Would you trade a 6800 Ultra for a X850 XTPE ?

[Compddd]

I got rid of my ultra because it blew up on its own after a month with zero overcloking. Did I mention it ran hot and loud as hell? This X850XT is a silent cool dream card.

 

[Murd0ck]

Got rid of it as in threw it away? No warranty? Bummer man, sorry about your luck. (seriously)

Some of those Nvidia card manufactures make some real junk I hear.

I wouldn't go anywhere near some of those 6xxx series cards, especially the ones from Gainward. I hear their "golden sample" stuff is total junk.

I am also going to sell the following items: A8N SLI board, 1 stick of my twinx 1024-4400c25pt dual channel ram and 1 of my 2 Western Digital 36.7 gig raptors...

I now realize that SLI is a joke as is dual channel memory, RAID0 hard drive arrays, and most likely dual core cpu's (another good reason to sell the A8N SLI S939 motherboard)

All this "dual this" "dual that" is just some marketing ploy to get us to buy 2x the amount of hardware for 2x the price.

While I'm at it I think I'll pull 7 of the 8 spark plug wires on my V8 Yukon. All those extra cylinders are just a waste of gas and they don't really do anything anyway. What I need is a motor with 1 big cylinder, stupid engineers.. Pfft what the hell was I thinking, buying into all that "hype"...

 

[BW86]

Trade the 6800 Ultra for the X850 XTPE

 

[inxane]

the card is going up for auction tomorrow on ebay if I don't find someone here that will trade instead of saying they would. I'm not here to debate on who thinks what card is better, I could care less to be honest. Opinions are like.... you get the point =)

Stick with what you want, what you like, and don't care about what others think/say. Enjoy what you have if what you have is what you want. Don't sit here and argue back and forth all day long on different reasons why one card is better than the other... it's an endless battle!

it's hardware, tomorrow there will be something new.. you can argue to your grave at this rate.

-Kevin

 

[AznAnarchy99]

everyone says SLI is so good but it only makes a difference in a few games. 2 ultras doesnt beat 1 x850xtpe in hl2

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: Murd0ck
Got rid of it as in threw it away? No warranty? Bummer man, sorry about your luck. (seriously)

Some of those Nvidia card manufactures make some real junk I hear.

I wouldn't go anywhere near some of those 6xxx series cards, especially the ones from Gainward. I hear their "golden sample" stuff is total junk.

I am also going to sell the following items: A8N SLI board, 1 stick of my twinx 1024-4400c25pt dual channel ram and 1 of my 2 Western Digital 36.7 gig raptors...

I now realize that SLI is a joke as is dual channel memory, RAID0 hard drive arrays, and most likely dual core cpu's (another good reason to sell the A8N SLI S939 motherboard)

All this "dual this" "dual that" is just some marketing ploy to get us to buy 2x the amount of hardware for 2x the price.

While I'm at it I think I'll pull 7 of the 8 spark plug wires on my V8 Yukon. All those extra cylinders are just a waste of gas and they don't really do anything anyway. What I need is a motor with 1 big cylinder, stupid engineers.. Pfft what the hell was I thinking, buying into all that "hype"...

Damn you Murd0ck, I read your post and had my sarcasm meter turned off and typed up a big long post debunking what you said, and then I read it again and my sarcasm meter popped on and I was like, :light:

 

[Murd0ck]

Originally posted by: inxane
the card is going up for auction tomorrow on ebay if I don't find someone here that will trade instead of saying they would. I'm not here to debate on who thinks what card is better, I could care less to be honest. Opinions are like.... you get the point =)

Stick with what you want, what you like, and don't care about what others think/say. Enjoy what you have if what you have is what you want. Don't sit here and argue back and forth all day long on different reasons why one card is better than the other... it's an endless battle!

it's hardware, tomorrow there will be something new.. you can argue to your grave at this rate.

-Kevin

Well inxane, the guy who started this thread had the pci-e version, you don't. You might consider starting a new thread stating what you have and what you want to trade it for.

Didn't someone already tell you that they don't make the card you want (x850xtpe) in AGP?!?!?

I don't want to pick a fight here, we are all in this together. Whichever brands we choose we all want the best bang for our buck, er well some of us anyway..

You're right about opinions, everyone has one. Here is another opinion. You need to do more reading/reasearch before deciding whos opinion is worth considering. If you don't have the ability to use a pci-e card (x850xtpe) then you might be better off keeping the card you have.

Have you tried the latest drivers?

Have you tried to overclock you 6800U oc past 425/??

Have you considered another heatsink?

Do you realise that Hardocp shows a 13 fps difference in favor of the 6800U when it comes to minimum framerates? 33 for 6800U vs 20 for x800xtpe.

I think you will notice the difference between the slower framerates in the 20-30's much more than a similar difference (13 fps) in the 60-70 fps range.

HardOcp HL2 comparision

What other hadrware do you have and is it limiting your performance?

You might have already looked at all these things and then some and I hold no stock or loyality to Nvidia or ATI, but I do hope things work out for you.

BTW (not that it matters) but it's "I couldn't care less" not "I could care less" and there is also nothing wrong with a debate about video cards or whatever else in the forums.

Debates and opposing opinions are a part of life and are usually constructive in some way, try not to be so put off by it Good luck with it all , Chuck.

 

[Murd0ck]

 

[Murd0ck]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: Murd0ck
Got rid of it as in threw it away? No warranty? Bummer man, sorry about your luck. (seriously)

Some of those Nvidia card manufactures make some real junk I hear.

I wouldn't go anywhere near some of those 6xxx series cards, especially the ones from Gainward. I hear their "golden sample" stuff is total junk.

I am also going to sell the following items: A8N SLI board, 1 stick of my twinx 1024-4400c25pt dual channel ram and 1 of my 2 Western Digital 36.7 gig raptors...

I now realize that SLI is a joke as is dual channel memory, RAID0 hard drive arrays, and most likely dual core cpu's (another good reason to sell the A8N SLI S939 motherboard)

All this "dual this" "dual that" is just some marketing ploy to get us to buy 2x the amount of hardware for 2x the price.

While I'm at it I think I'll pull 7 of the 8 spark plug wires on my V8 Yukon. All those extra cylinders are just a waste of gas and they don't really do anything anyway. What I need is a motor with 1 big cylinder, stupid engineers.. Pfft what the hell was I thinking, buying into all that "hype"...

Damn you Murd0ck, I read your post and had my sarcasm meter turned off and typed up a big long post debunking what you said, and then I read it again and my sarcasm meter popped on and I was like, :light:

ROFL :laugh: :evil: Heh, sry about that I will try to denote (sarcasm) in the future. :beer: :beer:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Compddd
I got rid of my ultra because it blew up on its own after a month with zero overcloking. Did I mention it ran hot and loud as hell? This X850XT is a silent cool dream card.

Another "good" argument. Compddd got a defective one, therefore ATI is the choice, because he has never gotten a defective ATI card.

Makes sense......errrr.........

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
everyone says SLI is so good but it only makes a difference in a few games. 2 ultras doesnt beat 1 x850xtpe in hl2

They should (barely) but they should absolutely own a XT PE in Doom3, Riddick, Far Cry, UT2004, BF Vietnam, etc etc etc.

6800Us owning X800XT PE

6800Us owning X850XT PEs at Riddick, offering stencil shadows to boot

So while it's nice to say "SLI doesn't do much better in one game", IMO it's more indicative of overall difference to show SLI putting the smack down at 35-80% better at a handful?

You are right about the one game though, the game ATI paid $300 million to have optimised for their cards does indeed run best on their cards.

Too bad no other developers will work with them like Gabe, GITG logos might be sighted more than Bigfoot if they would.

 

[inxane]

Originally posted by: Murd0ck


Well inxane, the guy who started this thread had the pci-e version, you don't. You might consider starting a new thread stating what you have and what you want to trade it for.

Didn't someone already tell you that they don't make the card you want (x850xtpe) in AGP?!?!?

I don't want to pick a fight here, we are all in this together. Whichever brands we choose we all want the best bang for our buck, er well some of us anyway..

You're right about opinions, everyone has one. Here is another opinion. You need to do more reading/reasearch before deciding whos opinion is worth considering. If you don't have the ability to use a pci-e card (x850xtpe) then you might be better off keeping the card you have.

Have you tried the latest drivers?

Have you tried to overclock you 6800U oc past 425/??

Have you considered another heatsink?

Do you realise that Hardocp shows a 13 fps difference in favor of the 6800U when it comes to minimum framerates? 33 for 6800U vs 20 for x800xtpe.

I think you will notice the difference between the slower framerates in the 20-30's much more than a similar difference (13 fps) in the 60-70 fps range.

HardOcp HL2 comparision

What other hadrware do you have and is it limiting your performance?

You might have already looked at all these things and then some and I hold no stock or loyality to Nvidia or ATI, but I do hope things work out for you.

BTW (not that it matters) but it's "I couldn't care less" not "I could care less" and there is also nothing wrong with a debate about video cards or whatever else in the forums.

Debates and opposing opinions are a part of life and are usually constructive in some way, try not to be so put off by it Good luck with it all , Chuck.

1. good point, but I didn't want to start an entirely new thread just because my card is agp. If no one wants to trade here, it's no big deal... i'll sell it on eBay.

2. Someone did already tell me, and I already told them I would go with an x800 XT PE... you must have missed my post.

3. I never said anything about who's opinion is right/wrong or worth considering, so I am lost on why you even stated that. I also chose not to have the ability for PCI-E becuase at this point in time, there is no noticeable difference in performance between agp/pci-E at this point in time. (If i'm mistaken, please prove me wrong on this... because that's the only thing I would be interesting in).

4. Yes, I have tried the latest drivers... and again, my original post stated that the card is excellent... however, in Half-Life 2 it's performance is nothing close to ATI's cards because valve decided to force "32-bit floating-point shader" while the game doesn't even utilize anything past 24-bit, which is why nvidia cards get such a performance hit while playing the game. You are welcome to read more about it here.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=838630&page=1&pp=20

5. OC'ing/heatsink/hardware has nothing to do with the problem i'm having and Half-Life 2. The reason was already discussed.

6. I know the performance is greater with the nvidia card, but not when it comes to half-life 2... which i've stated many times is the reason why, and the only reason, i'm selling the card. I'm not sure when/where you got the idea that I was in favor of ATI/Nvidia when it comes to overall performance... i'm just interested in Half-Life 2 performance and i've done plenty of research.

7. In regards to "I could care less", take a look... neither of us are wrong.

http://learnenglishnow.com/icouldcareless.html

8. Debating is one thing, but when it comes to 7 pages of "debating" it becomes argueing on who is right/wrong on subjects which have already been discussed in the same thread over and over. So my statement still stands.


Good luck to you as well, however it's just hardware... go with whatever makes your boat float. lol

-Kevin

 

[Steffenm]

I bet 2x6800Ultra perform better than one X800XT, but I can say for sure that 2x6800Ultra costs more than twice as much. So is it worth the money? No, only if you're the kind of person who wipe your ass with $1000 bills.

Rollo: Where did you get the number $300 million? I would like to see that article. Would be interesting reading (no sarcasm) But personally, I think nVidia payed ID Software quite a heavy sum of money too to get that extra notch of performance. And the rest of the games (FarCry, Riddick) simply performs better on 2x6800Ultra because it's a more powerful graphics-rig... and therefore the double price tag. Is this wrong? FarCry is after all a Direct3D game? Which would win when 2x6800Ultra competed against 2xX850XT PE on AMR in HL2, FarCry, Riddick, Doom3? Simple: Ultra's in OpenGL games and X850's in Direct3D games.. Am I wrong again?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Steffenm
I bet 2x6800Ultra perform better than one X800XT, but I can say for sure that 2x6800Ultra costs more than twice as much. So is it worth the money? No, only if you're the kind of person who wipe your ass with $1000 bills.

Rollo: Where did you get the number $300 million? I would like to see that article. Would be interesting reading (no sarcasm) But personally, I think nVidia payed ID Software quite a heavy sum of money too to get that extra notch of performance. And the rest of the games (FarCry, Riddick) simply performs better on 2x6800Ultra because it's a more powerful graphics-rig... and therefore the double price tag. Is this wrong? FarCry is after all a Direct3D game? Which would win when 2x6800Ultra competed against 2xX850XT PE on AMR in HL2, FarCry, Riddick, Doom3? Simple: Ultra's in OpenGL games and X850's in Direct3D games.. Am I wrong again?

It's hard to know which would win in an ATI SLI vs nVidia SLI shootout SteffenM.

ATI hasn't figured out how to do this, and the X850 does not suppport it, AFAIK.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Compddd
I got rid of my ultra because it blew up on its own after a month with zero overcloking. Did I mention it ran hot and loud as hell? This X850XT is a silent cool dream card.

Another "good" argument. Compddd got a defective one, therefore ATI is the choice, because he has never gotten a defective ATI card.

Makes sense......errrr.........

Obviously made sense to him. 6800U ran hot, loud and failed after one month of use. X850XT runs cool and quiet. He seems satisfied with the switch. And in the end, that's all that matters.

 

[Murd0ck]

inaxne,

"1. good point, but I didn't want to start an entirely new thread just because my card is agp. If no one wants to trade here, it's no big deal... i'll sell it on eBay. "

Just make a new thread, hell you might even get someone to trade and save some ebay fees. You would only be doing yourself a favor, IMO.

"2. Someone did already tell me, and I already told them I would go with an x800 XT PE... you must have missed my post."

Just make a new thread. I did not miss your post. I do apologise for haranguing you about asking to trade for a card that will not work in your pc.

Notice what I said here.."Do you realise that Hardocp shows a 13 fps difference in favor of the 6800U when it comes to minimum framerates? 33 for 6800U vs 20 for x800xtpe."

"3. I never said anything about who's opinion is right/wrong or worth considering, so I am lost on why you even stated that. I also chose not to have the ability for PCI-E becuase at this point in time, there is no noticeable difference in performance between agp/pci-E at this point in time. (If i'm mistaken, please prove me wrong on this... because that's the only thing I would be interesting in)."

AGP is being phased out (at this point in time) lol. You are smart enough to know that, yet to "bullheaded?" to accept it. Strange phenomenon, but not all that uncommon.

In all fairness though, the card you wanted (X850XTPE) was probably not even available when you chose AGP over PCI-e. I assume pci-e wasn't around when you bought your last mobo/pc either. (The system I am using to write this uses an intel 865perl).

X850XTPE is pci-e only. It outpreforms the X800XTPE( by very little) which is AGP .
There, you have been proven wrong. Now, go and buy a mobo that supports PCI-e and the card you really want (X850XTPE).

So, you see, Kevin, while the 2 interfaces might have the same theoretical throughput, one has compatibility with better performing hardware while the other does not. If You don't belive me then maybe you will 12 months from now, but then again you know that and you have your reasons for making your choices I'm sure.

Eh, how else can I can I say this? The writing is on the wall I guess. If you want the best options go with the newer technology (at least in this case). Even the AMR will use pci-e.


The forums link to HL2/Valve was a good read (depressing, but informative) thanks for posting it.

" I'm not sure when/where you got the idea that I was in favor of ATI/Nvidia when it comes to overall performance"
Really?
" Besides, SLI is a joke... not all games support as someone already stated, and anyone that is willing to spend close/around $1000 for video cards needs a serious reality check"

Your charged phrases indicate your bias.

Most people that go this route are buying 1 card now and plan to buy one later at a reduced cost. That is, if this price gouging ever stops..

I take home $942.00 after taxes on my weekly check and I am not at all wealthy, just single with a decent job. The price gouging on this hardware is still pissing me off though.


You are missing one of the key advantages to SLI which is the upgrade path; however, it is pointless to debate the premise of an "uprgade path" to someone who is buying agp cards and sees no point in pci-e "at this time".


"7. In regards to "I could care less", take a look... neither of us are wrong."
No, you have been misinformed.

LOL@learnenglishnow.com. Pfft hahaha!! Be careful out there on the net with your sources. Just because someone makes a website doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. He appears to be well educated; however, in this case he is wrong. Although people intend them to mean the same thing, they do not.

I suppose if you are a foriegner trying to learn english the two might be close enough.


This explains how the saying works. It even has a diagram, lol.

"I could care less" vs. "I couldn't care less"


Oh, and it's "whatever floats your boat" (here in the USA anyway)..lol.
(yes, that is how it's said, go compare the 2 phrases on google) Don't forget to use the ""

Anything worth doing is worth doing right, right?

"I'm not here to debate on who thinks what card is better, I could care less to be honest. Opinions are like.... you get the point =) "

Most everyone else is here to debate which card is better. Seeing as you don't own either one or can't use either one then you sir are in the wrong thread.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Compddd
I got rid of my ultra because it blew up on its own after a month with zero overcloking. Did I mention it ran hot and loud as hell? This X850XT is a silent cool dream card.

Another "good" argument. Compddd got a defective one, therefore ATI is the choice, because he has never gotten a defective ATI card.

Makes sense......errrr.........

Obviously made sense to him. 6800U ran hot, loud and failed after one month of use. X850XT runs cool and quiet. He seems satisfied with the switch. And in the end, that's all that matters.

Not all 6800U's run hot. In fact they draw only ~10-20 more watts than the X800's. Heat is not an issue, especially if you are referring to the later drivers in which the temperature is reported incorrectly.

Next, i see a whole slew of people that just come in say the name of the card and leave. Does anyone care enough to back up there argument.

Going with an X800XT over a 6800U is pointless. The X800XT barely wins (a few frames) in a lot of games. I can see maybe switching to an X850 but all of these cards are playable at pretty much any resolution and detail level; why trade and sacrifice features for 5fps when it doesn't even matter.

Murd0ck: AGP is not being phased out. People are pushing for PCI-E but AGP has a few years left in it. You will not, next year, find AGP cards availablity to be the equivelent of PCI graphics cards. They will be here for a while.

Also you should refer to my last post if you dont believe that SLI is worth anything. I dont know about you guys but 90% more performance (onec all the games are supported) sounds pretty good to me. $1000 is extremely exagerated figure. Yes, if you get 2x 6800U's expect to pay ~900. But the GT who is the exact same thing is ~350-400: SLI: 700-800, a far cry from 1000. Also you forget the option in which you buy one now, wait for prices to fall and buy another at much less.

-Kevin

 

[Murd0ck]

Originally posted by: Steffenm
I bet 2x6800Ultra perform better than one X800XT, but I can say for sure that 2x6800Ultra costs more than twice as much. So is it worth the money? No, only if you're the kind of person who wipe your ass with $1000 bills.

Rollo: Where did you get the number $300 million? I would like to see that article. Would be interesting reading (no sarcasm) But personally, I think nVidia payed ID Software quite a heavy sum of money too to get that extra notch of performance. And the rest of the games (FarCry, Riddick) simply performs better on 2x6800Ultra because it's a more powerful graphics-rig... and therefore the double price tag. Is this wrong? FarCry is after all a Direct3D game? Which would win when 2x6800Ultra competed against 2xX850XT PE on AMR in HL2, FarCry, Riddick, Doom3? Simple: Ultra's in OpenGL games and X850's in Direct3D games.. Am I wrong again?

Hey Steffenm,
"Which would win when 2x6800Ultra competed against 2xX850XT PE on AMR in HL2, FarCry, Riddick, Doom3? Simple: Ultra's in OpenGL games and X850's in Direct3D games.. Am I wrong again?[/quote]

Im curious as to why you propose this scenario? The nv40 is almost a year old and the R480 is only a couple months old?

Has nVidia announced that the 6800U pci-e will be its last production card?

A better scenario might be NV47 vs R520?


"nVidia NV47 is expected to be released in Spring 2005. NV47 is a significantly updated version of the GeForce 6800 series NV40 core and is expected to feature 24 pixel pipelines."

"ATI R520 is expected to be released in Spring 2005 on a 90nm process. The R520 core is expected to based on an entirely new core design featuring SM3 support along with some other innovations, including GDDR4 memory support for memory speeds of 1.2Ghz+. The architecture of the R520 is rumoured to contain 48 Arithmetic Logic Units (ALUs) that can be assigned to either pixel or vertex processing depending on load. Each ALU is expected to be able to perform one vector and one scalar operation per clock cycle, for a total of 96 shader operations per clock."

No mention of AMR yet..?

 

[Gamingphreek]

No Murd0ck you are misinformed.

NV47 was supposed to be a refresh for the NV40; however it just never came. Nvidia has confirmed that the new core will be a COMPLETELY new architecture, not related to anything ever before. There have also been reports, unconfirmed, that they have abandoned the NVxx naming scheme and the new architecture will be named G70. I however think that might be refering to the Gelato processor.

R5xx architecture is based purely on rumor. All we know about is that it will have a maximum of 512mb of texture memory, and it will be a completely different core as Nvidias. This generation of cards coming it supposed to be inredible according to ATI and Nvidia; like nothing we have seen before.

If Nvidia would release a refresh (kinda pointless right now) then that would be a fairer comparison, but the 6800U still competes VERY well with the X8xx's.

-Kevin

 

[Murd0ck]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Compddd
I got rid of my ultra because it blew up on its own after a month with zero overcloking. Did I mention it ran hot and loud as hell? This X850XT is a silent cool dream card.

Another "good" argument. Compddd got a defective one, therefore ATI is the choice, because he has never gotten a defective ATI card.

Makes sense......errrr.........

Obviously made sense to him. 6800U ran hot, loud and failed after one month of use. X850XT runs cool and quiet. He seems satisfied with the switch. And in the end, that's all that matters.

Not all 6800U's run hot. In fact they draw only ~10-20 more watts than the X800's. Heat is not an issue, especially if you are referring to the later drivers in which the temperature is reported incorrectly.

Next, i see a whole slew of people that just come in say the name of the card and leave. Does anyone care enough to back up there argument.

Going with an X800XT over a 6800U is pointless. The X800XT barely wins (a few frames) in a lot of games. I can see maybe switching to an X850 but all of these cards are playable at pretty much any resolution and detail level; why trade and sacrifice features for 5fps when it doesn't even matter.

Murd0ck: AGP is not being phased out. People are pushing for PCI-E but AGP has a few years left in it. You will not, next year, find AGP cards availablity to be the equivelent of PCI graphics cards. They will be here for a while.

Also you should refer to my last post if you dont believe that SLI is worth anything. I dont know about you guys but 90% more performance (onec all the games are supported) sounds pretty good to me. $1000 is extremely exagerated figure. Yes, if you get 2x 6800U's expect to pay ~900. But the GT who is the exact same thing is ~350-400: SLI: 700-800, a far cry from 1000. Also you forget the option in which you buy one now, wait for prices to fall and buy another at much less.

-Kevin

"Murd0ck: AGP is not being phased out. People are pushing for PCI-E but AGP has a few years left in it. You will not, next year, find AGP cards availablity to be the equivelent of PCI graphics cards. They will be here for a while."- Huh?

I don't see why any high end hardware would favor AGP 1 year from now. Can you explain what you mean?

IMO pci-e has too much upside going for it and things are really going to take off in the next couple years with multiple CPU/GPU chipsets.

"PCI Express, formally 3GIO and before that Arapahoe, is will be introduced in various chipsets - notably Intel's - in June. PCI Express is a Serial I/O point-to-point interconnect standard consisting of a number of 'lanes', each of which provides a bandwidth of 2.5Gbits/s (0.31GB/s). If more than one lane is present (i.e. 2x and above) the data stream is multiplexed across all the available lanes. PCI Express is fully scalable, with plans to produce 16x (5GB/s) and even 32x (10GB/s). PCI Express is expected to be used for the connection between the North and South Bridge chips, replace AGP and be a interconnection standard between the South Bridge and expansion devices. The most common devices will be 1x and 16x, with 1x busses being used for low bandwidth peripherals such as network cards, sound cards etc and 16x devices being used for high bandwidth devices such as graphics cards. A 1x card will have a 10W power limit, 8x and 16x cards can accept up to 40W and a 32x card can carry up to 100W (and will therefore replace AGP Pro). Initially we are expected to see a combination of standard PCI and PCI Express slots, on motherboards. A standard configuration would be a 16x slot, a 1x slot and a number of standard PCI slots. PCI Express devices also have the advantage of being hot-swappable, and external PCI Express ports will allow the connection of high-speed external peripherals such as external IDE/SCSI controllers or network cards. The "Big Water" form factor/platform standard will include a modular architecture, allowing PCI Express cards to be inserted in a similar way to Game Console cards."

I guess only time (and consumer demand) will tell..

I was being scarcastic about the SLI being "hype"

 

[Murd0ck]

Ok, mind posting some sources/roadmaps?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Murd0ck
Ok, mind posting some sources/roadmaps?

There aren't any. However just look at ISA slots. When PCI came out they were around for more than 5 years afterwards and they actually had a significant benefit.

Right now there is only theoretical positive factors. Other than that there is virtually no difference.

-Kevin

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Going with an X800XT over a 6800U is pointless. The X800XT barely wins (a few frames) in a lot of games. I can see maybe switching to an X850 but all of these cards are playable at pretty much any resolution and detail level; why trade and sacrifice features for 5fps when it doesn't even matter.

Perhaps he wanted a fast card that runs cooler and quieter than his failed 6800U. Isn't that what he got?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Cooler, in most cases yes, however you cannot accurately say cooler. Less power hungry, yes, however to run cooler all you have to do is stick a gigantic HS on it.

As for quieter that is the same way. Noise on video cards with a few exceptions is not an issue. Most manf (excluding Asus, Leadtek, MSI, Gainward, and a few others) use the reference heatsink fan. This applies for both ATI and Nvidia cards.

As for his failed card you cannot hold that against anyone. There are bad cards, there is nothing we will ever be able to do about this.

-Kevin

 

[Creig]

So he got a card that generally runs a few frames faster than his old card and does it cooler while consuming less power. What's so bad about that?