Would you help a brother out?

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Lifer
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Seems like Obama's message of keeping lobbyists at bay is coming under pressure. Would you help him out in order for him to keep them from influencing him with their money?

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(CNN) -- I want you to hear something President-elect Barack Obama said just about a year ago:

"I am running to tell the lobbyists in Washington that their days of setting the agenda are over. They have not funded my campaign. They won't work in my White House."

Just this weekend The New York times published a list of names -- a rather long list of names of people -- who are working on Obama's transition team or who have accepted jobs in his White House who are either former lobbyists or who have close ties to lobbyists.

The Times reports that some of those people were lobbying as recently as this year.

Now, the Obama team is quick to point out that their rules and restrictions on lobbying ties are far stricter than any previous administration.

And the Obama folks concede that eliminating anyone in Washington who had ever lobbied Congress or who has a family member who lobbied Congress would be foolish.

And it's true, you could argue the reality of Washington and our government is that lobbyists are often the most informed people on a given issue.

But we certainly never heard Obama articulate it quite that way when he was candidate Obama. What he said then was:

"That's what happens when lobbyists set the agenda and that's why they won't drown out your voices anymore when I am president of the United States of America."

And that is a promise that he may already be struggling to keep.

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(CNN) ? After raising a staggering amount of money for the general election, President-elect Barack Obama must now rake in more cash for his transition and inauguration.

There is about $9.74 million of taxpayer funds available to pay for the transition, but experts say that's not enough.

To make up the difference, past presidents have turned to private money and corporate cash.

Obama's transition team, however, is taking pains to keep lobbyists out of his transition and forgo corporate cash.

John Podesta, the co-chair of Obama's transition team, has vowed to make this "the most open and transparent transition in history," but Obama has not explicitly outlined his intentions for the inauguration.

The transition team said an announcement will be made next week on how the event will be funded.

The Obama team will have to balance how to raise enough money without contradicting Obama's tough talk during the campaign against lobbyists.


"I really do hope Obama sticks by his principles and does not accept corporate money, does not accept money from lobbyists, and places a very, very low ceiling on the amount of money he'd accept from individuals to pay for his inauguration," said Craig Holman, a legislative representative for Public Citizen.

Public Citizen is a national nonprofit organization that says it advocates for consumer interests in Congress and openness and democratic accountability in government.

The group says companies sometimes contribute cash to the inauguration in order to buy influence.

President Bush raised a record $42.8 million for his second inauguration, and according to Public Citizen, more than 90 percent of donations to that ceremony were from executives or corporations.

Bush limited corporate donations to $250,000 each in order to avoid any potential conflicts of interest.

Obama could decide to accept corporate donations for the inauguration, but may impose tighter limits.

"I think past presidents have had to raise lots of private money to do these things. And I think he's actually got a good resource base of donors that are willing and probably will give money for both the transition effort, but also the inaugural campaign as well," said David Lewis, a professor of political science at Vanderbilt University and author of "The Politics of Presidential Appointments."

Even without corporate cash, the Obama fundraising machine has been a force. Nearly half of the record $639 million that his campaign raised during the primaries and general election came in the form of donations of $200 or less.

As of mid-October, the Obama campaign had spent about $594 million, but any money left over from the general election cannot go toward the transition.

The president-elect could return that money to contributors, donate it to charity, form a political action committee or contribute to other candidates, PACs or party committees, as long as he stayed within the federal contribution limits.

Obama could also hold on to the money and use it for a future federal campaign, like a re-election bid.

The public will get a better idea of exactly how much cash is on hand when the next reports are filed with the Federal Election Commission on December 4.
 

alchemize

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No, I would not help him out (or any other president looking for donations for a party). Take whatever donations you get, that's your inauguration party budget. You can go a long way with a few kegs and some nitrous tanks!
 

m1ldslide1

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Personally I have trouble finding sympathy for this particular cause...

I read the article on CNN earlier too --- I'm not seeing any quotes attributed to Obama? Just a whole bunch of people speculating about how he's going to need all this cash for a big party, right? Seems a little thin to be all doom and gloom about IMO.
 

mxyzptlk

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Originally posted by: nonameo
Originally posted by: Pastore
What the hell is the "inauguration"?

This is the ceremony that actually makes him president. AKA "swearing" him in.

I want to believe that Pastore was joking or pointing out some kind of spelling mistake or something. Maybe he's not from the US, and english is his second or third language..

That can't have been an honest question. It just can't.
 

theflyingpig

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Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
Originally posted by: nonameo
Originally posted by: Pastore
What the hell is the "inauguration"?

This is the ceremony that actually makes him president. AKA "swearing" him in.

I want to believe that Pastore was joking or pointing out some kind of spelling mistake or something. Maybe he's not from the US, and english is his second or third language..

That can't have been an honest question. It just can't.

It probably is. Stupid people are everywhere.
 

venkman

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Why the hell do you need $42.8 million or even $10 million for an inauguration?
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: venkman
Why the hell do you need $42.8 million or even $10 million for an inauguration?

Caviar & Limos do not come cheap.

 

cubeless

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he should just get sworn in in the mall, don't charge for tickets, and make it free except for all the security...

what a great showing it would be... we're at war, in financial straits, and our new president gets the business done and gets to work... boy would that be a change... if everyting's better in 4 years and he gets reelected, throw a bit of a party then...

anybody want to place a little wager on how it will actually go?
 
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