Exactly! thank you,
Not everyone from Great Britian is English.
We are English, Scottish and from Northern Ireland.
I am! Buuuuut..
Americans call Irish people Irish, they call Scottish people scots, but for some unknown reason they call English people Brits.
All above are british. Either call us all that or differentiate.
British != English
European != German
If it makes you feel any better I call all of yall Brits.
Just for my knowledge, whats the difference between a British bastard and an English bastard?
Nah, I own a shotgun but no ammo, no point if need be I'd just point it at someone and they'd fuck off.
I've got enough in my house to defend my self if need be. I'd be fine. Unless they had a gun then I'd be fucked, but luckily guns are illegal over here and very few people have them
One is a general term for any bastard that lives in Great Britain, the other is a bastard that lives in England.
I'm the latter.
Yet you seem to have gotten your hands on one. BTW, pointing an unloaded weapon at an attacker is good way to get dead AND give the bad guy another gun. I bet dollars to doughnuts that he will have ammo for his gun/weapon.
You are better off holding it from the other end and using it as a club.
So lets recap:
You know nothing at all about American culture and heritage, especially concerning gun rights.
You know nothing at all about how guns work, how decent people use them, how they are used in defense, etc...
And you know nothing at all about how to defend yourself and your family from an attacker other than curling up into the fetal position and yelling police.
Yet here you are debating the merits of gun ownership in the United States.
English bastard (with a posh British accent... sorry, I love Eddie Izzard) just doesn't have a good ring to it though.
They gotta call yall something other than "English".
The British (also known as Britons, informally Brits, or archaically Britishers) are citizens of the United Kingdom, of the Isle of Man, one of the Channel Islands, or of one of the British overseas territories, and their descendants. British nationality law governs modern British citizenship and nationality, which are acquired, for instance, by birth in the UK or by descent from British nationals. When used in a historical context, the term british people refers to the ancient Britons, the indigenous inhabitants of Great Britain south of the Forth.
Exactly thank you. Everyone from Great Briton is british, not just English people
informally Brits
Please note
More good info on alternate names for the British.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_names_for_the_British
What do you say to the person above that said people should be required to take classes?
I think the classes referred to would train people in the safe and responsible use and storage of firearms. And as an adjunct, I think it would be VERY useful to have required courses in conflict resolution and accurate assessment of threats.
I doubt very much that there would be required courses in rapid magazine replacement.
I don't doubt that's the case. And honestly, I don't feel that high-capacity magazines are uniquely useful or necessary, but just because you might think no one *needs* a product is not reason to make it unavailable for those who want them. Large capacity magazines are no more dangerous than a large car engine in a car; would you ban sports cars because a reckless driver could run over people faster in one than in a Yugo? Banning an item for its potential misuse is stupid - it's akin to banning large capacity hard drives because a pedophile could store more kiddie porn on it.
It sure doesn't sound like it from some of your replies.1) I know enough, I know how it all happened but not why it's still going on.
2) I know a lot about how to defend myself, my family is well taken care of.
3) Yep
4) I own a shotgun, when someone comes in my house with a crow bar i'm sorted, the chances of someone coming into my house with a loaded gun are so remote it's not worth worrying about.
You bet "dollars to doughnuts...?" What ever the fuck that means.
that someone will come in my house with a loaded gun, you have no idea how unlikely that is in the UK, it's more likely that he will come in my house with a horse.
Jesus man! I am English, with an English accent, there's no such thing as a british accent as depending on where you are from in great Britain you will have a different accent. (Scottish, irish, welsh, english...)
Exactly thank you. Everyone from Great Briton is british, not just English people
The British (also known as Britons, informally Brits, or archaically Britishers) are citizens of the United Kingdom
I specifically mentioned benefit versus loss in my post. I can see a few benefits of much-larger-than-necessary engines for cars. For example, attracting girls (and however shallow that may seem to you, it's real). And the potential "loss" associated with very large engines isn't much greater than the potential loss associated with moderate-sized engines: I don't see a major distinction between being able to drive at 180 mph with one car versus 130 mph with another.
But what's the benefit of a large-capacity magazine? Being a more lethal/efficient warrior in an imagined anarchic future? And the loss? Well, we've seen it: Crazies can kill a lot more innocents faster with 30-bullet magazines than with 10-bullet magazines. So the benefit versus loss equation just doesn't justify large-capacity magazines in my mind.
Now I am really confused. Does that mean your a Brit?
You already said you are a citizen of the UK. I am starting to think that you are just fucking with our heads.
Wow, an argument using actual logic that doesn't involve vague stats or "I don't think you need it and it scares me". I could get used to this. There is a flaw in your logic though.
I know I'm sounding like a broken record at this point, but a crazy in China killed 8 and wounded 6 with a knife, more kills than the Arizona shooter. If 30 round mags make it so easy to kill people, how can this be?
Now you can make the argument of the psychological factor involved in knifing someone vs shooting them, but anyone crazy enough to go on a killing spree is already beyond that point of deterrence IMO.
At most the argument for taking them away, IMO, is that we'd be taking away one method for crazies to go ape-shit. But as I and history have pointed out there are plenty of other, just as if not more lethal ways that no one seems to care about right now.
On a related note, McCarthy's fucking up with going for a 10 round mag limit. A lot of people out there own autos with between 10-20 rounds. It would criminalize these people and looks like she's just trying to smuggle in her renewed assault weapons ban on the heels of a crisis. If she had gone for 20 round limits maybe she would have gotten it.
I don't think the fact that there are documented cases where a person armed with merely a knife (or any other "less efficient" weapon) was able to kill or wound multiple individuals is a very good argument against banning "more efficient" weapons. I think we all would agree it's a lot easier to kill/injure many, many people with a handgun having a 30-bullet magazine than with a knife.
Furthermore, large knives have many, many beneficial uses, and weighing those benefits against the extremely rare incidents where a knife was used to perpetrate a large mass murder leaves no doubt that large knives ought to remain legal.
I don't think anyone can convincingly argue that restricting the capacity of magazines to 10 or even 15 is unreasonable. As to those with higher-capacity magazines, a reasonable time limit (two years, say) could be implemented during which the higher-capacity magazines could either be retrofit with limiters OR traded in for magazines that comply with the new law.
GUYS! Seriously.
neckarb is trolling. Stop responding to him. Its the same arguments that come from every single Englishman whenever this issue is brought up. We've been through it all a hundred times before and it never goes anywhere. In fact the mods should automatically lock any gun thread that ever comes up in P&N from this day on.