It's not a fantasy I'm living it.
It bothers me that these people exist on the planet and think they are being reasonable and tempered. I just had to ask why.
Like I said, enjoy your fantasy. From what I've seen of, heard of and read about the UK it's definitely better than most places on this planet, but I still prefer it across the pond.
What are you fighting for?
And I, and the rest of humanity feel uncomfortable knowing that there are people out there carrying guns so that they can defend themselves if provoked. If I get in a fight with someone I like knowing that he wont whip out a gun. You sir are the guy that you want to defend yourself against. Until america realises that their solution to this issue is the problem that causes it nothings going to happen.
And I, and the rest of humanity feel uncomfortable knowing that there are people out there carrying guns so that they can defend themselves if provoked. If I get in a fight with someone I like knowing that he wont whip out a gun. You sir are the guy that you want to defend yourself against. Until america realises that their solution to this issue is the problem that causes it nothings going to happen.
Until the constitution is changed Americans have the right to own and bear arms. We don't care what a Limey thinks about the situation, we broke free from the Monarchy long ago.
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Proven eh? How is the murder rate (by gun) in Washington DC and Chicago? Damn, they are some of the highest in the country? How could that be though, guns are all but illegal there????
How about Mexico where guns are illegal?
Next argument.
Perhaps, but me having a gun on me makes me and my family safer. How is this for a statistic, you are more likely to get wrongfully/accidentally shot by a police officer than you are by a person legally carrying a concealed weapon. Here is another one, people who legally carry concealed weapons statistically NEVER commit gun crimes and almost never (within the margin of error) commit ANY serious crime. How ya like those statistics?
Tiny island versus big ass wide open country with more miles (or KM for you Brits) of land boarders than you guys have in total boarders. Oh yeah, one of those happens to be a shithole 3rd world country.
And I, and the rest of humanity feel uncomfortable knowing that there are people out there carrying guns so that they can defend themselves if provoked. If I get in a fight with someone I like knowing that he wont whip out a gun. You sir are the guy that you want to defend yourself against. Until america realises that their solution to this issue is the problem that causes it nothings going to happen.
but but but you like statistics a minute ago!!!
People who legally carry concealed weapons statistically NEVER commit gun crimes. I am not sure if there is a statistically safer group of people to be around other than maybe those guys that shun modern technology (someone help me out with the name).
So you admit to going around provoking people? You like to be able to provoke people with less consequence? That just makes you an immature asshole.
Never mind the fact that he could still whip out a knife, in which case you're equally fucked.
And believe it or not, the "wild west gun fights" that the left screams will happen every time gun rights are expanded... yeah they haven't happened. Ever. Things continue as they always have, and I don't know where you're getting your information from but outside of some very rare cases someone getting shot over an argument is a rare occurrence.
Until the constitution is changed Americans have the right to own and bear arms. We don't care what a Limey thinks about the situation, we broke free from the Monarchy long ago.
/discussion
I don't go around provoking people.
I'd rather someone was carrying a knife than a gun
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In a h2h fight? Well that sure shows your ignorance. Having had some training if I was in a h2h fight I'd take a decent knife over a gun any day.
Oh, and once again I'll mention the Chinese guy who killed 8 school kids with a knife, and wounded several more. That's more than the shooter at Arizona, despite his "insane" semi-automatic handgun and "crazy" 30 round mags.
OK Guys, I think I'm done with this argument for today, it's late I've got stuff to do I will leave you with this:
If guns are illegal less people will own them. Therefore fewer people will get shot, I'm not sure what's wrong with this logic for you. It has been proven that this is the case. Obviously not in the US because guns are legal in the US, so in the UK, a similar western country.
In any event it has become apparent that you guys have no confidence in your society to keep you safe, so you feel like you need to lock yourself in a small room carrying a shotgun.
Enjoy your selves. I just take comfort in the fact that If I go out tonight at 3 am, I won't (statistically) get shot. 'Night.
OK.
I'd rather get in a fight with a guy holding a knife than a gun, most people would.
OK.
I'd rather get in a fight with a guy holding a knife than a gun, most people would.
Its the same logic that states if drugs are illegal less people will use them. That has been proven false. Furthermore, it is the illegal use of firearms that is the issue and its already illegal. The thugs won't care if they are breaking 4 laws instead of 3 when they rape your wife or kill you for your wallet.
IF we completely locked down our boarders (fat fucking chance) AND vastly increased the search of cargo coming into the country (fat fucking chance) we would still have the untold millions of guns already on the street. It would take over 50 years to even think about getting rid of guns AFTER the above conditions are met.
I highly suggest you visit our nations capital. Please tell me when you are going and I will arrange a car to drop you off at the start of a walking tour. Don't worry, guns are illegal in DC so you have nothing to fear and it will be great exercise while you take in the sights.
Then most people are stupid and ignorant. You want some fun? Find a friend and give him a sharpie. Wear a shirt you don't care about. Try to get the sharpie out of his hand before he can mark something vital. The amount of black lines you have are indicative of the wounds you would receive from a 1" knife. Let alone something bigger.
With a gun, as soon as you grab it and are out of the bullet's flight path you are much safer. the only reason you would prefer to fight a knife is because you've seen too many movies.
Then most people are stupid and ignorant. You want some fun? Find a friend and give him a sharpie. Wear a shirt you don't care about. Try to get the sharpie out of his hand before he can mark something vital. The amount of black lines you have are indicative of the wounds you would receive from a 1" knife. Let alone something bigger.
With a gun, as soon as you grab it and are out of the bullet's flight path you are much safer. the only reason you would prefer to fight a knife is because you've seen too many movies.
I'd rather have my gun in my hand when I got into a fight with a guy holding a knife, most people would.
I don't go around provoking people.
I'd rather someone was carrying a knife than a gun
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I went to Washington DC last year.
50 Years well spent.
Step 6 feet back from the person then do it again.
So would any psychopath. (not calling you a pshychopath) just saying that people who want to kill someone would rather have a gun than a knife generally.
You don't? I think your behavior in this thread contradicts that. You don't listen and you consistently bring up data that pertains to your little island, not a geographically massive country. Americans covet the right to own guns and we view it as an essential freedom. It does NOT lead to more gun crimes. People don't pull guns out over stupid shit, nor do most people carry their guns. It's mostly home protection, hunting or range shooting.
Why are you trolling? Why do you care so much? Should I go on an English message board and troll about universal dental care?
Step 6 feet back from the person then do it again.
So would any psychopath. (not calling you a pshychopath) just saying that people who want to kill someone would rather have a gun than a knife generally.
Lol yeah, show me a confrontation where a gun owner stepped 6' back and shot someone over a verbal argument. I'm waiting.
And yes, if someone breaks into my house with a knife, I have the right to shoot them. What would you do in that situation? Cower in room with your cell phone and hope he can't break though in the minutes it would take for the cops to arrive? Remember he has the capability to break into your place.
Hey America, British != English. I'm English, from England.
OK so If you can point me at some statistics that show what all of america is like without guns then I'll use those, in the mean time I use what I've got.