michal1980
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Is there a reasonable chance that she's gonna get out and go murder someone? Doubtful.
So what?
See killed someone, took away someones life. Why should she now get to play?
Is there a reasonable chance that she's gonna get out and go murder someone? Doubtful.
Well at least landlords won't be able to turn her down when she applies to rent based uppn her murderous past
So what?
See killed someone, took away someones life. Why should she now get to play?
Why do you personally feel you have the right to final judgment?
You have your view. Is it difficult to accept that other people can have differing views?
Why do you?
Jail is not only to prevent bad people from doing more bad things. Its also a tool for punishing those that have wronged society.
If we cant have a death penalty for murder, then life in jail should mean life.
In liberal land, it means your in jail as long as theres still some mass outrage, once peoples anger over your murder subsides we'll let you out.
So, punishment for its own sake, right? Straight up old testament vindictiveness. Or is punishment more about preventing future misbehavior by attaching regret to actions?
If it's the latter, then serving life w/o parole is appropriate only for psychopaths, people incapable of regret.
Van Houten has been in prison 46 years, her entire adult life, likely a lot longer than your feeble consciousness has existed. I'm sure she came to the realization of just how fucked up she was at the time of the murders many, many years ago. Locked up or free, she'll likely regret it every day of her life. America can well afford to show her a tiny bit of mercy at this point, allow her some small measure of redemption.
There's more to Justice than pandering to the outrage of self righteous fools.
Van Houten said she and cult member Patricia Krenwinkel "took Mrs. LaBianca into the bedroom. And the sounds of Mr. La Bianca dying came into the bedroom -- horrible, guttural sounds. She started calling out to him and yelling for him. And at that moment, for a brief moment, I realized, you know, these are people that love each other."
Van Houten has said she helped secure a pillow over Rosemary LaBianca's head and held her down while another person stabbed her.
"And then Tex [cult member Charles "Tex" Watson] turned me around and handed me the knife," she told ABC News. "And he said, 'Do something, because Manson had told him to make sure that all of us got our hands dirty. And I stabbed Mrs. LaBianca in the lower back about 16 times."
Why would you want someone who kills to be set loose on society. So what happens if she kills someone else on parole. Is it oops sorry we wanted to give her a chance?
Never understood a word that I said. No wonder you're a Trumpster.
you still did not answer the question.
What does a 66 year old woman realesed from prison after 47 years do? Leverage work experience to get a job? File for social security based on $0 contributions?
Realistically, she will either commit crimes, live off the public dole through charity, or die on the streets.
I doubt this is a sympathy driven decision because the woman deserves to be free. Rather, I think the prison just doesn't want her elderly medical bills coming out of its budget.
I don't know if you are a board certified psychiatrist. Even if you are, without examining her, you cannot come to this conclusion. You could be consciously condemning someone to death, without knowing the medical details.Because it's a nonsense question. It's clear that Van Houten is not a psychopath. Therefore, the chances of her killing again are infinitesimal.
And where do you think the prison gets it's money?
What does a 66 year old woman realesed from prison after 47 years do? Leverage work experience to get a job? File for social security based on $0 contributions?
Realistically, she will either commit crimes, live off the public dole through charity, or die on the streets.
I doubt this is a sympathy driven decision because the woman deserves to be free. Rather, I think the prison just doesn't want her elderly medical bills coming out of its budget.
I don't know if you are a board certified psychiatrist. Even if you are, without examining her, you cannot come to this conclusion. You could be consciously condemning someone to death, without knowing the medical details.
This. No one who killed for kicks should ever get out.
Armed robbers, no. Jealous wives, eventually, some of them. The first because their decisions represent a fundamental disdain for others. The latter because their actions were not necessarily representative of sociopathic behavior.Who should get out? Armed robbers who murder? Jealous wives who murder?
So, punishment for its own sake, right? Straight up old testament vindictiveness. Or is punishment more about preventing future misbehavior by attaching regret to actions?
If it's the latter, then serving life w/o parole is appropriate only for psychopaths, people incapable of regret.
Van Houten has been in prison 46 years, her entire adult life, likely a lot longer than your feeble consciousness has existed. I'm sure she came to the realization of just how fucked up she was at the time of the murders many, many years ago. Locked up or free, she'll likely regret it every day of her life. America can well afford to show her a tiny bit of mercy at this point, allow her some small measure of redemption.
There's more to Justice than pandering to the outrage of self righteous fools.
Parole isn't a pardon.
She's been a model prisoner her entire adult life. Give the old gal a break.
The only reason she's been held as long as she has been is because of the sensationalism surrounding her crime. She ceased being a danger to society long ago. Realistically, it's cheaper to turn her loose at this point than to keep her locked up to satisfy the retributionists.
she was originally sentenced to death. But bleeding hearts like you would rather see murders go free then see then punished.