Wouldn't it be hilarious...

[HAL9000]

GUYS! Seriously.

neckarb is offering a different opinion. Stop responding to him. Its the same arguments that come from every single Englishman whenever this issue is brought up. We've been through it all a hundred times before and it never goes anywhere. In fact the mods should automatically lock any gun thread that ever comes up in P&N from this day on.

This.

 

[Darwin333]

Wow, an argument using actual logic that doesn't involve vague stats or "I don't think you need it and it scares me". I could get used to this. There is a flaw in your logic though.

I know I'm sounding like a broken record at this point, but a crazy in China killed 8 and wounded 6 with a knife, more kills than the Arizona shooter. If 30 round mags make it so easy to kill people, how can this be?

Now you can make the argument of the psychological factor involved in knifing someone vs shooting them, but anyone crazy enough to go on a killing spree is already beyond that point of deterrence IMO.

At most the argument for taking them away, IMO, is that we'd be taking away one method for crazies to go ape-shit. But as I and history have pointed out there are plenty of other, just as if not more lethal ways that no one seems to care about right now.

On a related note, McCarthy's fucking up with going for a 10 round mag limit. A lot of people out there own autos with between 10-20 rounds. It would criminalize these people and looks like she's just trying to smuggle in her renewed assault weapons ban on the heels of a crisis. If she had gone for 20 round limits maybe she would have gotten it.

Any ban that gets passed will have a grandfather clause in it. That means we have only raised the price of those ebul 30 round cheap junk aftermarket magazines not actually gotten rid of them. You could buy a pre-ban AK47 (semi-auto) during the AWB any day of the week. The difference between then and now is only the cost of the weapon. Batshit crazy fuckers probably don't care if a magazine is $15 bucks or $60.

I do agree with the rest of your post though. I am not sure if I could even find 10 round magazines for either of my pistols (both .40 caliber). They might exist but I sure haven't seen one. Besides a few friends who own 1911s and subcompacts, I doubt I know anyone who currently owns 10 round mags. Both of my .40s came with 16 round standard magazines, most people that have purchased a semi-automatic pistol in the last few years own stock magazines larger than 10 rounds. They simply don't have the political stroke to outright ban magazines that most handgun owners already own.