Would you still risk doing a Sandy Bridge build?

[Diogenes2]

I stand corrected. Is it a theoretical possibility though?

Anything is possible..

My point, was that you are no more at risk for data corruption with this issue, than you would be if the P67 was bug-free.

A defective on-drive controller would put you at risk in any event..

 

[Hogan773]

Anything is possible..

My point, was that you are no more at risk for data corruption with this issue, than you would be if the P67 was bug-free.

A defective on-drive controller would put you at risk in any event..

ohhhhh my laawwwddd are you serious! My Data is PRECIOUS! How do I know if my on-drive controller is bad! I think I heard it making noises last night. Now I can't sleep anymore! I am gonna call Western Digital and demand they take back my HDD because there is a theoretical possibility my data will become corrupted! Arrrggggghhhhhh

[the above is a re-enactment of an actual Anandtech poster]

 

[alaricljs]

You need to upgrade to one of those IBM drives with the magic pixxy dust... Oh wait, that's Hitachi now, Do they use green PCBs ?

 

[sandorski]

I'm an AMD fan through and through, so this situation would never affect me(assuming AMD never has a similar situation). That said, if one needs the SATA II ports or they can't rely on the available SATA III ports, it would be recommended to get a Controller card to hold you over until your Motherboard Manufacturer can replace your current boards. Although the percentage is low and the failure over 3 years seems long, obviously some have already failed(ahh, this is not the case I just found out) and you're taking a chance by continuing to use those ports. Given your usage it seems doubly important to ensure a flawless system(as far as the resources being used) as running into this problem could potentially corrupt the Output or possibly at the very least negate any advantage your system currently provides.

Other than that it should work just fine.

 

[jimhsu]

Some perspective for "data corruption issues":

Hard drives have a manufacturer stated annual failure rate (no, MTTF is completely useless) of 0.88% according to manufacturers, but 2-4% (or up to 13% in some cases) in the real world: http://www.pcworld.com/article/1295...e_rates_much_higher_than_makers_estimate.html

Over 3 years, that is a 6-12% failure rate. This is fairly close to the stated Intel figure.

So is a 5-15% failure rate over 3 years "high"? After all, 3 times as many laptops fail within the same time period (a third!) http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/laptop-reliability-1109/ with netbooks even worse.

Are you really risking your data to a 2-4% annual failure rate without a backup? If so, I guess that the SATA controller problem is a non issue. If not, congratulations for backing up (and verifying that your backed up data is not corrupt, an integral part of any backup strategy.) This shouldn't be a issue for you then, other than the possibility of some downtime.

 

[CraigRT]

In your shoes, I'd consider just going with a first generation i7.
I was just about to put my i7 860/P55A-UD4P up for sale but I guess I'm keeping it a little longer.

 

[joe_H]

Chip and memory came in yesterday. PSU and Mobo are scheduled to come in tomorrow. I'll probably order the H70 in the next day or so. I'm just waiting for the official statement from Asus, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to go ahead with the build. I will have 3 or 4 SATA devices on my P8P67 Pro board, so will probably never touch the SATA2 ports. If I need more, I'll just get a $25 controller board.

My data is all backed up to a WHS box, and even that is backed up to external HDDs. I understand that people are uneasy about a potential defect in the mobo, but some people act like they're after a pound of flesh. I see very little chance for data corruption...simply a chance that the mobo will be unable to recognize the SATA connection anymore.

Low risk of port failure combined with my potential of ever using the SATA2 ports < my not wanting to wait until April to complete my build.

 

[SniperWulf]

ohhhhh my laawwwddd are you serious! My Data is PRECIOUS! How do I know if my on-drive controller is bad! I think I heard it making noises last night. Now I can't sleep anymore! I am gonna call Western Digital and demand they take back my HDD because there is a theoretical possibility my data will become corrupted! Arrrggggghhhhhh

[the above is a re-enactment of an actual Anandtech poster]

ROFL! :thumbsup:

 

[PingSpike]

I would say the chances of data corruptions are tiny and not worth worrying about. I suppose in theory it could fail half way through a write but it seems like that would only affect the stuff you were working on at that moment and you should have backups of that. From what we've heard there isn't any reason to believe the controller will be silently writing garbage all over your files for weeks before you notice. It'll probably just get slow as hell before the port stops working altogether with a slim possibility of it failing during a file save operation and the loss of changes on the immediate files that are open, probably followed by windows taking a dump due to it not being able to assess the boot drive.

 

[tomoyo]

There's always unknown risk in any computer, but the known risk only occurs if you use SATA-2 ports or you might hope to use them in the future. Personally I hate defective prodocts AND I want to use at least 4 sata devices. And I'd recommend anyone else against a build, but if you have a specific need with low sata-device count, you may not care or need to take any risk.

 

[RussianSensation]

Server motherboards only.

Thanks for pointing that out PreferLinux. Bad mistake on my part. Thanks!

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

yes yes and no

 

[PreferLinux]

I would say the chances of data corruptions are tiny and not worth worrying about. I suppose in theory it could fail half way through a write but it seems like that would only affect the stuff you were working on at that moment and you should have backups of that. From what we've heard there isn't any reason to believe the controller will be silently writing garbage all over your files for weeks before you notice. It'll probably just get slow as hell before the port stops working altogether with a slim possibility of it failing during a file save operation and the loss of changes on the immediate files that are open, probably followed by windows taking a dump due to it not being able to assess the boot drive.

The chances of data corruption due to a power cut would be much higher than it failing during a write. There is no way it would be writing nonsense, as they have ECC (that's what it's to prevent (in both directions)), so yes, it would just slow down. And yes, it would be very slow (easily noticeable) before it stopped working.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

you want data corruption? Buy a Seagate Baracuda 1TB hdd

 

[TorxT3D]

honestly, if i had a shop around the corner from me right now that had a 2600k and asus pro, i'd pull the trigger.
im considering ebay right now.. but dunno if i wanna take that risk.
have they halted bios updates for p67 mobos across the board as well??

i cant wait until april.
i would just rma... but being without a computer for weeks for a swap could be a problem.

i could also consider the asrock extreme6 because it has more sata 3 ports than any other board.
does anyone know if connecting a dvd burner to the sata 2 ports and burning/reading has caused any problems??
according to the asus p67 pro specs, the sata 3 ports dont support atapi devices, so im assuming it doesnt support dvd drives, only hard drives.

 

[Krynj]

That's what I'm doing. There are some online stores still selling the 2600K and p67 boards, and they're not that much more than NewEgg had them. I plan on ordering in a week-week and a half, so hopefully stores are still stocking them.

I'm really not concerned about this P67 issue at all. If I'm part of the 80&#37;-85% that's unaffected by the bug, sweet. If not, oh well. I knew the risks involved when I bought the board.

 

[clok1966]

Seems like a silly question, anyplace with a reputation has pulled the boards from sale. the ones on AMAZON are 3rd party and probebly have no support, Warrenty is through Original equipment manufacture (buyer beware, its up to you!).

For those of us who have already purchased, its very simple. Sit on it and use it untill our replacement boards are ready or RMA it now and sit on our chips and memory untill boards are ready. To me it pretty cut and dried. Im going to use it, skip the SATA II ports and pay the ASTOUNDING price of $25 for a extra SATA III card (yes I need 4 total).

Would I purchase again if I knew the problem was on the board? Probebly not, I had no "NEED" of an upgrade but the new stuff was so appealing. I would just wait (as everybody else will unless you go through some fly by night supplier) untill the new stuff comes out and have ordered then.

As for data corruption, frommy reading (here and on intels note on it) highly unlikley, as in the same chance as with a "prefect" chip set.... sure it could happen, but doubtfull. AND if you are that worried, $25 will fix it. Or as some stated good backups.

Like i said, now, YOU CANT buy unless you get from a vendor who slipped under the rader. To each his own on that. For us who did buy, we have 2 options, RMA now, or wait. Again, to each his own.


this has only served to make the Fanboys on both sides a little more foamy at the mouth. AMD users will point out this forever and scream "sure glad intel gets you to pay to beta test" and the Intel guys will say "who cares".. I care. but not enough to worry about it now that ist in a case and running.. I get a free "fixed" board. Worst case I will be without may machine for a week.

 

[TorxT3D]

for those that are going ahead with the builds.. what sata 2 card can be recommended?
i see several on newegg, some are well over 100-200+, there are some for $20-40.

any good advice?

 

[alaricljs]

How many ports and for what purpose? If you're just throwing optical drives on it I'd get the cheapest thing with a warranty or reasonable return rules.

 

[alaricljs]

Here's the cheapest card with a chipset I trust. I have 6 cards with the Sil3124 on it, this card uses the Sil3132 (next revision, 2 ports instead of 4): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815280008

Understand that it is a 2 port card, each port being connected to both an internal and external connector.

 

[JWalker55]

I took a chance and ordered a P8P67 and an i5-2500k from Buy.com today. I don't care about the SATAII ports, as I won't use them. Just hoping they will still ship it, because both the board and CPU disappeared off their site not long after I ordered.

 

[clok1966]

I took a chance and ordered a P8P67 and an i5-2500k from Buy.com today. I don't care about the SATAII ports, as I won't use them. Just hoping they will still ship it, because both the board and CPU disappeared off their site not long after I ordered.

As I mentioned, Im sure most "name" retailers will pull them. They will most likley be eating all or some part of the shipping and the sooner they pull the better for them. its also never a good idea to sell a product with a known flaw, no matter how big or how small it is, somebody will make it seem like end of the world. Simply a good business practice to stay out of the "whit pit" that will be occupied by both sides till this all dies out in 6 months or so.

And i agree, nothing to worry about if you not using the ports, why not

 

[JWalker55]

Yeah, i'm sure they're not going to ship, but it was worth a try. Might have to try Ebay or something. I guess you could say i'm impatient. lol

 

[Viper GTS]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815124020

That's the card I ended up with after much research. I had it in the mail already when this was announced, as I was out of SATA ports & needed to move my four DVD drives off the onboard ports to make room for more spindle drives. It's a Silicon Image 3114 based board, and is flashable to an IDE mode BIOS via a download from Silicon Image's website.

I flashed it to IDE mode, & it's running my drives with no problem.

Cheap, 4 ports, and it works in IDE only so it fit my needs perfectly. If you need more bandwidth for hard drives it may not be suitable.

Viper GTS

 

[Pohemi]

...i could also consider the asrock extreme6 because it has more sata 3 ports than any other board.
does anyone know if connecting a dvd burner to the sata 2 ports and burning/reading has caused any problems??...

I just built a system on an Asrock Extreme6, and my DVD burner is the only thing connected to a SATA II port atm. It's the Intel set it's using atm, and haven't noticed any problems yet.
I have more SATA II ports I can use (a few on the Marvel chip) so it gives me issues I'll just move it. My HDDs are connected to SATA III ports and working fine. They're SATA II drives.