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HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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You just got yourself killed. A knife is extremely deadly at 6 feet.

That's not a knife it's a sword, unless your talking about someone with an amazing throwing arm in which case I roll my eyes at you.



So go fuck with the psychopaths and leave us law abiding citizens the hell alone.

And I doubt a psychopath would say "damn, can't get a gun so I guess I am not going to do crazy shit and try to kill people". They will simply find other means that are just as effective.

It works over here, we have a lot less deaths than you do
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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I'd stab them. Or hit them with a baseball bat, or who knows, shoot them with my shotgun?

Yes, with no other option you'd engage an armed robber in h2h. Yeah, have fun with that. I'd rather shoot them from a safe distance.

And you own a shotgun? Wow then you are for people to own guns and use them in self defense. So WhyTF are you in favor of someone taking that gun away from you?
 

KlokWyze

Diamond Member
Sep 7, 2006
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OK so If you can point me at some statistics that show what all of america is like without guns then I'll use those, in the mean time I use what I've got.



Yes you should! (it's not trolling) and just because this forum is mainly full of americans doesn't mean you own it, I need to ask these questions to try and understand the mentality of the idea "I have the RIGHT to own a gun"

Universal dental/ health care is a massive improvement on your system, where it costs $200 to get in an ambulance.

You are a troll in denial then. I can tell you simply don't understand Americans. The right to bear arms has been such a lightning rod that many of us feel the need to fight for it. A British guy trolling me just makes me WANT to go out and buy a Sig Sauer 45 RIGHT NOW. I don't even own a gun!

Here's a tip. Before you start arguments with people you don't know about things you don't understand. Stop.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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Yes, with no other option you'd engage an armed robber in h2h. Yeah, have fun with that. I'd rather shoot them from a safe distance.

And you own a shotgun? Wow then you are for people to own guns and use them in self defense. So WhyTF are you in favor of someone taking that gun away from you?

Nah, I own a shotgun but no ammo, no point if need be I'd just point it at someone and they'd fuck off.

I've got enough in my house to defend my self if need be. I'd be fine. Unless they had a gun then I'd be fucked, but luckily guns are illegal over here and very few people have them
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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That's not a knife it's a sword, unless your talking about someone with an amazing throwing arm in which case I roll my eyes at you.





It works over here, we have a lot less deaths than you do

It's called movement genius. Why do armchair warriors always assume everyone's standing still in a fight? I can cross 6 feet from a dead stop in less than a second. Anyone not morbidly obese can.

And finally a non-generalization. It works over there. Not over here.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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You are a troll in denial then. I can tell you simply don't understand Americans. The right to bear arms has been such a lightning rod that many of us feel the need to fight for it. A British guy trolling me just makes me WANT to go out and buy a Sig Sauer 45 RIGHT NOW. I don't even own a gun!

I don't understand americans, which is why I ask.

P.S. please read my sig.

Here's a tip. Before you start arguments with people you don't know about things you don't understand. Stop.

Take your own advice
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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It's called movement genius. Why do armchair warriors always assume everyone's standing still in a fight? I can cross 6 feet from a dead stop in less than a second. Anyone not morbidly obese can.

And finally a non-generalization. It works over there. Not over here.

In which case I can move six feet back in a second as well, it's called fight of flight, I'd rather run for it than stand and kill someone, but that's just me.

You've never tried it over there
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Nah, I own a shotgun but no ammo, no point if need be I'd just point it at someone and they'd fuck off.

I've got enough in my house to defend my self if need be. I'd be fine. Unless they had a gun then I'd be fucked, but luckily guns are illegal over here and very few people have them

Maybe maybe not. What if they're high and don't give a fuck?

And if you think you'd be fine h2h going against an armed assailant, I refer you to my previously mentioned sharpie drill. You wouldn't be fine, you'd be injured with a good chance of getting dead. Meanwhile I'll be several feet away having protected my family without a scratch.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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In which case I can move six feet back in a second as well, it's called fight of flight, I'd rather run for it than stand and kill someone, but that's just me.

You've never tried it over there

You have zero fighting experience. You never, NEVER move straight backward if you can avoid it. It puts you off balance and vulnerable. More over try shooting accurately while doing so under the pressure of a guy with a knife charging you,

Go get some training and education so you can start making intelligent comments.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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No more arguments. If your comparing the power of one of the biggest super-powers on the planet to mexico then there's no arguing with you.

Nice way of skipping over the first comparison. Please tell me why Washington DC has such a high gun crime rate when guns are all but illegal there? I would really like to hear your answer on this one but I doubt I will because you don't have one.


If guns were illegal then you wouldn't get shot by either.
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If only drugs were illegal we wouldn't have these damned drug wars either... Your argument has been debunked, please come up with something new.

Please don't call me a brit. Check my sig.

What the hell do I call you then? I thought England was part of the UK and we friggen suck at geography over here so everyone in the UK is a Brit. Hell, most of our people can't show you where we are currently fighting our two wars on a map, you should feel lucky we don't get you guys mixed up with Australia.

How about Bastard (with a posh British accent)?
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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You have zero fighting experience. You never, NEVER move straight backward if you can avoid it. It puts you off balance and vulnerable. More over try shooting accurately while doing so under the pressure of a guy with a knife charging you,

Go get some training and education so you can start making intelligent comments.

Oh this is getting stupid. It's so unlikely I'll ever need to know this crap. Goodnight. Enjoy your guns crazy people.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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What the hell do I call you then? I thought England was part of the UK and we friggen suck at geography over here so everyone in the UK is a Brit. Hell, most of our people can't show you where we are currently fighting our two wars on a map, you should feel lucky we don't get you guys mixed up with Australia.

How about Bastard (with a posh English accent)?
ftfy.

I'm English.
From England.
English.
From England.
Like Scottish People are from Scotland
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Oh this is getting stupid. It's so unlikely I'll ever need to know this crap. Goodnight. Enjoy your guns crazy people.

Yes, having a workout that has the side effect of enabling me to defend myself isn't beneficial, it's crazy.

It's Krav Maga, if you're curious.
 

KlokWyze

Diamond Member
Sep 7, 2006
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I don't understand americans, which is why I ask.

P.S. please read my sig.

Take your own advice

Look, English chap. If you want to understand "Americans", try not come accross as an asshat. You are trying to change an entrenched ideal using weak arguments.

Should I move to Afghanistan, arrogantly proselytizing Muslims there to denounce Allah, because I think its irrational to worship that way?

Your actions and your stated purpose don't match up. Stop and think before you "try to understand", because your attempts are pretty damned weak. :thumbsdown:
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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In which case I can move six feet back in a second as well, it's called fight of flight, I'd rather run for it than stand and kill someone, but that's just me.

You've never tried it over there

You are moving backwards, he is attacking moving forward. You are off balance, he is not. You can not see where you are going, he can (or you have to take your eyes off of the attacker). He will win every single time. You just got yourself killed again.

Keep trying, you might get it right eventually. It isn't necessarily a bad thing to know what you should do before you are in a situation like that. However, if he is armed and you aren't you are already at a severe disadvantage. Hopefully the police are waiting right outside your door for you to call.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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Yes, having a workout that has the side effect of enabling me to defend myself isn't beneficial, it's crazy.

It's Krav Maga, if you're curious.

I'm not curious and I don't know what that is.

Work outs are great, you giving me self defence training via a tech forum is crazy.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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Look, English chap. If you want to understand "Americans", try not come accross as an asshat. You are trying to change an entrenched ideal using weak arguments.

Should I move to Afghanistan, arrogantly proselytizing Muslims there to denounce Allah, because I think its irrational to worship that way?

Your actions and your stated purpose don't match up. Stop and think before you "try to understand", because your attempts are pretty damned weak. :thumbsdown:

I'm not trying to change your minds I'm trying to understand, and a debate is the way to do that.

You are moving backwards, he is attacking moving forward. You are off balance, he is not. You can not see where you are going, he can (or you have to take your eyes off of the attacker). He will win every single time. You just got yourself killed again.

Keep trying, you might get it right eventually. It isn't necessarily a bad thing to know what you should do before you are in a situation like that. However, if he is armed and you aren't you are already at a severe disadvantage. Hopefully the police are waiting right outside your door for you to call.

I don't care about self defence training, read above.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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I'm not curious and I don't know what that is.

Work outs are great, you giving me self defence training via a tech forum is crazy.

It's the combat form used by the Israeli military.

I wasn't giving you training, I was pointing out how stupid your arm-chairing was and why but hey, if you provoke someone into attacking you with a knife maybe it'll help a little.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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Are you a citizen of the UK?

I am! Buuuuut..

Americans call Irish people Irish, they call Scottish people scots, but for some unknown reason they call English people Brits.

All above are british. Either call us all that or differentiate.

British != English
European != German
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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It's the combat form used by the Israeli military.

I wasn't giving you training, I was pointing out how stupid your arm-chairing was and why but hey, if you provoke someone into attacking you with a knife maybe it'll help a little.

:thumbsup:
 
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