Would you rather be short and built or tall and full of excuses?

Amused

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As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

Gaining weight for the hard hainer is as hard and painful as losing weight is for the obese prone. It takes will-power and dedication... not excuses.

So, which would you rather be?
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: Amused
As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

No, it's not a valid excuse for anything. It's a valid reason for having been born with large enough equipment in other places so that you don't need to overcompensate in the arms. The fact that your self-esteem is tied up in how much chrome you can pick up and put down is quite frankly YOUR problem and you should not expect other people to share those same insecurities.
 

ElFenix

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doesn't this belong in brag & moan?


edit: you're oppressing my freedom and telling me how to live by ridiculing the fact that i'm tall and thin.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Amused
As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

No, it's not a valid excuse for anything. It's a valid reason for having been born with large enough equipment in other places so that you don't need to overcompensate in the arms. The fact that your self-esteem is tied up in how much chrome you can pick up and put down is quite frankly YOUR problem and you should not expect other people to share those same insecurities.

I started weight lifting to fend off late life diabetes and an early death at 59 like my father.

But thanks for playing the "he has something I don't so his penis must be small" game.
 

EGGO

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I already am short and sorta built. My reason for it was because I've always been made fun of for being fat.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Amused
As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

No, it's not a valid excuse for anything. It's a valid reason for having been born with large enough equipment in other places so that you don't need to overcompensate in the arms. The fact that your self-esteem is tied up in how much chrome you can pick up and put down is quite frankly YOUR problem and you should not expect other people to share those same insecurities.

I started weight lifting to fend off late life diabetes and an early death at 59 like my father.

But thanks for playing the "he has something I don't so his penis must be small" game.

No zippy, I was playing the "he's so obsessed about something insignificant that he's actually clueless enough to look down upon people who don't share the same obsessions" game. You might have understood that if you had spent more time picking up books instead of weights. Funny how "dumbbell" means something so different to you than it does to me. I'm 6'1' 195 and still wear the same size clothes that I wore in college when I started in both football and baseball at a D1 school. Why on earth should I go into a gym and spend hours picking things up and putting things down again? What exactly is packing on unnatural body mass supposed to do for me? The fact that you do it is once again your problem and you're welcome to it. I'd never step into a gym and call you out for doing it,. The fact that you start such a ridiculous thread to feel superior to the people who don't share your obsession changes the equation though. You started it, you painted the target on your own artificially inflated chest, now you're crying when someone takes the shot you invited.
 

Special K

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While I will say that most people can make noticeable changes to their physique if they work for it, obtaining 19" arms requires excellent genetics, drugs, or both.

Most people who use that metric as their benchmark for success will likely be disappointed.
 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: Amused
As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

I need an excuse not to be a body builder?

Screw that. Enjoy your 19" arms, shorty.
 

gamepad

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: Amused
As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

I need an excuse not to be a body builder?

Screw that. Enjoy your 19" arms, shorty.

6' is short?
 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: gamepad
Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: Amused
As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

I need an excuse not to be a body builder?

Screw that. Enjoy your 19" arms, shorty.

6' is short?

Six inches shorter than me. Not sure if I qualify as tall and skinny, though, at 220.
 

Cogman

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So if I am understanding you correctly, you where larger then normal and just now started lifting weights (Must be type 2 Diabetes as Type 1 isn't effected by your weight, and type 2 is linked of overweight)

I find it funny that you would take it upon yourself to generalize everyone in a large group of people to say "If you don't have 19" arms it is because you haven't tried and therefor are just making excuses". Guess what, I have been excirsizing all my life (a lot of farm work), I'm 6'2 and 140 lbs. My father, my brothers, and even his father where all the same as me. Guess what, genetics does make a difference! (And before you jump to the "You where all just lazy" My younger brother worked out much more then I did, he is 6'4 and 150 lbs.) Some people can just put on weight easier then others, that is all there is to it. An extremely high caloric intake can cause someone to gain weight, but some people don't gain from it, IE me.

I'm not trying to make excuses for myself, I realize that if I where to hit the weight machines really hard with an expert nutritionist monitoring all my meals and snacks I could hit 160, but that isn't an easy thing to arrange. Overall I am happy working out regularly and staying in good shape for myself.
 

gamepad

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: gamepad
Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: Amused
As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

I need an excuse not to be a body builder?

Screw that. Enjoy your 19" arms, shorty.

6' is short?

Six inches shorter than me.

I guess I'm a midget... Oh well, at least i can look buff after working out for 8 days.
 

Deeko

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Those of you attacking the OP obviously missed the other thread about short vs tall. A lot of people in that thread said "oh I'm naturally tall and skinny, I CANT be tall and built!"

All the OP is saying is that those people are lying, they just don't want to put in the work. And he's absolutely correct. Can a lanky 6'4" guy look like Arnold? Probably not, but he can still get to a certain level of "buffness" with the proper work and dedication.
 

Cogman

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Those of you attacking the OP obviously missed the other thread about short vs tall. A lot of people in that thread said "oh I'm naturally tall and skinny, I CANT be tall and built!"

All the OP is saying is that those people are lying, they just don't want to put in the work. And he's absolutely correct. Can a lanky 6'4" guy look like Arnold? Probably not, but he can still get to a certain level of "buffness" with the proper work and dedication.

Rules of internet forums.

1. There shall be no demand that the user of the forums know about any other post except for the one he is posting in. Notable exceptions include: Alternator sized bulk beef.
 

mattjbak

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i'd rather live my life not relating peoples worth and character by their physical build.
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: Cogman


An extremely high caloric intake can cause someone to gain weight, but some people don't gain from it, IE me.

If you can't gain weight on an "extremely high caloric intake", then obviously it wasn't high enough.

Exactly how many calories were you eating during your time of "extremely high caloric intake"?

You don't need an expert nutritionist to gain weight. Try this simple formula:

1. calories consumed = bodyweight * 20

2. If last weeks weight didn't increase by a pound relative to the week before, add 300 calories to daily total

3. Repeat step 2 until weight gained per week = ~1 lb.

If you don't *want* to gain weight, that's one thing. But no one has any excuse as to why they *can't* gain any - they just aren't eating enough, period. You can't cheat the law of conservation of energy. If you keep increasing your caloric intake, eventually you *will* gain weight.

 

irishScott

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Yeah, well I'm 5'11 180 lbs without working out (in terms of weights anyways). Medium frame, solidly built. I row, run, play soccer, bike, and take Krav Maga.

Tall != thin.
 

Cogman

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Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: Cogman


An extremely high caloric intake can cause someone to gain weight, but some people don't gain from it, IE me.

If you can't gain weight on an "extremely high caloric intake", then obviously it wasn't high enough.

Exactly how many calories were you eating during your time of "extremely high caloric intake"?

You don't need an expert nutritionist to gain weight. Try this simple formula:

1. calories consumed = bodyweight * 20

2. If last weeks weight didn't increase by a pound relative to the week before, add 300 calories to daily total

3. Repeat step 2 until weight gained per week = ~1 lb.

If you don't *want* to gain weight, that's one thing. But no one has any excuse as to why they *can't* gain any - they just aren't eating enough, period. You can't cheat the law of conservation of energy. If you keep increasing your caloric intake, eventually you *will* gain weight.

Ok, My point was you cant just say that "If you eat X calories you will gain weight like me" It just isn't true. I eat until I am full and enjoy not feeling hungry, it would be hell for me to force myself to eat more and always feel hungry when I don't want to gain weight.

But your point was well taken.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Amused
As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

No, it's not a valid excuse for anything. It's a valid reason for having been born with large enough equipment in other places so that you don't need to overcompensate in the arms. The fact that your self-esteem is tied up in how much chrome you can pick up and put down is quite frankly YOUR problem and you should not expect other people to share those same insecurities.

I started weight lifting to fend off late life diabetes and an early death at 59 like my father.

But thanks for playing the "he has something I don't so his penis must be small" game.

No zippy, I was playing the "he's so obsessed about something insignificant that he's actually clueless enough to look down upon people who don't share the same obsessions" game. You might have understood that if you had spent more time picking up books instead of weights. Funny how "dumbbell" means something so different to you than it does to me. I'm 6'1' 195 and still wear the same size clothes that I wore in college when I started in both football and baseball at a D1 school. Why on earth should I go into a gym and spend hours picking things up and putting things down again? What exactly is packing on unnatural body mass supposed to do for me? The fact that you do it is once again your problem and you're welcome to it. I'd never step into a gym and call you out for doing it,. The fact that you start such a ridiculous thread to feel superior to the people who don't share your obsession changes the equation though. You started it, you painted the target on your own artificially inflated chest, now you're crying when someone takes the shot you invited.

And you're so fucking observant that you missed the fact that this was also a parody thread.
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Amused
As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

No, it's not a valid excuse for anything. It's a valid reason for having been born with large enough equipment in other places so that you don't need to overcompensate in the arms. The fact that your self-esteem is tied up in how much chrome you can pick up and put down is quite frankly YOUR problem and you should not expect other people to share those same insecurities.

I started weight lifting to fend off late life diabetes and an early death at 59 like my father.

But thanks for playing the "he has something I don't so his penis must be small" game.

No zippy, I was playing the "he's so obsessed about something insignificant that he's actually clueless enough to look down upon people who don't share the same obsessions" game. You might have understood that if you had spent more time picking up books instead of weights. Funny how "dumbbell" means something so different to you than it does to me. I'm 6'1' 195 and still wear the same size clothes that I wore in college when I started in both football and baseball at a D1 school. Why on earth should I go into a gym and spend hours picking things up and putting things down again? What exactly is packing on unnatural body mass supposed to do for me? The fact that you do it is once again your problem and you're welcome to it. I'd never step into a gym and call you out for doing it,. The fact that you start such a ridiculous thread to feel superior to the people who don't share your obsession changes the equation though. You started it, you painted the target on your own artificially inflated chest, now you're crying when someone takes the shot you invited.

And you're so fucking observant that you missed the fact that this was also a parody thread.

If this is a parody then you failed miserably.
 

gamepad

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Amused
As someone who is 6' and a fairly advanced all natural bodybuilder (19"arms) I have to say, being tall and skinny is not a valid excuse for not following a natural bodybuilding program and putting on signifigant amounts of muscle.

No, it's not a valid excuse for anything. It's a valid reason for having been born with large enough equipment in other places so that you don't need to overcompensate in the arms. The fact that your self-esteem is tied up in how much chrome you can pick up and put down is quite frankly YOUR problem and you should not expect other people to share those same insecurities.

I started weight lifting to fend off late life diabetes and an early death at 59 like my father.

But thanks for playing the "he has something I don't so his penis must be small" game.

No zippy, I was playing the "he's so obsessed about something insignificant that he's actually clueless enough to look down upon people who don't share the same obsessions" game. You might have understood that if you had spent more time picking up books instead of weights. Funny how "dumbbell" means something so different to you than it does to me. I'm 6'1' 195 and still wear the same size clothes that I wore in college when I started in both football and baseball at a D1 school. Why on earth should I go into a gym and spend hours picking things up and putting things down again? What exactly is packing on unnatural body mass supposed to do for me? The fact that you do it is once again your problem and you're welcome to it. I'd never step into a gym and call you out for doing it,. The fact that you start such a ridiculous thread to feel superior to the people who don't share your obsession changes the equation though. You started it, you painted the target on your own artificially inflated chest, now you're crying when someone takes the shot you invited.

And you're so fucking observant that you missed the fact that this was also a parody thread.

So your working out due to diabetes is a parody? Show me the thread.
 

TehMac

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I don't know, for me, it's hard finding time to take 5 college courses and lift weights at the same time, especially when you need to organize certain hours of the day for it. So tbh, there are excuses, obviously I'm working towards being muscular, but not going to happen at an accelerated rate right now.



<--------Hopefully lifting out later today.
 

lyssword

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what's up with the need to be gigantic? Just being healthy and athletic is not good enough? Or does most american's job depend on their ability to flip small cars?
 
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