going to be institutionalized is what's insane. This thread is insane. He's not going to be impeached. He's not going to resign. He'll also win in 2020. Willing to wager an S11 edge.

This doesn't make sense. most people rejected Trump. Trump got a minority of votes. Most people are liberals. This is real demographic data.

Why do you hate math and facts?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I don't know. Trump seems to exemplify America, or at least murica, or however the kids spell it. You pretentious regressives so-called liberals like to think you're murica, but i've got sour news: you aren't. If Trump is insane then so are most people, really. Suggesting he's going to be institutionalized is what's insane. This thread is insane. He's not going to be impeached. He's not going to resign. He'll also win in 2020. Willing to wager an S11 edge.

I'll just leave this here
candidate % votes
Trump 46.4% 62,984,825
Clinton 48.5% 65,853,516

 

[justoh]

This doesn't make sense. most people rejected Trump. Trump got a minority of votes. Most people are liberals. This is real demographic data.

Why do you hate math and facts?

What you just posted doesn't make sense. So I guess we're even.

 

[justoh]

I'll just leave this here
candidate % votes
Trump 46.4% 62,984,825
Clinton 48.5% 65,853,516

What does this have to do with the price of american made steel?

 

[brycejones]

Even you should be able to admit there's some serious smoke.

The only smoke maxipad sees is from his crack pipe.

 

[zinfamous]

What you just posted doesn't make sense. So I guess we're even.

You'll have to explain yourself then. Why do you claim things that reject the actual truth, and declare them correct?

I don't get it. The majority of this country is made up of "the liberals" that you hate. Why do you not accept that? Aren't you the perpetual, persecuted, victim of self-hating liberals?

 

[IronWing]

What you just posted doesn't make sense. So I guess we're even.

True, it doesn't make sense. If people voted their self interests instead of their fears and hates, there would be a hell of a lot more liberals.

 

[justoh]

You'll have to explain yourself then. Why do you claim things that reject the actual truth, and declare them correct?

I don't get it. The majority of this country is made up of "the liberals" that you hate. Why do you not accept that? Aren't you the perpetual, persecuted, victim of self-hating liberals?

If I had any faith in your ability or at least willingness to understand anything, then I would. You've made a lot of unwarranted assumptions, as you all do, all the time.