Would you be in favour of abolishing mandatory retirement at 65?

[yllus]

We have a provincial election coming up in Ontario, Canada and one of the things our incumbent party has in their platform is abolishing mandatory retirement at age 65. Not anywhere near that age, I don't really know where I stand on the issue - other than the general feeling that if someone is willing and able to work, let them bloody work. What do you guys think?

Here's an article that talks about the topic in a bit more depth.

Tories set to unveil retirement rules

SIMCOE, Ont.?The Ontario government's April 30 Speech from the Throne will commit the ruling Conservatives to eliminating mandatory retirement, the Star has learned.

The Tory government had been looking at axing mandatory retirement altogether. "They got a lot of flak from the business community, especially the Toronto Board of Trade and Canadian Vehicle Manufacturer's Association, that complained it would cause them no end of grief because of existing contracts and pensions," the source said.

Some provinces, including Quebec, Manitoba, Alberta and Prince Edward Island have already axed mandatory retirement. Others, including Ontario, along with the federal government, retain 65 as the retirement age. The Supreme Court of Canada has routinely upheld Ontario's mandatory retirement provisions.

Organized labour is against dropping mandatory retirement, while seniors' groups such as the Canadian Association of Retired Persons, with 250,000 members in Ontario, see it as a victory.

 

[Krye]

I think that you should have the right to retire at any age you want.

 

[ragazzo]

Originally posted by: yllusif someone is willing and able to work, let them bloody work. What do you guys think?

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[pennylane]

Originally posted by: Krye
I think that you should have the right to retire at any age you want.

 

[ReiAyanami]

but old skool grandpa be stealin' jobs from 6-year olds in 3rd world countries at the nike factory. think of the kids!!!

 

[Viper GTS]

Mandatory retirement? WTF is up with you damn Canadians?

What do they do when you turn 70, cremate you?

Viper GTS

 

[hdeck]

you crazy canucks always thinking up these silly laws

 

[Martin]

I don't see a problem with it, although seeing as how I'm 19, I don't really care about it.

 

[Spac3d]

Canada is a strange, backwards place.

 

[LuNoTiCK]

They should let people work until they are ready to quit. Although theres a good chance they will be fired for being old.

 

[eakers]

this is where i am torn dear sully. you know my love for the PC party but i am against some of thier labour changes. i think that after 65 you should be able to enjoy your life and let younger people progress and move up in the work world. while i think that you should still have the option to work after 65 i think that more should be done to encourage those to retire or work only part-time. i don't think its really fair to expect people who are 65, 70 years old to have jobs and to work up to 60 hours a week. not keeping the standard for people to retire at 65 sets a standard where companies will expect people to work until they are on their death bed, what kind of life is that?

while i do talk about the goodness of capitalism i am really against the 60 hour work week. i feel that personal time and family are much more important than work and that businesses should be forced to pay overtime after 40 hours. (most do i know)


...and so wages the war between bleeding heart liberal kat and hardcore conservative kat, i am really all over the place.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Mandatory retirement? WTF is up with you damn Canadians?

What do they do when you turn 70, cremate you?

Viper GTS

I was just about to ask the same thing...

The U.S. needs mandatory labor. Put all the welfare recipients and homeless bums to work to help pay for social security and prescription drugs.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: eakers
this is where i am torn dear sully. you know my love for the PC party but i am against some of thier labour changes. i think that after 65 you should be able to enjoy your life and let younger people progress and move up in the work world. while i think that you should still have the option to work after 65 i think that more should be done to encourage those to retire or work only part-time. i don't think its really fair to expect people who are 65, 70 years old to have jobs and to work up to 60 hours a week. not keeping the standard for people to retire at 65 sets a standard where companies will expect people to work until they are on their death bed, what kind of life is that?

while i do talk about the goodness of capitalism i am really against the 60 hour work week. i feel that personal time and family are much more important than work and that businesses should be forced to pay overtime after 40 hours. (most do i know)

There is a mandatory 60 hour work week in Canada too? :Q

...and so wages the war between bleeding heart liberal kat and hardcore conservative kat, i am really all over the place.

That's a good thing.

 

[Booster]

My grandfather worked until the age of 70 and died shortly after he retired. I say let them work... Heck, it's very hard for an older person to find a job nowadays...

while i do talk about the goodness of capitalism i am really against the 60 hour work week. i feel that personal time and family are much more important than work and that businesses should be forced to pay overtime after 40 hours. (most do i know)

Not for everyone family is more important. Plenty of people don't have/don't give a heck about their family and spend all their time at work.

 

[GL]

There's no law explicitly setting a mandatory retirement age. The whole issue is that the Ontario Human Rights code (at least the employment rights section) only applies to individuals 18-65, which means companies can write into their collective agreements, age-discriminatory clauses after 65 - which they do. Specifically, many companies and unions negotiate a mandatory retirement age. Companies enjoy clearing up some of the payroll, and unions enjoy an open position for a young person to fill. If you wish to work after 65 and can find such work, there's nothing stopping you. But if somebody refuses to hire you because you're 75, just don't expect the government to help you resolve the situation. I believe the whole mandatory retirement phenomenon was implemented so that the baby boomers had jobs available to them - in much the same vein that special measures are being taken to accomodate the double cohort in universities. I'm not surprised the baby boomers are the same group pushing for the abolition of the same law that benefitted them. I mean, that pretty much sums up their whole generation doesn't it;-)

 

[RossMAN]

I'd like to retire at 40.

 

[Medellon]

A fellow teacher is 75 though he should not be teaching. He is really physically unable to do a good job and I think he should retire. I don't think there should be a mandatory retirement age though.

 

[Booster]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
I'd like to retire at 40.

But what would you do then? You'd get bored pretty easily even if you'll hav enough money (not a lot of money, that's a different thing).

 

[eakers]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: eakers
this is where i am torn dear sully. you know my love for the PC party but i am against some of thier labour changes. i think that after 65 you should be able to enjoy your life and let younger people progress and move up in the work world. while i think that you should still have the option to work after 65 i think that more should be done to encourage those to retire or work only part-time. i don't think its really fair to expect people who are 65, 70 years old to have jobs and to work up to 60 hours a week. not keeping the standard for people to retire at 65 sets a standard where companies will expect people to work until they are on their death bed, what kind of life is that?

while i do talk about the goodness of capitalism i am really against the 60 hour work week. i feel that personal time and family are much more important than work and that businesses should be forced to pay overtime after 40 hours. (most do i know)

There is a mandatory 60 hour work week in Canada too? :Q

no, in ontario the tories just changed the law saying that employers dont have to pay overtime until after 60 hours per week. most work weeks are still 40 hours. there are other rules and this is typically not done but they technically are allowed to.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: Krye
I think that you should have the right to retire at any age you want.

 

[slycat]

yes!...it should be 55!