would you move to a segregated community?

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GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Platypus
loki, from one gay guy to another, don't move into a gay neighborhood

why not?

psst, platypus isn't your average gay guy either

to answer the poll, yes, i would.... but IMO the question is entirely too broad for your purposes.
 

Platypus

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Platypus
loki, from one gay guy to another, don't move into a gay neighborhood

why not?

I guess it depends on what you're after. A collection of catty, bitchy scene-queens who will walk up to your face and tell you what you have on is ugly at a bar or just give you disgusted looks for what you're wearing is the norm here. Being oggled and sized up by every person you see, getting grabbed by people or ridiculous advances put on you by people completely without shame, being looked down on by people because you're not 110lbs wearing women's jeans, a V neck cut down past your chest and women's designer sunglasses at 11pm and lisping your way through tearing down another person at a scene restaurant , etc. Try taking a piss in a gay bar here, you'll have someone making notes of your 'stats' in their little black books.

I'm not a typical gay guy so I guess I'm just not gay enough for the scene here (I've been told I hate my own kind once too often by people who just don't get it), fine by me. The only gay bar I really visit anymore aside from the sheer novelty/kitsch trip is so low key you'd never know it's a gay bar.. just 'real' people

It's not all bad, it's nice to live in a community where I can walk down the street with my arm around my boyfriend or hugging someone without someone calling me a i love you is worthwhile. There are a lot of nice gay guys here too.. it's just that the bad outweighs the good here. The overwhelming stereotype of what a gay male is like seems to be relished here rather than looked down upon. If you wear your sexuality on your sleeve it's perfect for you, if you're just a normal guy I'd advise against it.
 

compuwiz1

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Well, there is certain white trash I wouldn't mind being segregated from. :laugh:

<---white d00d.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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not at all, i've grown up in very diverse areas all my life and wouldnt change it at all. you experience a lot more than you would in a sheltered area.

i would however not want to live next to very poor people either, or very rich people. i dont think i'd call that segregation though.
 

vi edit

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From a social-economic demographic, sure. The property I recently bought has very strict covenants that mandate a particular standard in the homes being built and basic maintenance that must be performed in the yard. Its stuff I do anyway, and the houses around us are all very nicely built, and well kept. It's just a very safe neighborhood that will protect property values and keeps everything neat and tidy. The costs of the homes and the location naturally prohibits particular demographics from moving in and making a mess of the place.

I would not actively seek out or really even consider a neighborhood that segregated out by race, culture, or lifestyles though.

I don't care what you wear, what you do in the confines in your home, or what you look like, I just don't want to be living next to your pigsty of a property.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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I don't really talk to my neighbors anyway, so if they were all white, jewish or whatever else you could think of... it probably wouldn't bother me.
 

lokiju

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Sure I'd have no problem with it if my life revolved around something like say flying and living in a community that has a runway or horses and lived in a community that had stables and trails.

Or fishing and lived in a community with stocked lakes.

Etc. etc. etc...

Whats wrong with that?

It's not like you're bound by the community and not aloud to leave and do something else when you want.
 

Kyle

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Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: LtPage1
I challenge anyone on here (who doesn't live on a college campus, military base, or other artificially composed community) to claim that they don't live in a de facto segregated community.

What?
I live in a condo complex w/ people of many differet races and I assume a wide range of incomes. There's apartment complexs all around that, again, are widley diverse....pretty common in Seattle...
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
You guys that voted no probably didn't think through, I got two words for you - Nudist Colony.

nudists tend to be some of the ugliest mofos on the planet. no thanks
 

thatguy82

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Originally posted by: Platypus
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Platypus
loki, from one gay guy to another, don't move into a gay neighborhood

why not?

I guess it depends on what you're after. A collection of catty, bitchy scene-queens who will walk up to your face and tell you what you have on is ugly at a bar or just give you disgusted looks for what you're wearing is the norm here. Being oggled and sized up by every person you see, getting grabbed by people or ridiculous advances put on you by people completely without shame, being looked down on by people because you're not 110lbs wearing women's jeans, a V neck cut down past your chest and women's designer sunglasses at 11pm and lisping your way through tearing down another person at a scene restaurant , etc. Try taking a piss in a gay bar here, you'll have someone making notes of your 'stats' in their little black books.

I'm not a typical gay guy so I guess I'm just not gay enough for the scene here (I've been told I hate my own kind once too often by people who just don't get it), fine by me. The only gay bar I really visit anymore aside from the sheer novelty/kitsch trip is so low key you'd never know it's a gay bar.. just 'real' people

It's not all bad, it's nice to live in a community where I can walk down the street with my arm around my boyfriend or hugging someone without someone calling me a i love you is worthwhile. There are a lot of nice gay guys here too.. it's just that the bad outweighs the good here. The overwhelming stereotype of what a gay male is like seems to be relished here rather than looked down upon. If you wear your sexuality on your sleeve it's perfect for you, if you're just a normal guy I'd advise against it.

I don't think the other chicago neighborhoods are much better lol, just different styles. I still love this city though.
 

Platypus

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Originally posted by: thatguy82
Originally posted by: Platypus
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Platypus
loki, from one gay guy to another, don't move into a gay neighborhood

why not?

I guess it depends on what you're after. A collection of catty, bitchy scene-queens who will walk up to your face and tell you what you have on is ugly at a bar or just give you disgusted looks for what you're wearing is the norm here. Being oggled and sized up by every person you see, getting grabbed by people or ridiculous advances put on you by people completely without shame, being looked down on by people because you're not 110lbs wearing women's jeans, a V neck cut down past your chest and women's designer sunglasses at 11pm and lisping your way through tearing down another person at a scene restaurant , etc. Try taking a piss in a gay bar here, you'll have someone making notes of your 'stats' in their little black books.

I'm not a typical gay guy so I guess I'm just not gay enough for the scene here (I've been told I hate my own kind once too often by people who just don't get it), fine by me. The only gay bar I really visit anymore aside from the sheer novelty/kitsch trip is so low key you'd never know it's a gay bar.. just 'real' people

It's not all bad, it's nice to live in a community where I can walk down the street with my arm around my boyfriend or hugging someone without someone calling me a i love you is worthwhile. There are a lot of nice gay guys here too.. it's just that the bad outweighs the good here. The overwhelming stereotype of what a gay male is like seems to be relished here rather than looked down upon. If you wear your sexuality on your sleeve it's perfect for you, if you're just a normal guy I'd advise against it.

I don't think the other chicago neighborhoods are much better lol, just different styles. I still love this city though.

I think so, you don't get any of that attitude up in Andersonville or Edgewater for example, which are also heavily gay areas. I love Chicago and wouldn't change it but I just don't care for my hood that much. Each neighborhood has its own sort of culture.
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: tasmanian
I like segregation by income. No need for other segregation since that pretty much covers them all.

Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: LtPage1
I challenge anyone on here (who doesn't live on a college campus, military base, or other artificially composed community) to claim that they don't live in a de facto segregated community.

That's not the god damn question though, now is it? The question was if you would WILLINGLY move into a segregated community.

Most people, when given the choice of where to live, will choose the nicest place that they can afford. So, I think that we generally do choose to live in a segregated community (i.e. of people of similar socio-economic class).

Not many people purposely choose to live in an area well below their socio-economic class.

(Of course, most of the people who respond to this post negatively will be the exception to the rule even though they think they are in the majority.)

MotionMan

It depends how they choose to spend the rest of their money though. Two people making the same net income could live in vastly different areas based on price/socioeconomic status if one of them is single and the other one has a wife and 3 kids to support.
 

Gooberlx2

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Sure. At the same time, I have no problems living in a diverse community either. The question is basically city vs. burbs. Each has its pros and cons.
 

oogabooga

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I'd gladly live wherever we segregate the beautiful yet down to earth woman. We do have a camp of them hidden somewhere right?
 

thatguy82

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I think so, you don't get any of that attitude up in Andersonville or Edgewater for example, which are also heavily gay areas. I love Chicago and wouldn't change it but I just don't care for my hood that much. Each neighborhood has its own sort of culture.

you're probably right, I went to some street festivals in andersonville last summer and didn't see any of that. You still get attitude in most parts of the city just a different degree. I live in river north, everyone here seems indifferent since it's mostly tourists esp on weekends.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: thatguy82
I think so, you don't get any of that attitude up in Andersonville or Edgewater for example, which are also heavily gay areas. I love Chicago and wouldn't change it but I just don't care for my hood that much. Each neighborhood has its own sort of culture.

you're probably right, I went to some street festivals in andersonville last summer and didn't see any of that. You still get attitude in most parts of the city just a different degree. I live in river north, everyone here seems indifferent since it's mostly tourists esp on weekends.

Eh, it just depends what you want in a neighborhood.

Lakeview is basically Lincoln Park with 90% less Trixies/Bros or snobby rich bitches. Even within the neighborhood it's is a little more complex Halsted is flamingly queer while, Broadway is fairly subdued, Clark/Belmont is a bizarre mixed bag, and Wrigleyville is...er...Wrigleyville.

That's one of the things I like about Chicago, even withing a well defined neighborhood there can be great variety.
 

Platypus

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: thatguy82
I think so, you don't get any of that attitude up in Andersonville or Edgewater for example, which are also heavily gay areas. I love Chicago and wouldn't change it but I just don't care for my hood that much. Each neighborhood has its own sort of culture.

you're probably right, I went to some street festivals in andersonville last summer and didn't see any of that. You still get attitude in most parts of the city just a different degree. I live in river north, everyone here seems indifferent since it's mostly tourists esp on weekends.

Eh, it just depends what you want in a neighborhood.

Lakeview is basically Lincoln Park with 90% less Trixies/Bros or snobby rich bitches. Even within the neighborhood it's is a little more complex Halsted is flamingly queer while, Broadway is fairly subdued, Clark/Belmont is a bizarre mixed bag, and Wrigleyville is...er...Wrigleyville.

That's one of the things I like about Chicago, even withing a well defined neighborhood there can be great variety.

Unless the brahs somehow get lost and make it down to Jaqs... lol
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Platypus
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: thatguy82
I think so, you don't get any of that attitude up in Andersonville or Edgewater for example, which are also heavily gay areas. I love Chicago and wouldn't change it but I just don't care for my hood that much. Each neighborhood has its own sort of culture.

you're probably right, I went to some street festivals in andersonville last summer and didn't see any of that. You still get attitude in most parts of the city just a different degree. I live in river north, everyone here seems indifferent since it's mostly tourists esp on weekends.

Eh, it just depends what you want in a neighborhood.

Lakeview is basically Lincoln Park with 90% less Trixies/Bros or snobby rich bitches. Even within the neighborhood it's is a little more complex Halsted is flamingly queer while, Broadway is fairly subdued, Clark/Belmont is a bizarre mixed bag, and Wrigleyville is...er...Wrigleyville.

That's one of the things I like about Chicago, even withing a well defined neighborhood there can be great variety.

Unless the brahs somehow get lost and make it down to Jaqs... lol

Some leakage does occur from time to time.
 

thatguy82

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: thatguy82
I think so, you don't get any of that attitude up in Andersonville or Edgewater for example, which are also heavily gay areas. I love Chicago and wouldn't change it but I just don't care for my hood that much. Each neighborhood has its own sort of culture.

you're probably right, I went to some street festivals in andersonville last summer and didn't see any of that. You still get attitude in most parts of the city just a different degree. I live in river north, everyone here seems indifferent since it's mostly tourists esp on weekends.

Eh, it just depends what you want in a neighborhood.

Lakeview is basically Lincoln Park with 90% less Trixies/Bros or snobby rich bitches. Even within the neighborhood it's is a little more complex Halsted is flamingly queer while, Broadway is fairly subdued, Clark/Belmont is a bizarre mixed bag, and Wrigleyville is...er...Wrigleyville.

That's one of the things I like about Chicago, even withing a well defined neighborhood there can be great variety.

Yeah exactly, it's awesome. If you get sick of one neighborhood for whatever reason there's always another one nearby with a different feel to it. I've been lucky to have lived in the city long enough to have had friends in most neighborhoods.
 

irishScott

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Oct 10, 2006
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Nope. Not even self/naturally segregated. Probably because I've grown up in a medium-densely populated and extremely diverse area. I just like the variety.
 

Mo0o

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Depends on the community and how close I am to nonsegregated/metropolitan stuff.
 
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