Would you trade a 6800 Ultra for a X850 XTPE ?

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Bar81

Originally posted by: Rollo

Sorry, you're the blatant fanboy. Making comments like the above pretty much shoots down any credibility you thought you had.

Of course, post like "Why you don't need SM3- what nVidia won't tell you" makes you completely objective!

When you buy a clue Rollo, let me know. The thread is in fact completely objective and only lays out the facts about SM3.0. If they don't agree with your nVidia cheerleading, then that's your problem.

Interesting how back in the days when Tomb Raider AOD (which most reviewers called an abomination) was the only game out using PS2, every ATI fan on the planet pointed at those benchmarks for months on end saying it's the harbinger of things to come, and reason to buy SLI.

Now when popular games like Far Cry, Riddick, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, and Painkiller are implementing nVidia only features, and more are slated, the battle cry has changed to "you don't need those features" or "they have too much performance hit". (when in actuality the performance hit isn't any higher than PS2 on first gen ATI hardware) Or in the case of less popular games like PitFall or Pacific Fightersw, "those games suck anyway".

LOL, tough to fathom this:
When nVidia doesn't have it, and it's not in games, you need it!
When ATI doesn't have it, and it is in games, you don't!

Makes sense to me- long live PS2 and partial precision!

 

[Bar81]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Bar81

Originally posted by: Rollo

Sorry, you're the blatant fanboy. Making comments like the above pretty much shoots down any credibility you thought you had.

Of course, post like "Why you don't need SM3- what nVidia won't tell you" makes you completely objective!

When you buy a clue Rollo, let me know. The thread is in fact completely objective and only lays out the facts about SM3.0. If they don't agree with your nVidia cheerleading, then that's your problem.

Interesting how back in the days when Tomb Raider AOD (which most reviewers called an abomination) was the only game out using PS2, every ATI fan on the planet pointed at those benchmarks for months on end saying it's the harbinger of things to come, and reason to buy SLI.

Now when popular games like Far Cry, Riddick, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, and Painkiller are implementing nVidia only features, and more are slated, the battle cry has changed to "you don't need those features" or "they have too much performance hit". (when in actuality the performance hit isn't any higher than PS2 on first gen ATI hardware) Or in the case of less popular games like PitFall or Pacific Fightersw, "those games suck anyway".

LOL, tough to fathom this:
When nVidia doesn't have it, and it's not in games, you need it!
When ATI doesn't have it, and it is in games, you don't!

Makes sense to me- long live PS2 and partial precision!

Please don't put words into my mouth. Tomb Raider AOD was such a complete pile of crap that anyone who thought that justified PS2.0 was an obvious fanboy. When PS2.0 caused games to take such a performance hit, it was also not a must have feature for exactly that reason.

To tell you the truth, I didn't even factor PS2.0 into any decision about a card I've ever made. PS3.0 has just kind of gotten a lot more attention solely due to the nvidia hype machine. nvidia sought to show that somehow SM3.0 is a feature you *have* to have when that idea is highly suspect with regards to the current generation of cards as there are issues regarding usefullness of SM3.0 and performance concerns when enabling effects developers are including.

PS3.0 WILL matter; it's just questionable right now whether it does *currently* matter when purchasing a CURRENT generation video card.

Again, please stick to what I do say, not the pigeonhole you've created for me that seems to include a lot of fascinating ideas that don't reflect what I say or think.

PS Pitfall Harry DOES suck and I've never made a comment regarding Pacific Fighters so AGAIN STOP MAKING THINGS UP.

 

[rogerhewett]

~revive revive~ !!

One of the most important things that made me choose my first ATi card was the simple fact it was dx 9 compliant while the nVidia card was not. To say that Shader Model 3.0 doesn't really matter that much is a statement made of ignorance. Of couse it matters!!
This is a "Standard" just like Direct X is a "Standard" and it improves the quality of my games why wouldn't I want it? The fact that 1 Game is currently out (1 that I know of) that supports this is a reason enough for me to be onboard.

"You don't code a bunch of software and then go tell someone to make some hardware that will run it. You wait until the hardware is released then start programming for that Hardware."

 

[MisterChief]

Why can't you just let this thread die a quiet and peaceful death? I think it's deserved that much... have some sympathy!

 

[rbV5]

"You don't code a bunch of software and then go tell someone to make some hardware that will run it. You wait until the hardware is released then start programming for that Hardware."

You mean like Doom3 and HL2? Is it really necissary to revive this thread anyway? I'm sure most people took that into account when they voted. No less than 40 posts mentioned SM3.0....LID:roll:

 

[rogerhewett]

I don't know what your trying to say to me.

 

[MisterChief]

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

 

[MegaWorks]

This quote explains this thread:

If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.

Sun Tzu

:roll:

 

[christopherzombie]

I'd trade my 6800ultra for an overclocked-liquid-cooled GF2 MX.

 

[Aries64]

Originally posted by: 302efi
Both cards are PCI-e

I'm almost temped to make this trade

What would you do ??

I would definitely trade. But I'm not you. However, (a) if I was a DOOM 3 player, which I'm not because I burned-out on Doom after Doom 2, and (b) if I was concerned about Shader Model 3 support (which I'm not because by the time a significant number of games that I might play support/need it I'll be upgrading again) I might think about it. Everyone knows that Nvidia pwns ATI in Doom 3. SFW. I got Doom 3 for Christmas 2004 and I never play it. Halo PC rules.

Depending upon what games you play and what benchmarks you look at on different PC sites, ATI and Nvidia will both win and lose some. Whats most important is what games you will play and if you think Shader Model 3 (SM3) is important. No computer is "futureproof".

Go forth and choose wisely...

 

[Cayenne]

"How many times do I have to say this.

Ultras in SLI not only is a waste of money, you won't notice a difference between 2 Ultras and an x850XT PE"

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I don't trust all benchmark's but if there is one that I trust above all, it's CPU Magazine's, and in the February 2005 issue on page 22 and 23 there is an article about the Nvidia 6800 Ultra SLI complete w/Benchmarks. Then, on the very next page (24), there is another article about the X850XT and I can tell you that according to these 2 articles, what that guy just said is accurate!!!!

The 1 ATI Card out-performed 2 6800's!!!

 

[Gamingphreek]

Ok noob this thread has been happily dead and on its way to burial and you went and revived it with a comment in which you obviously have no idea what in the world you are talking about.

Please just stop posting.

-Kevin

 

[jrphoenix]

I have an AGP 6800 Ultra I would trade now

 

[BrokenVisage]

Oh no.. it's back! :Q

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Cayenne
"How many times do I have to say this.

Ultras in SLI not only is a waste of money, you won't notice a difference between 2 Ultras and an x850XT PE"

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I don't trust all benchmark's but if there is one that I trust above all, it's CPU Magazine's, and in the February 2005 issue on page 22 and 23 there is an article about the Nvidia 6800 Ultra SLI complete w/Benchmarks. Then, on the very next page (24), there is another article about the X850XT and I can tell you that according to these 2 articles, what that guy just said is accurate!!!!

The 1 ATI Card out-performed 2 6800's!!!

LOL- you'll have to say it till someone other than you believes it, because I can link you to all kinds of benchmarks all over the web that show 6800U SLI 40-80% faster than a X850XT PE at some very high settings.

WTH is "CPU Magazine" anyway? :roll:

 

[imported_Noob]

X800 XT PE is already better then the 6800 Ultra. I would trade unless you go SLI.

 

[302efi]

Damn..Who brought the thread back up ??..lol

Instead of making the trade, I went ahead and just bought the X850 XTPE a week later...

That being said, the X850XTPE got sold on Ebay 2 weeks later