Would you buy a 335i?

[theblackbox]

boy, you're a winner, huh? what are you 12?

 

[PhoKingGuy]

boy, you're a winner, huh? what are you 12?

 

[theblackbox]

ha ha....wait... ha ha.

really?

 

[PhoKingGuy]

ha ha....wait... ha ha.

really?

 

[Atty]

No, I would buy an M3 instead. B)

 

[Koing]

No 335i for me. I'd save some £££ and get an E46 M3.

This is impossible to quantify but let it simply be said I disagree; I think the badge is a major influence. They want to say "I own a BMW". I knew a guy once with a 70's Corvette he had fixed up. I asked him how fast he had it up to. He said "About 90mph". Fvcking sad. I have done quicker in a minivan.

The issue is of speed limits...I'd love to smash my car about more but it's just not safe...so thats where I do a few track days and airfield days

I'll hopefully take the car out to The Ring sometime this year for a few laps

The 3 series is just the junior executive.
The 5 series is for the bigger executive

The M3 is not faster then the M5. The M5 is 507BHP, sure it's heavier but it is a beast of a car. Maybe the M3 is faster on smaller tracks but the M5 isn't realy for the track being 1850kg and all...more of a cruiser that eats motorways miles. It can do a few tracks but it's hefty weight doesn't help it out.

The E46 M3 is also cheaper then a 335i...but at 2001 design so nearly 10yrs old.

Koing

Koing

 

[Koing]

No 335i for me. I'd save some £££ and get an E46 M3.

This is impossible to quantify but let it simply be said I disagree; I think the badge is a major influence. They want to say "I own a BMW". I knew a guy once with a 70's Corvette he had fixed up. I asked him how fast he had it up to. He said "About 90mph". Fvcking sad. I have done quicker in a minivan.

The issue is of speed limits...I'd love to smash my car about more but it's just not safe...so thats where I do a few track days and airfield days

I'll hopefully take the car out to The Ring sometime this year for a few laps

The 3 series is just the junior executive.
The 5 series is for the bigger executive

The M3 is not faster then the M5. The M5 is 507BHP, sure it's heavier but it is a beast of a car. Maybe the M3 is faster on smaller tracks but the M5 isn't realy for the track being 1850kg and all...more of a cruiser that eats motorways miles. It can do a few tracks but it's hefty weight doesn't help it out.

The E46 M3 is also cheaper then a 335i...but at 2001 design so nearly 10yrs old.

Koing

Koing

 

[Pantoot]

The M3 is not faster then the M5.

Having met a couple I would said the M3 is quicker than an M5, at least in terms of 0-60.

The bigger car just seems to take longer to get rolling. Of course, I admit it might come down to skill, I didn't use launch control and I am not a pro drag car driver. Stretch it out to a 1/4 mile and the fight becomes more fair.

 

[SSSnail]

Smaller track? Like how small, Ring small? Look up Ring time, the M3 is faster.

 

[Turin39789]

No.


Also, save your craziness for the track.

 

[SSSnail]

No.

No what?

7:50 BMW M3 CSL Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2003)
8:05 BMW M3 E92 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2007)
8:13 BMW M5 E60 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2004)
8:22 BMW M3 E46 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2000)

 

[Pantoot]

No what?

7:50 BMW M3 CSL Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2003)
8:05 BMW M3 E92 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2007)
8:13 BMW M5 E60 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2004)
8:22 BMW M3 E46 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (12/2000)

See, the M5 is indeed faster than an M3, just not the current generation...
Anyway, I wonder if a later year E60 would do better though, I didn't even know they had production E60 M5's in 2004.

 

[SSSnail]

See, the M5 is indeed faster than an M3, just not the current generation...
Anyway, I wonder if a later generation E60 would do better though, I didn't even know they had production M5's in 2004.

#@%@#$ YOU, you... #@#$!! :awe: Almost had me there...

Seriously? E39 M5? (That's the one that in the same generation as the e46) It was so slow, they didn't bother running it.

Edit: Oh, you meant E60 M5. Yeah, BMW went face-lift to the e46 in 2004 with the couple, introduced the new lineup that you see today. The coupe caught on a few years later. They don't change all their product lineup at once.

 

[DivideBYZero]

#@%@#$ YOU, you... #@#$!! :awe: Almost had me there...

Seriously? E39 M5? (That's the one that in the same generation as the e46) It was so slow, they didn't bother running it.

Edit: Oh, you meant E60 M5. Yeah, BMW went face-lift to the e46 in 2004 with the couple, introduced the new lineup that you see today. The coupe caught on a few years later. They don't change all their product lineup at once.

Except the e46 M3 wasn't updated past the LED rear lights. It was too expensive as it has ~80% unique body panels comapared to the standard E46 Coupe.

 

[Pantoot]

Edit: Oh, you meant E60 M5. Yeah, BMW went face-lift to the e46 in 2004 with the couple, introduced the new lineup that you see today. The coupe caught on a few years later. They don't change all their product lineup at once.

Yeah, I meant to say I didn't know the E60 M5 was even out in 2004. The earliest ones I have seen in the states are 2006, and I thought they started in 2005 in europe.

Just wondering if any times were done on the 2008+ ones, I know there were changes to the SMG snuck in over the years.

 

[SSSnail]

Except the e46 M3 wasn't updated past the LED rear lights. It was too expensive as it has ~80% unique body panels comapared to the standard E46 Coupe.

The coupe didn't get much in "facelift" either, save for the LED lights and a new bumper, marker lights placement, transmissions (from zf to gm). It's understood that the M has different panels, wider fenders make up for most of that.

Oh yeah, and shark fin.

 

[Howard]

something

tl;dr

bmws still suck

YOU MAD?

You're both idiots, get the fuck out of here.

 

[SSSnail]

God damn it, I've been trolled, hard.

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Under bridge --->

Take your pick. Don't make me whack you with your man-purse.

 

[Howard]

<3

 

[Imdmn04]

I have a 335, and no problems with the HSFP yet, knock on wood.

With BMWs, you always roll a dice if you buy after the warranty expires. They may charge you just to reset a moon roof warning light.

 

[Koing]

Having met a couple I would said the M3 is quicker than an M5, at least in terms of 0-60.

The bigger car just seems to take longer to get rolling. Of course, I admit it might come down to skill, I didn't use launch control and I am not a pro drag car driver. Stretch it out to a 1/4 mile and the fight becomes more fair.

I'd say it was down to the driver:

E90/E92 M3 performance

* 0-60 mph (97 km/h): 4.4-4.2 seconds for the 2009 E90/E92 M3,[27] 5.1 sec for the convertible
* 1/4 mile: 12.7 seconds @ 183 km/h (113.7 mph) [27], Convertible: 13.1 @ 109 mph (175.4 km/h)
* Top Speed: Electronically limited to 249 km/h (155 mph), delimited ~290 km/h (180 mph)+
* Skid Pad: 0.98 g
* Slalom: 114.9 km/h (71.4 mph)


Performance

The E60 M5 took the title of the most powerful midsize sport sedan when released in 2005 with the 5l naturally aspirated V10 BMW S85 engine

* 0-100 km/h (62 mph): 4.2s [2]
o (0-100 mph: 10.1s, Road & Track [2/06])
o (0-60 mph: 3.8s, Road & Track [2/06])
* Top speed: 250 km/h (155 mph) actual (or 163 mph (262 km/h) indicated) with electronic speed limiter; 209 mph (336 km/h) actual with limiter removed [3]
* Power: 373 kW (507 PS; 500 bhp) at 7750 rpm [3]
* Torque: 520 N·m (384 ft·lbf) at 6100 rpm


At worst the M5 is about the same whent he E90 is at best. The M5 is faster with a better driver but from a rolling start I'd imagine the M5 to be quite a chunk faster since it's 100BHp more and the weight is about 150-200kg tops.

The M5 would be a cool car to drive on the motorways I feel that it's just too big for me, but I'd like a 500BHp car coupe that was E46 sized or a tiny but smaller

Koing

 

[rh71]

With BMWs, you always roll a dice if you buy after the warranty expires. They may charge you just to reset a moon roof warning light.

If it's anything like mine, just hold the moonroof switch forward for 10 seconds and it will go through a long cycle to reset it on its own. I've had moonroof problems beyond a reset twice now and the car is only 2 years old. I am debating on the extended warranty but the damn thing is $2k for 2 years.

 

[Pantoot]

I'd say it was down to the driver:

Readily admitted, but for my ego's sake, lets say the M3's were modded. (only ran against 2)

o (0-60 mph: 3.8s, Road & Track [2/06])

I don't believe Road & Track on that one.