Would you give Obama a third term?

Sonikku

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Jun 23, 2005
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He's only allowed 2. But if he could run for a third, would you vote for him over a Hillary and Trump (or Cruz) race?
 

Zaap

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YES.

without a fucking doubt.

Same.

Compared to this election year circus choice of clowns? There can't be that many people that wouldn't rather say lets put this stupidity off another 4 years, everyone regroup, and come back again in 4 years with some REAL candidates.

I dare say virtually everyone but the nut fringe on both sides and the entire world would breathe a collective sigh of relief.

Not so much a rewarding of Obama for anything, just a 'better than the alternatives 'thing.
 

BoberFett

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Oct 9, 1999
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No, we have term limits for a reason. If we're talking about a world where we can change the rules anyway, I'll choose one where we've a added None Of The Above to the ballot, and if that option wins then all candidates are thrown out, not allowed to run again, and new candidates are chosen.


Edit: If the only choice is Hillary, Trump, or Obama, in this little fantasy, yes I'd stick with Obama. I'd rather have Sanders than Obama, but we most likely won't have that option.
 
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Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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I think term limits for the Presidency should be abolished, or extended to allow more terms. 3 or 4 terms.
Force the incumbent party to openly debate their own policies from their commander in chief. Give the people an option to stay the course if they so desire.

As for Obama, he'd be the best option between those two.
 

Oyeve

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Oct 18, 1999
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What if through the contested nomination Cruz was on the ticket?

I would still vote for obama. All the GOP candidates are mentally retarded loons and Hillary is just a wise and beautiful woman and we all know bernie won't win because white red neck amerikkk a will never vote for a jew.
 
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nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Rather have Trump than Cruz.

Obama->Clinton seems a lateral move at best. Maybe I'd opt for the devil I know.
 
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Assuming it was an option and avoiding all discussion about term limits. Probably not just because I know he'd be ready to sign the TPP.
 

Phokus

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Nov 20, 1999
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I dunno, he's an ok president, the only thing he's ever made me mad about really is his war on whistleblowers, but other than that, comparatively speaking he's been decent.
 
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I gotta say, Rafael's religious views scare the shit out of me. He seems to be one of those rapture idiots.
 
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I gotta say, Rafael's religious views scare the shit out of me. He seems to be one of those rapture idiots.

He is or at least claims to be to evangelicals. He had stated that a war in Jerusalem to fight evil (ISIS) is what god intends or something very similar to this.

Funny thing is when you read his stance on the ME he is very non international out of all the candidates his stated opinion on the ME matches mine very well.

**I would never vote Cruz**
 

BonzaiDuck

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Jun 30, 2004
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I dunno, he's an ok president, the only thing he's ever made me mad about really is his war on whistleblowers, but other than that, comparatively speaking he's been decent.

Seems curious to me that you chose that criticism. I was mildly inclined myself to dismiss it in a wider historical context. But it's just as valid as any number of choices.

I've been posting around here long enough that anyone could guess my answer to the thread's question.

I even remember watching variously Truman, MacArthur or even McCarthy on the family's first TV set, so I've seen maybe 11 presidencies at different times and with differing levels of discernment during my life.

Whatever Kennedy was doing poolside, he gets a "walk" for his sacrifice and in a comparison to Clinton, whose little unperjured testimony over Monica's knob-polishing was as much over-amplified by the opposition and Jerry Falwell as it was embarrassing for the country regardless.

For the GOP's administrations, Ike gets a thumbs-up. Reagan is mythologized, but he wasn't the worst even for the Alzheimers. Carter had misfortunes not of his doing, but the scandal with Bert Lance at OMB was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. Anything good that Nixon did was overshadowed by Watergate, COINTELPRO and the tapes. Clinton was unable to give us his best for at least one matter of his own undoing. You know the rest.

The O-man gets a stand-up applause from me, but like I said -- I've been posting here for a while . . . so . . .
 
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Indus

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May 11, 2002
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The fact that we're even talking about this shows how retarded the opposition is:

A guy who takes his job seriously vs A guy who thinks it's a reality show.
 

Thump553

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Jun 2, 2000
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I think the two term limit set in the Constitution is important (we got damn lucky with FDR) and solely for that reason I'd reluctantly say no. But going into this election cycle it was apparent to me from the beginning that (a) Hillary was the ONLY adult candidate running and (b) no matter who wins it will be a substantial step down from Obama-especially if Congress remains run by the pig headed obstructionists currently running both houses of the Congress. I fear those clowns are going to succeed at tearing down the USA.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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I dunno, he's an ok president, the only thing he's ever made me mad about really is his war on whistleblowers, but other than that, comparatively speaking he's been decent.

this and when the police interfered with the press i don't think he took a hard enough stand against it.

I did hope (but didn't expect) him to reign in the war's and NSA. but overall not a bad president. I mean he didn't get impeached so that's good.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Jun 30, 2004
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The fact that we're even talking about this shows how retarded the opposition is:

A guy who takes his job seriously vs A guy who thinks it's a reality show.

I'm not sure my own is a serious theory, but I've given it a thought here and there for the last few days.

Some component within the GOP thinks that O has somehow "soiled" the presidency, so in their outrage about everything, they are playing "One-Up" by choosing a mean-faced clown with Orangutan hair, bad language and a loud voice.

You know from "Network" the old '76 film release: "Ah'm madder'n hell, an' Ah'm not gonna take it anymore . . . "
 
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